fitness challenge

[terry smith rules]

a poker site in u.s is asking if there are any sportman capable of running a 5 minute mile and bench pressing 500 pounds (240kg ??)

anyway they are talking wide receivers etc

I reckon there would be a few afl players who could give it a shake

Kouta in his day, who from the saints

Please remember a 5minute mile is tasty (4 75second 400ms)

[Bardon Saint]

I would just about doubt that anyone in the AFL could bench 240kg. When doing some coaching at the Lions, the bench press records were on the wall. I think (back in 2002) Alistair Lynch had about 160kg from memory. Maybe 165kg?? He was a bit of a tank but this is way off 240kg.

What was Plugger's best? G-train? They'd be up there with the bench but not to quick endurance wise.

[Batnoe]

There wouldnt be many people who would bench that... so if they can bench that and run they are athletes

G Train i think held the record for bench press.

Jason Dunstall did for a long time


I saw on youtube an 11 year old running 1 milne in 4.50 so i would say that all players on our list could do that. Now if u r going on stats on times on what the 400m break down is at under 5 mins. The fastest marathon runner over the course of 42km runs every 400m in 77 seconds. So a 75 second 400 over 4 lots is pretty slow


the fastest marathon is 2hrs and 4 mins

there are 105 400ms in a marthon race

124mins divided by 105 equals 1.18mins per 400m

so working out what .18 of a minute is

60 times .18 equals 10.8 seconds

so my intial time of 77sec of 400m over course of marathon was wrong

it is actually 70.8 seconds every 400m


FREAK

so i am sure the AFL players being athletes that every single player on each list could run at that pace

Considering 3 or 4 players ran 3km under 10 mins (twice length- tired) there should be a lot

[Saintersss]

Yeah I'd say pretty much all players in the AFL could run one mile in 5minutes.

[n1ck]

G-Train held the WCE bench press record.

He also held their record for 400m sprint. Dont know about his endurance running, although at the time he was a half back flanker / winger, so it must have been okay.

[terry smith rules]

Yeah I'd say pretty much all players in the AFL could run one mile in 5minutes.

suggest you find a 400m track and run a 75 second 400

I would suggest that maybe 5 at each club could

[Saintersss]

Yeah I'd say pretty much all players in the AFL could run one mile in 5minutes.

suggest you find a 400m track and run a 75 second 400

I would suggest that maybe 5 at each club could

Last time I did the tan I did it in 18minutes and it was just before pre-season, so no where near peak fitness. The tan is almost 4km,(about 2.4 times more than a mile, so thats mean I did about 1.6km in 7.5minutes) so I'm pretty sure at peak fitness I'd just make 1.6km in 5minutes.

And I'd be pretty dissapointed if any of the players were less fit than me as personally I don't think I'm that fit.

[Moods]

Yeah I'd say pretty much all players in the AFL could run one mile in 5minutes.

suggest you find a 400m track and run a 75 second 400

I would suggest that maybe 5 at each club could

And I would suggest that most ppl who play high level local footy could run 400m in that time. Considering the best runners in the world run 400 in roughly 42 seconds, whats makes you think that reasonably fit males couldn't run it within 30 seconds of the best athletes in the world - let alone elite footballers?

[Batnoe]

Again, i say it


the world record of a 42km marathon is average of 70.8 seconds per 400m

there are 105 400ms in this, you are saying you cant do this at 75 secs for 4 of them?


The running part is fine, but trying to find a person who can do that and bench press 240kg might be impossible. To bench press that amount they would have to weight 150Kg plus?

[terry smith rules]

Yeah I'd say pretty much all players in the AFL could run one mile in 5minutes.

suggest you find a 400m track and run a 75 second 400

I would suggest that maybe 5 at each club could

And I would suggest that most ppl who play high level local footy could run 400m in that time. Considering the best runners in the world run 400 in roughly 42 seconds, whats makes you think that reasonably fit males couldn't run it within 30 seconds of the best athletes in the world - let alone elite footballers?

it is about anaerobic threshold, yes maybe 1 or 2 400's at pace but holding that for 4 laps is another thing.

guys who are pushing 100kgs struggle to run that fast

[Moods]

At our local footy club in pre-season a few years ago. WE had to run 1500m in 5 minutes, rest for 5 minutes and do it again. We did this 5 times. The fittest guys at the club did it easily.

I too would be disappointed if most of the players on our list couldn't run this distance in 5 minutes, given that they are professional athletes and the sport that they play requires a good aerobic base.

