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Curious about Ball and Maguire

Post: # 858461Post ace »

I just checked out the StKilda list at
http://www.saints.com.au/players/tabid/ ... fault.aspx

The club has deleted Leigh Fisher from the senior table and Brad Howard from the rookie table.

However Luke Ball and Matt Maguire still remain on the senior table.


Tommy Walsh has yet to be added to the rookie table.
But news is, he and David Moran left Ireland bound for Melbourne last Wednesday.
That means they should have arrived Thursday night or Friday morning.
Facebook claims Tommy was running laps at the Moorabbin ground on Friday.
Probably shopping for an air conditioner today.
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Post: # 858462Post Spinner »

Interesting.

Ive been checking that out lately to see if our single digit numbers have been utilised.....

3, 4, 6 & 8 How exciting!!! Just use them all - none of this unrealistic 'worthiness' that some people demand.

Some people want to wait until they are certain we have the next plugger before handing over number four, for example.

Newsflash - Once players make it they usually keep their number, ie Dal Santo


My Hopes:
3 - Steven
4 - Geary
6 - Dawson
8 - Lynch

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Re: Curious about Ball and Maguire

Post: # 858464Post saintbrat »

ace wrote:I just checked out the StKilda list at
http://www.saints.com.au/players/tabid/ ... fault.aspx

The club has deleted Leigh Fisher from the senior table and Brad Howard from the rookie table.

However Luke Ball and Matt Maguire still remain on the senior table.


Tommy Walsh has yet to be added to the rookie table.
But news is, he and David Moran left Ireland bound for Melbourne last Wednesday.
That means they should have arrived Thursday night or Friday morning.
Probably shopping for an air conditioner today.
tommy was seen on Linen House Oval yesterday
stkildafc St Kilda's newest recruit Tommy Walsh is running laps at @Linen_House Oval and looking very fit under the Australian sun! #gosaints
11:49 AM Nov 13th from web
Saints twitter
glad he was doing it in the morning and not afternoon.


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Post: # 858465Post saintbrat »

Spinner wrote:Interesting.

Ive been checking that out lately to see if our single digit numbers have been utilised.....

3, 4, 6 & 8 How exciting!!! Just use them all - none of this unrealistic 'worthiness' that some people demand.

Some people want to wait until they are certain we have the next plugger before handing over number four, for example.

Newsflash - Once players make it they usually keep their number, ie Dal Santo


My Hopes:
3 - Steven
4 - Geary
6 - Dawson
8 - Lynch

Bring it ON!!!!
can Eddy have 9 spinner?


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Post: # 858466Post westy »

Spinner wrote:Interesting.

Ive been checking that out lately to see if our single digit numbers have been utilised.....

3, 4, 6 & 8 How exciting!!! Just use them all - none of this unrealistic 'worthiness' that some people demand.

Some people want to wait until they are certain we have the next plugger before handing over number four, for example.

Newsflash - Once players make it they usually keep their number, ie Dal Santo


My Hopes:
3 - Steven
4 - Geary
6 - Dawson
8 - Lynch

Bring it ON!!!!
I hope Steven keeps 34 because my number plate over here is SKFC34 and so far I have had Jack Daniels and Brent Guerra and they have both gone


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Post: # 858467Post Moccha »

saintbrat wrote:
Spinner wrote:Interesting.

Ive been checking that out lately to see if our single digit numbers have been utilised.....

3, 4, 6 & 8 How exciting!!! Just use them all - none of this unrealistic 'worthiness' that some people demand.

Some people want to wait until they are certain we have the next plugger before handing over number four, for example.

Newsflash - Once players make it they usually keep their number, ie Dal Santo


My Hopes:
3 - Steven
4 - Geary
6 - Dawson
8 - Lynch

Bring it ON!!!!
can Eddy have 9 spinner?
9 belongs to Lovett. Eddy?


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Moccha wrote:[


9 belongs to Lovett. Eddy?
whoops thanks moccha it's the heat ..... :shock:


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Post: # 858470Post vacuous space »

I want Geary to wear 8, because 8 looks kind of looks like gears.


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vacuous space wrote:I want Geary to wear 8, because 8 looks kind of looks like gears.
Yes i like it!


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Post: # 858473Post ace »

Spinner wrote:Interesting.

