McQualter OUT

[groupie1]

How about the idea of using Armitage as the 'McQualter forward'? He did good up forward, he has good defensive and offensive sides to his game, but too slow for a permanent mid. And bring young Ledger and Cripps/Steven in to give us a bit of bite.

Time for mediocrity is over. McQualter/Peake OUT!

What do people think?

[Bernard Shakey]

I think that if Benny is your hero, I don't care what you think.

[Sainternist]

McQualter and Peake should, ought and must be omitted.

For two guys that you'd think would be trying til they go blue in the face to maintain their spots in the side, they DO NOT cut the mustard.

[Dr Spaceman]

McQualter and Peake should, ought and must be omitted.

For two guys that you'd think would be trying til they go blue in the face to maintain their spots in the side, they DO NOT cut the mustard.

If Mini and Peake are better than ALL the young similar sized players we have running around for Sandy we are in for a world of pain

[AnythingsPossibleSaints]

Ledger apparently has a "6 weeks hammy", so we can rule him out and since Jack Steven just played his first game of the year today, I think we can safely predict that he won't be playing seniors for at least 3-4 weeks.
It's unfortunate, as both may well have been in the side last night had they been fully fit.

[groupie1]

Ledger apparently has a "6 weeks hammy", so we can rule him out and since Jack Steven just played his first game of the year today, I think we can safely predict that he won't be playing seniors for at least 3-4 weeks.
It's unfortunate, as both may well have been in the side last night had they been fully fit.

Ok, fair points. But, like the guy above you said, if Peake and Mcqual cannot be replaced we really have recruited poorly.

[ralphsmith]

Ledger apparently has a "6 weeks hammy", so we can rule him out and since Jack Steven just played his first game of the year today, I think we can safely predict that he won't be playing seniors for at least 3-4 weeks.
It's unfortunate, as both may well have been in the side last night had they been fully fit.

Ok, fair points. But, like the guy above you said, if Peake and Mcqual cannot be replaced we really have recruited poorly.

Which is looking like the case.

Which is very unfortunate for our long long long awaited premiership hopes.

[Dr Spaceman]

Ledger apparently has a "6 weeks hammy", so we can rule him out and since Jack Steven just played his first game of the year today, I think we can safely predict that he won't be playing seniors for at least 3-4 weeks.
It's unfortunate, as both may well have been in the side last night had they been fully fit.

Ok, fair points. But, like the guy above you said, if Peake and Mcqual cannot be replaced we really have recruited poorly.

Which is looking like the case.

Which is very unfortunate for our long long long awaited premiership hopes.

Likely replacements are there but have been hindered by injury, or are just into their development, or both.

The exception is Al Smith who is up and running.

Even if he's not a direct replacement for those blokes he can be brought in and the side rejigged.

[AnythingsPossibleSaints]

Ledger apparently has a "6 weeks hammy", so we can rule him out and since Jack Steven just played his first game of the year today, I think we can safely predict that he won't be playing seniors for at least 3-4 weeks.
It's unfortunate, as both may well have been in the side last night had they been fully fit.

Ok, fair points. But, like the guy above you said, if Peake and Mcqual cannot be replaced we really have recruited poorly.

I'm not arguing with that, I was extremely disappointed when I saw our team on Thursday night. I'd be playing SMith ahead of Peake and I think I'd have Steven, Schneider and maybe even Ledger instead of Mini, if they were available and fit.

[AnythingsPossibleSaints]

Ledger apparently has a "6 weeks hammy", so we can rule him out and since Jack Steven just played his first game of the year today, I think we can safely predict that he won't be playing seniors for at least 3-4 weeks.
It's unfortunate, as both may well have been in the side last night had they been fully fit.

Ok, fair points. But, like the guy above you said, if Peake and Mcqual cannot be replaced we really have recruited poorly.

Which is looking like the case.

Which is very unfortunate for our long long long awaited premiership hopes.

Likely replacements are there but have been hindered by injury, or are just into their development, or both.

The exception is Al Smith who is up and running.

Even if he's not a direct replacement for those blokes he can be brought in and the side rejigged.

Agree, but that would require flexibility and I'm not sure Ross is too familiar with that concept.

[Bernard Shakey]

Ledger apparently has a "6 weeks hammy", so we can rule him out and since Jack Steven just played his first game of the year today, I think we can safely predict that he won't be playing seniors for at least 3-4 weeks.
It's unfortunate, as both may well have been in the side last night had they been fully fit.

