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The Collingwood/MCG myth?

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They've only won 54% of their home games this year...

Their strength is their away form - 81% success rate.


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Didn't help them in last years final, or the two Grand Finals against Lions.


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Nice stat, Thinline....now I'm even more excited. :D :D


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Re: The Collingwood/MCG myth?

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Thinline wrote:They've only won 54% of their home games this year...

Their strength is their away form - 81% success rate.
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You are far too sensible and humble to to be a Pies supporter, JPBFG.
Stop wrestling with you secret desires and join us on the path to The Holy Grail. :D :wink:


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BakesFan wrote:You are far too sensible and humble to to be a Pies supporter, JPBFG.
Stop wrestling with you secret desires and join us on the path to The Holy Grail. :D :wink:
:lol: ok, I'll give it some thought.

Nice to be back......been lurking but with the success u guys have been having thought I would let u enjoy and soak it up without me annoying u all...... :D


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Thinline wrote:They've only won 54% of their home games this year...

Their strength is their away form - 81% success rate.
Intersting, they play a lot at the G, thats a poor record, while we have a 100% record at the G this year :wink:


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I think there is something wrong with the stats.

Collingwood have played 14 games at the MCG this year, 9 "Home" games and 5 "Away" games. They won 7 of their 9 (78%) and 3 of their 5 (60%), or 10 from 14 (71%). Granted, because they played two "home" games at Docklands and lost both, their home record looks like 7 from 11 or 64%. They won 5 of their "true" 8 Away games (63%). All of which seems to prove little, except that we would have been better off playing them at Docklands. But since they haven't beaten us in a final for 43 years, we shouldn't worry stratospherically.


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To be honest Perfectionist I took them from The Age preview and didn't check them.

I thought they looked a little skewy, but thought I'd post anyway.


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What's St. Kilda's win/loss record at the G in September since 04?


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Johnny Utah wrote:What's St. Kilda's win/loss record at the G in September since 04?
What's Collingwood's record like against St.Kilda in finals since the middle of September in 1966?


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kosifantutti23 wrote: What's Collingwood's record like against St.Kilda in finals since the middle of September in 1966?
1/2.

Your turn.

What is St. Kilda's winning % at the MCG in Finals since 2004?


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Johnny Utah wrote:What's St. Kilda's win/loss record at the G in September since 04?
Ah, geez! 13 wins and 8 losses or 62%! Next!
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who give a flog that was then this is now

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kosifantutti23 wrote:
Johnny Utah wrote:What's St. Kilda's win/loss record at the G in September since 04?
What's Collingwood's record like against St.Kilda in finals since the middle of September in 1966?
Good question. When did they last beat us in a final?


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What's Collingwoods win/los record in grand finals at the MCG since the VFL was formed? :twisted: :lol:


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perfectionist wrote:Ah, geez! 13 wins and 8 losses or 62%!
04 - 1 win.
05 - 0 wins from 1.
06 - 0 wins from 1.
08 - 1 win from 3.

2 from 6. 33%.


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Johnny Utah wrote:
kosifantutti23 wrote: What's Collingwood's record like against St.Kilda in finals since the middle of September in 1966?
1/2.

Your turn.
1966 Grand Final won by St Kilda
1992 Elimination final won by St Kilda
2008 Semi Final won by St Kilda

By my count that is 0/3

But you like making stuff up to support your argument

Jim O'Dea in the Hall of Fame?

http://www.saints.com.au/players/tabid/ ... fault.aspx


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Post: # 810493Post satchmo »

kosifantutti23 wrote:
Johnny Utah wrote:
kosifantutti23 wrote: What's Collingwood's record like against St.Kilda in finals since the middle of September in 1966?
1/2.

Your turn.
1966 Grand Final won by St Kilda
1992 Elimination final won by St Kilda
2008 Semi Final won by St Kilda

By my count that is 0/3

But you like making stuff up to support your argument

Jim O'Dea in the Hall of Fame?

http://www.saints.com.au/players/tabid/ ... fault.aspx
Myth busted. Fraud outed. Next! :D


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Johnny Utah wrote:
perfectionist wrote:Ah, geez! 13 wins and 8 losses or 62%!
04 - 1 win.
05 - 0 wins from 1.
06 - 0 wins from 1.
08 - 1 win from 3.

2 from 6. 33%.
Young man, if you are going to enter the world of stats, at least make a decent attempt, even if you are making it up. First, you said 'since 04', although including 04 only makes the stats better for the Saints,

Next, the Saints played 6 games at the G for 5 wins in 05, 5 games for 3 wins in 06, 2 from 4 in 07, 2 from 5 in 08 (including the two finals losses), and one from one this year. That is, 13 wins from 21 games.

If you want to make a point about games v Collingwood at the G, then that's another stat. Since 04, it is 2 wins and two losses. We didn't play each other there in 2004.


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perfectionist wrote:
Johnny Utah wrote:
perfectionist wrote:Ah, geez! 13 wins and 8 losses or 62%!
04 - 1 win.
05 - 0 wins from 1.
06 - 0 wins from 1.
08 - 1 win from 3.

2 from 6. 33%.
Young man, if you are going to enter the world of stats, at least make a decent attempt, even if you are making it up. First, you said 'since 04', although including 04 only makes the stats better for the Saints,

Next, the Saints played 6 games at the G for 5 wins in 05, 5 games for 3 wins in 06, 2 from 4 in 07, 2 from 5 in 08 (including the two finals losses), and one from one this year. That is, 13 wins from 21 games.

If you want to make a point about games v Collingwood at the G, then that's another stat. Since 04, it is 2 wins and two losses. We didn't play each other there in 2004.
He did specify games at the 'G in September so he almost got it right.

It's actually 3 out of 7. Soon to be 4 out out of 8.


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Post: # 810503Post satchmo »

kosifantutti23 wrote: It's actually 3 out of 7. Soon to be 4 out out of 8.
let's make it 5 out of 9 this year!


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kosifantutti23 wrote:
perfectionist wrote:
Johnny Utah wrote:
perfectionist wrote:Ah, geez! 13 wins and 8 losses or 62%!
04 - 1 win.
05 - 0 wins from 1.
06 - 0 wins from 1.
08 - 1 win from 3.

2 from 6. 33%.
Young man, if you are going to enter the world of stats, at least make a decent attempt, even if you are making it up. First, you said 'since 04', although including 04 only makes the stats better for the Saints,

Next, the Saints played 6 games at the G for 5 wins in 05, 5 games for 3 wins in 06, 2 from 4 in 07, 2 from 5 in 08 (including the two finals losses), and one from one this year. That is, 13 wins from 21 games.

If you want to make a point about games v Collingwood at the G, then that's another stat. Since 04, it is 2 wins and two losses. We didn't play each other there in 2004.
He did specify games at the 'G in September so he almost got it right.

It's actually 3 out of 7. Soon to be 4 out out of 8.
My apologies, I was distracted by the original thread. Then again, September action for Collingwood at the G since 04 is not good reading either. One win from four games. Unless a team wins the flag, the MCG September ratio is always going to be bad.


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