Good record might get Gardiner off!

JABBER · Post: # 749539Post **JABBER** » Mon 01 Jun 2009 12:05pm

No reports in the last 3 Years might see gardi get of
It looked very bad A free kick for a high tackle Jamer did not come of the ground injured and played the rest of the game alright.
If it was nasty the umpire would have reportrd him on the spot.
you must judge on normal speed and not slow motion speed

saint vince · Mon 01 Jun 2009 12:07pm

Not sure how many points this equates to someone may know but I think it is
1. In Play
2. Low impact
3. reckless
4. Head high.

I think maybe reprimand or one week.

Animal Enclosure · Mon 01 Jun 2009 12:20pm

In play
High Impact
reckless
High

Without knowing the weighting for each I'd say he'd get 3 weeks & reduce it to 2 weeks with a guilty plea.

A stupid act, luckily he hit Jamar in the back of the head.

Thinline · Post: # 749563Post **Thinline** » Mon 01 Jun 2009 12:55pm

Got quite a good look at it up close. He had time to NOT do it once he'd decided to forge ahead (ie could easily have pulled out)...Was pretty dumb, but he ain't the first.

Week, for mine. Two tops.

McEvoy gets a run.

PJ · Post: # 749568Post PJ » Mon 01 Jun 2009 1:11pm

Just a question about Jamar - was he running at Gardner to put the bump on? Could Gardner argue he was putting up his forearm to protect himself? I've heard weaker arguments!

Eastern · Post: # 749581Post **Eastern** » Mon 01 Jun 2009 1:26pm

Animal Enclosure wrote:In play
High Impact
reckless
High

Without knowing the weighting for each I'd say he'd get 3 weeks & reduce it to 2 weeks with a guilty plea.

A stupid act, luckily he hit Jamar in the back of the head.

To get High Impact on a High Contact, you would need to KO the guy. That didn't hapen. Jamar didn't even remonstrate !!

bigcarl · Post: # 749582Post **bigcarl** » Mon 01 Jun 2009 1:26pm

he'll get a week. it looked bad and was a dumb act.

BringBackMadDog · Mon 01 Jun 2009 1:28pm

High Impact

Jamar didnt even go to ground

St Chris · Post: # 749596Post **St Chris** » Mon 01 Jun 2009 1:46pm

Very very similar to an incident between Sam Mitchell and Bernie Vince (i think???) yesterday. Vince ran past, Mitchell stuck out a chicken wing and made contact with his elbow to vince's head. Vince went down, but got up and carried on without any problems.

Will be very interesting to see how the MRP view each case....

Life Long Saint · Mon 01 Jun 2009 1:55pm

No such thing as "in play" anymore (not since the Hall - Maguire debacle).

Factors are:
Conduct (Intentional, Reckless, Negligent)
Imact (Severe, High, Medium, Low)
Contact (High/Groin, Body)

Gardiner will be assessed, IMO, as Reckless conduct, Low impact, High contact resulting in a level 2 offence. The charge will be striking and carries 125 points. With a good record he have the points reduced to 93.75 and to 65 with a guilty plea.

In short, he will be charged and reprimaned.

If the impact is deemed as medium then he will earn 225 points and a good record and early plea will see him get a week off.

Thinline · Post: # 749604Post **Thinline** » Mon 01 Jun 2009 2:16pm

St Chris wrote:Very very similar to an incident between Sam Mitchell and Bernie Vince (i think???) yesterday. Vince ran past, Mitchell stuck out a chicken wing and made contact with his elbow to vince's head. Vince went down, but got up and carried on without any problems.

Will be very interesting to see how the MRP view each case....

Unlike Altar Boy Mitchell to snipe like that...

Not...

St Chris · Post: # 749608Post **St Chris** » Mon 01 Jun 2009 2:28pm

Thinline wrote:
St Chris wrote:Very very similar to an incident between Sam Mitchell and Bernie Vince (i think???) yesterday. Vince ran past, Mitchell stuck out a chicken wing and made contact with his elbow to vince's head. Vince went down, but got up and carried on without any problems.

Will be very interesting to see how the MRP view each case....
Unlike Altar Boy Mitchell to snipe like that...

Not...

In Mitchell's defence, he did seem pretty surprised that he made contact. I think it was just one of those things to put a more effective shepherd in and make his opponent run around rather than taking the straight line. But i agree - hardly a angel is Sam. I think he has 90-odd points still hanging on his head.

starsign · Post: # 749666Post **starsign** » Mon 01 Jun 2009 5:28pm

Life Long Saint wrote:No such thing as "in play" anymore (not since the Hall - Maguire debacle).

Factors are:
Conduct (Intentional, Reckless, Negligent)
Imact (Severe, High, Medium, Low)
Contact (High/Groin, Body)

Gardiner will be assessed, IMO, as Reckless conduct, Low impact, High contact resulting in a level 2 offence. The charge will be striking and carries 125 points. With a good record he have the points reduced to 93.75 and to 65 with a guilty plea.

In short, he will be charged and reprimaned.

If the impact is deemed as medium then he will earn 225 points and a good record and early plea will see him get a week off.

excellent post ...thanks heaps, and I hope your initial judgement is correct