Ive been checking that out lately to see if our single digit numbers have been utilised.....

3, 4, 6 & 8 How exciting!!! Just use them all - none of this unrealistic 'worthiness' that some people demand.

Some people want to wait until they are certain we have the next plugger before handing over number four, for example.

Newsflash - Once players make it they usually keep their number, ie Dal Santo


My Hopes:
3 - Steven
4 - Geary
6 - Dawson
8 - Lynch

Bring it ON!!!!
I hope they get those numbers.
But not by being gifted them now, instead earning them the hard way.

Nathan Burke handed his number on to Xavier Clarke based on promise.

Instead all we got was a hamstrung player sitting in the stands.


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Spinner wrote:
vacuous space wrote:I want Geary to wear 8, because 8 looks kind of looks like gears.
Yes i like it!

Yep. Like this idea too!!!!

I wonder if the likes of Geary and Zac are looking for a lower number or if they are happy with what they have.


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Re: Curious about Ball and Maguire

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ace wrote:I just checked out the StKilda list at
http://www.saints.com.au/players/tabid/ ... fault.aspx

The club has deleted Leigh Fisher from the senior table and Brad Howard from the rookie table.

However Luke Ball and Matt Maguire still remain on the senior table.


Tommy Walsh has yet to be added to the rookie table.
But news is, he and David Moran left Ireland bound for Melbourne last Wednesday.
That means they should have arrived Thursday night or Friday morning.
Facebook claims Tommy was running laps at the Moorabbin ground on Friday.
Probably shopping for an air conditioner today.
YTBU :idea: !!


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Post: # 858478Post borderbarry »

As far as I am concerned 4 belongs to the Doc, not to Plugger. Plugger wore 14 when he won the Brownlow, then he was given 4. Had he stayed at the club for the rest of his career he would most likely had made 4 his own, but he wore 14 for the most successful and exciting part of his career with the Saints. Now that Luke Ball has done the same thing, 14 must be Pluggers.


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Jack Steven would look good in Ross Smith's and Burkey's old number, but I would maybe give 4 to a forward, and someone special. After next season.


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Post: # 858482Post Bernard Shakey »

borderbarry wrote:As far as I am concerned 4 belongs to the Doc, not to Plugger. Plugger wore 14 when he won the Brownlow, then he was given 4. Had he stayed at the club for the rest of his career he would most likely had made 4 his own, but he wore 14 for the most successful and exciting part of his career with the Saints. Now that Luke Ball has done the same thing, 14 must be Pluggers.
Agree wholeheartedly, 4 is the Doc and 14 is Plugger. Jimmy O'Dea was also 14.


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8 for Zac would be ironic.


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CeilidhSaint wrote:8 for Zac would be ironic.
Yes, time to see number 8 in the forward line. Giving it to Lynchy

Mixing the players up, example 8 going from defence to the forwardline relieves a lot of pressure and expectation. Allowing the player to attempt to 'make it his own'!


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Give 4 to Tommy Walsh.

Just to make sure that he's under no pressure to perform :P


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borderbarry wrote:As far as I am concerned 4 belongs to the Doc, not to Plugger. Plugger wore 14 when he won the Brownlow, then he was given 4. Had he stayed at the club for the rest of his career he would most likely had made 4 his own, but he wore 14 for the most successful and exciting part of his career with the Saints. Now that Luke Ball has done the same thing, 14 must be Pluggers.
Can we burn number 14 never to be used again.
It seems that it turns players into greedy traitors.


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Re: Curious about Ball and Maguire

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ace wrote:I just checked out the StKilda list at
http://www.saints.com.au/players/tabid/ ... fault.aspx

The club has deleted Leigh Fisher from the senior table and Brad Howard from the rookie table.

However Luke Ball and Matt Maguire still remain on the senior table.


Tommy Walsh has yet to be added to the rookie table.
But news is, he and David Moran left Ireland bound for Melbourne last Wednesday.
That means they should have arrived Thursday night or Friday morning.
Facebook claims Tommy was running laps at the Moorabbin ground on Friday.
Probably shopping for an air conditioner today.
Still intrigued about this.....Everyone except Matt and Luke of the ones delisted are gone...