[terry smith rules]

At our local footy club in pre-season a few years ago. WE had to run 1500m in 5 minutes, rest for 5 minutes and do it again. We did this 5 times. The fittest guys at the club did it easily.

I too would be disappointed if most of the players on our list couldn't run this distance in 5 minutes, given that they are professional athletes and the sport that they play requires a good aerobic base.

sorry I come from an athletic background and I don't believe that

you might have done 5 minutes but not 1500m's

let me give you an example if you could do 5 1500m reps in 5 minutes you would be capable of running 10km in somewhere b/w 32 and 34 minutes

what is your best time for 10km

[Moods]

I did say there was a rest of 5 minutes in between each 1500m.

[Batnoe]

I did a pre season with Morningside once and they were damn fit

u had to run 400m in 60 secs

rest for 20 secs

then 400 m in 58 secs

rest for 20 secs

400m in 56 secs

rest for 20 secs

400m in 56 secs

Damn tough, me and another guy that couldnt do it. Fair to say i didnt play for Morningside!!


This came as a representitive 3km runner to not being able to keep up with these guys when i was at my peak fitness... It is possible and i am sure 85% of all AFL players would do this

[Legendary]

The majority (75%) of AFL players would meet the running requirement.

Very few would meet the bench press requirement.

Maybe no-one would meet both?

[Eastern]

G-Train held the WCE bench press record.

He also held their record for 400m sprint. Dont know about his endurance running, although at the time he was a half back flanker / winger, so it must have been okay.

I think G was middle distance runner a a junior. Would have gone close to both when he was at West Coast. By the time he got to us he was a monster, which may have affected his endurance. He did hold the AFL bench press record when he was with us (and may still do) !!

[Bardon Saint]

I agree with most posters by saying that the majority of AFL footballers would meet the running requirement. The majority of AFL footballers would be bench pressing in the 120-160kg range. Thus a long way off from 240kgs. That is just massive.

[markinUSA]

For the record, 500 pounds is 226 kg, not 240. Not sure if that matters or not, but I just thought I would clarify that issue.

[Saintersss]

Oh and just saw this on AFL website to further prove the point that most AFL players would do 1.6km in 5minutes.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx
"Mulkearns estimates most AFL players would negotiate the course (3.2km/2miles) in a time somewhere between 10min 45sec and 11min 45sec: a pretty cracking pace of less than four minutes a kilometre."

Thats equates to at max. 6minutes every mile, but obvisously you would take off at least a minute as they are running double the distance.


And I don't think anyone in the AFL could bench 225kg. Gherig held the record at around 180 or so I think.

[JuanTheSydSainter]

Oh and just saw this on AFL website to further prove the point that most AFL players would do 1.6km in 5minutes.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx
"Mulkearns estimates most AFL players would negotiate the course (3.2km/2miles) in a time somewhere between 10min 45sec and 11min 45sec: a pretty cracking pace of less than four minutes a kilometre."

Thats equates to at max. 6minutes every mile, but obvisously you would take off at least a minute as they are running double the distance.


And I don't think anyone in the AFL could bench 225kg. Gherig held the record at around 180 or so I think.

I agree that no one in the AFL would be even close to benching 226 kg. But anyone here who reckons the majority of AFL players could run a 5 min mile are grossly misguided.

The 1500m world record is 3min 26sec.
The 3000m world record is 7min 20 sec.

So that means an elite runner can run a 1500m 46.8% faster than a 3000m (ie. in a touch less than half the time which makes sense).

Lets apply that logic in the context of the AFL. From memory Chris Judd ran Princes Park (3200m) in 10min 27sec last year and was the Blue's quickest by a fair margin. Multiply that time by 46.8% and Judd runs 1600m (1 mile) in 4mins 53 sec.

So Chris Judd was the only 2009 Carlton player who could run a 5min mile. While other clubs have better time trialists than Judd there would only be a handful at each club.

If Mulkearns reckons most players fall between 10:45 and 11:45 over 2 miles then that would equate to between 5:02 and 5:30 over a mile.

AFL payers are not elite runners! They are elite footballers! To put things in perspective the Crows run a 3000m time trial for their pre-season testing. Last year their quickest player ran approx 9:30. The world record is 7:20. That means the quickest Crow would have been lapped twice by the world record holder in a 7 1/2 lap race!

[The_Merchant]

The 1500m world record is 3min 26sec.
The 3000m world record is 7min 20 sec.

So that means an elite runner can run a 1500m 46.8% faster than a 3000m (ie. in a touch less than half the time which makes sense).