Ok, fair points. But, like the guy above you said, if Peake and Mcqual cannot be replaced we really have recruited poorly.

I'm not arguing with that, I was extremely disappointed when I saw our team on Thursday night. I'd be playing SMith ahead of Peake and I think I'd have Steven, Schneider and maybe even Ledger instead of Mini, if they were available and fit.

They weren't!

[AnythingsPossibleSaints]

Smith was. That's a start.

[Bernard Shakey]

Smith was. That's a start.

He was short of a run, but will get his chance before too long.

[AnythingsPossibleSaints]

Short of a run? Didn't he play every one of our pre-season games?
And Peake only took part in about a quarter of the game. I'm pretty confident Smith could have gotten through a quarter.

[skeptic]

I would have rather played an underdone Steven than put up with mini's ongoing pathetic performance

Any of
Cripps
Smith
Steven

Would be better

Heck even putting Tommy Walsh or Stanley in the team as extra KPP and not having ne1 do Mini's role (which we know will be ineffectove anyway) would have been better

[Quixote]

Ledgers 6 week hammy was done 3 weeks ago at least by my calculations.

[Wrote for Luck]

Lyon said today on radio that Stanley didn't do enough last game to impress to get a spot last night. He had the door but didn't earn it.
He also said Gilbo didn't want to play forward. Glad to hear it.
Agree Mini wasn't good last night. At this stage could see Armo or Steven in the role. But I like Armo in the middle.
Plenty of time gents!

[vacuous space]

How about the idea of using Armitage as the 'McQualter forward'?

How about just killing the idea of a 'McQualter forward'? I worry that given too long in that role, Armo would just turn into Andrew McQualter or Robert Eddy. Same with the kids. I'd much rather see them get some time in the midfield and have a chance to succeed.

I'd like to see McQualter go back to Sandy and play in the middle. Whatever effectiveness he had as a forward is now long gone. He did well when teams were struggling with our press. Now teams our turning over the ball much higher on the ground.

I'm not sure who I'd play. Somebody that the coaching staff has enough faith in to play in the midfield. I'd like to see Joey, BJ and Dal spend some time up there and kick some goals.

[groupie1]

How about the idea of using Armitage as the 'McQualter forward'?

How about just killing the idea of a 'McQualter forward'? I worry that given too long in that role, Armo would just turn into Andrew McQualter or Robert Eddy. Same with the kids. I'd much rather see them get some time in the midfield and have a chance to succeed.

I'd like to see McQualter go back to Sandy and play in the middle. Whatever effectiveness he had as a forward is now long gone. He did well when teams were struggling with our press. Now teams our turning over the ball much higher on the ground.

I'm not sure who I'd play. Somebody that the coaching staff has enough faith in to play in the midfield. I'd like to see Joey, BJ and Dal spend some time up there and kick some goals.

You make some good points there, man, 'killing the idea of the McQ forward.' Problem is the need to change the RL paradigm is more difficult than working within it and changing personnel. I reckon he's gonna want one.

[Dr Spaceman]

Well another sleep and I wake up still wanting Mini out.

But it seems as though he has a calf injury, so regardless of any perceived "Ross love" he is likely to miss next Friday.

Let's hope whoever comes in nails it and greatly reduces the need for "Mini Out" threads in the future.

[samoht]

Burgoyne would have been a handy bottom 6 player.
Exactly the type we needed - with speed to burn.

Imagine him in our team instead of Mini - who I admire as a
gutsy trier.

Couldn't we have squeezed Burgoyne in after we gave Ball his marching orders - (or when Ball capitulated to the Pies) ?

[InkerSaint]

Shaun Burgoyne cost Hawthorn Mark Williams and pick 9.

We were minus a tall forward on Friday, so for McQualter and Peake out the ins would be Smith/Winmar and Stanley/Archer for mine.

Talk of poor drafting is tosh, Blind Freddy can see the problem is an overly conservative selection process.

[matrix]

mini will go

prob out with that calf

[bergholt]

McQualter and Peake should, ought and must be omitted.

peake was on the ground for just over a quarter and had 11 possessions. i think he did as much as he could given his role.

[PJ]

peake was on the ground for just over a quarter and had 11 possessions. i think he did as much as he could given his role.

Agreed Peake was far from worst, actually pretty good.