Hmmmm


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Spinner wrote: Still intrigued about this.....Everyone except Matt and Luke of the ones delisted are gone...


Hmmmm
could be related to something I found early on in the Luke saga- as long as their on the list they are 'covered' so to speak for pay/ or wages etc
they will continue to get an allowance- - good faith by the club to the players
If a contract between a Club and a Player expires on 31 October in any
year, the Player shall remain registered as a Player of and be bound to
the Club until the conclusion of the National Draft Selection Meetin
g in
the relevant year. This Rule does not apply if the Club deletes the
Player’s name from its List during the period 31 October until the time
and day when the de-listed Player is able to nominate for the National
Draft Selection Meeting under Rule 4.4.3.
2.8.3 Allowance
If a Player remains bound to a Club by reason of Rule 2.8.2, the Club
must pay to the Player an allowance i
n the amount determined from
time to time by the AFL and AFLPA.
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Post: # 858745Post Spinner »

saintbrat wrote:
Spinner wrote: Still intrigued about this.....Everyone except Matt and Luke of the ones delisted are gone...


Hmmmm
could be related to something I found early on in the Luke saga- as long as their on the list they are 'covered' so to speak for pay/ or wages etc
they will continue to get an allowance- - good faith by the club to the players
If a contract between a Club and a Player expires on 31 October in any
year, the Player shall remain registered as a Player of and be bound to
the Club until the conclusion of the National Draft Selection Meetin
g in
the relevant year. This Rule does not apply if the Club deletes the
Player’s name from its List during the period 31 October until the time
and day when the de-listed Player is able to nominate for the National
Draft Selection Meeting under Rule 4.4.3.

2.8.3 Allowance
If a Player remains bound to a Club by reason of Rule 2.8.2, the Club
must pay to the Player an allowance i
n the amount determined from
time to time by the AFL and AFLPA.
http://aflpa.com.au/sites/all/files
/AFL%20Player%20Rules%20-%202009%20Current.pdf
Going by that I Ball has been delisted - as he was able to nominate for the draft.


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Post: # 858749Post saintbrat »

Spinner wrote:
saintbrat wrote:If a contract between a Club and a Player expires on 31 October in any
year, the Player shall remain registered as a Player of and be bound to
the Club until the conclusion of the National Draft Selection Meeting
in
the relevant year. This Rule does not apply if the Club deletes the
Player’s name from its List during the period 31 October until the time
and day
when the de-listed Player is able to nominate for the National
Draft Selection Meeting under Rule 4.4.3.

2.8.3 Allowance
If a Player remains bound to a Club by reason of Rule 2.8.2, the Club
must pay to the Player an allowance i
n the amount determined from
time to time by the AFL and AFLPA.
http://aflpa.com.au/sites/all/files
/AFL%20Player%20Rules%20-%202009%20Current.pdf

Going by that I Ball has been delisted - as he was able to nominate for the draft.
NO- as long as they leave his name 'On the list" he gets the allowance till the end of the National Draft meeting"
is how I read it....
same applies for both.
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Post: # 858750Post bobmurray »

Ball and McGuire aren't on this player list...


http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx


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Re: Curious about Ball and Maguire

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saintbrat wrote:
Spinner wrote: Still intrigued about this.....Everyone except Matt and Luke of the ones delisted are gone...


Hmmmm
could be related to something I found early on in the Luke saga- as long as their on the list they are 'covered' so to speak for pay/ or wages etc
they will continue to get an allowance- - good faith by the club to the players
If a contract between a Club and a Player expires on 31 October in any
year, the Player shall remain registered as a Player of and be bound to
the Club until the conclusion of the National Draft Selection Meetin
g in
the relevant year. This Rule does not apply if the Club deletes the
Player’s name from its List during the period 31 October until the time
and day when the de-listed Player is able to nominate for the National
Draft Selection Meeting under Rule 4.4.3.
2.8.3 Allowance
If a Player remains bound to a Club by reason of Rule 2.8.2, the Club
must pay to the Player an allowance i
n the amount determined from
time to time by the AFL and AFLPA.
http://aflpa.com.au/sites/all/files/AFL ... urrent.pdf
But Luke and Matt have both BEEN officially delisted during that period.
They simply remain on a table on St Kilda FC's website.


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