Lets apply that logic in the context of the AFL. From memory Chris Judd ran Princes Park (3200m) in 10min 27sec last year and was the Blue's quickest by a fair margin. Multiply that time by 46.8% and Judd runs 1600m (1 mile) in 4mins 53 sec.

So Chris Judd was the only 2009 Carlton player who could run a 5min mile. While other clubs have better time trialists than Judd there would only be a handful at each club.

Can't fault the maths, but the logic doesn't work. You would actually need to know how fast the world record holder over one distance could run the other distance. Comparing the abilities of different people in different events and then using that to work out the performance of one athlete in one event by their performance in another event doesn't work. Someone who can run within 5% of the world record in the 100m wouldn't be able to run within 5% of the marathon world record.

I would suggest that plenty of people can run 1500m in significantly less than half the time that they can run 3000m. The fact that Chris Judd was the fastest over 3000m doesn't mean he is the fastest over 1500m, or 100m or 10m (Although in his case he probably would be because he is a freak).

I would be very surprised if Chris Judd was the only 2009 Carlton player who could run a five min mile.

[Batnoe]

i Saw this clip the other day

(the basketball one) then went through his other clips





Here is an 11 year old running 1500m in 4.50min



him doing 400m in 1min'

[Batnoe]

Again, i say it


the world record of a 42km marathon is average of 70.8 seconds per 400m

there are 105 400ms in this, you are saying you cant do this at 75 secs for 4 of them?


The running part is fine, but trying to find a person who can do that and bench press 240kg might be impossible. To bench press that amount they would have to weight 150Kg plus?

Put marathon record average 1600m although we are only saying 1500 and it is 4min 41 sec... Plus they are doing another 100m and are still 16 secs so they are doing 17.5 second 100m so 4min 41 take 17 is 4 min 24 sec every mile for the whole way. I know this is the world record, but i am sure anyone that is fit can do 1 mile in 5 mins

[Batnoe]

this is a forum of what people have written regarding good times at the 1500m

please note this is a 14 year old female and the answers people are telling her proves that anyone that is in shape should do 5 mins easily, especally AFL players

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/in ... 608AArY3S8


and then a 16 year old boy asking, most are saying mid 4.30min for his age is a good time, so if AFL players train and are 18+ well then i would assume they could all run under 5 min
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 039AAhSq5X




Now talking about the Chris Judd saga and his time, are you talking about his mile pace or his 1500m pace? Remember these times are on a flat tract, Judds time trial would be on concrete, over hills, through puddles, past pedestrians, all slowing you down! So looking at Judds time of 10m 27 sec is over 3200 m, half of that is 1600 so 5 min 13 sec 1600m

So as a mile is 1500 and not 1600 m then Judds time would be 78sec per 400m which is 19.5sec per 100m
5 min 13 sec take 19.5 sec is 4 min 54 secs. This is also given he ran a race of over double the size so if Judd set out to just do 1500m i am sure he would run it in sub 4.30

I am pretty sure Leigh Fisher, Geary, Eddy all did their 3000 in sub 9.50's last year which is 4.55 min miles, plus the fact that they also did double the distance


http://www.sportscomet.com/Running/202800.htm

[JuanTheSydSainter]

this is a forum of what people have written regarding good times at the 1500m

please note this is a 14 year old female and the answers people are telling her proves that anyone that is in shape should do 5 mins easily, especally AFL players

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/in ... 608AArY3S8


and then a 16 year old boy asking, most are saying mid 4.30min for his age is a good time, so if AFL players train and are 18+ well then i would assume they could all run under 5 min
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 039AAhSq5X




Now talking about the Chris Judd saga and his time, are you talking about his mile pace or his 1500m pace? Remember these times are on a flat tract, Judds time trial would be on concrete, over hills, through puddles, past pedestrians, all slowing you down! So looking at Judds time of 10m 27 sec is over 3200 m, half of that is 1600 so 5 min 13 sec 1600m

So as a mile is 1500 and not 1600 m then Judds time would be 78sec per 400m which is 19.5sec per 100m
5 min 13 sec take 19.5 sec is 4 min 54 secs. This is also given he ran a race of over double the size so if Judd set out to just do 1500m i am sure he would run it in sub 4.30

I am pretty sure Leigh Fisher, Geary, Eddy all did their 3000 in sub 9.50's last year which is 4.55 min miles, plus the fact that they also did double the distance


http://www.sportscomet.com/Running/202800.htm

A mile is 1500m???? Sorry to burst your bubble but a mile is 1609m.

And regarding Leigh Fisher, Geary and Eddy - yes they could run a 5 min mile. As I said, a handful of players at each club would be capable.