The car crash is still in motion

[Cairnsman]

A poster recently likened our current situation to watching a car crash in slow motion.

It’s actually a really good analogy and unfortunately the reality is the crash isn’t complete.

And the reality is it won’t be complete for a while yet.

You just know that implosion is imminent; you just don’t know the exact timing or the final damage.

My hope is that we become a progressive organisation and act quickly and decisively with bold, hard and non conventional decisions.

Decisions not based on team harmony, or decisions based on what’s good for the “fabricâ€

[IluvHarvey]

Well if it was said in another thread why not put your comment in there?

there is no need to start a completely new thread.

[Saint_Ash]

Do you actually start any positive threads?

Everytime I read a thread that you have started it seems to be negative.

[Cairnsman]

Do you actually start any positive threads?

Everytime I read a thread that you have started it seems to be negative.

My hope is that we become a progressive organisation and act quickly and decisively with bold, hard and non conventional decisions.

What's not positive about that statement?

[Saint_Ash]

Do you actually start any positive threads?

Everytime I read a thread that you have started it seems to be negative.

My hope is that we become a progressive organisation and act quickly and decisively with bold, hard and non conventional decisions.

What's not positive about that statement?

Fair enough, TBH I stopped reading after the line about imminent implosion, however it does seem the subjects and general gist of your threads are negative.

[Saints43]

...however it does seem the subjects and general gist of your threads are negative.

Strange, 'cause it's good times at the moment...

[Cairnsman]

Do you actually start any positive threads?

Everytime I read a thread that you have started it seems to be negative.

My hope is that we become a progressive organisation and act quickly and decisively with bold, hard and non conventional decisions.

What's not positive about that statement?

Fair enough, TBH I stopped reading after the line about imminent implosion, however it does seem the subjects and general gist of your threads are negative.

My appologies officer but right at the moment I would argue that it is brutal honesty. Goddard needs a holiday. I for one hope he gets it this week.

[terry smith rules]

Do you actually start any positive threads?

Everytime I read a thread that you have started it seems to be negative.

Is there actually anything positive to say at the moment.

I agree with the OP re Goddard

He seems to be have a completely negative impact on the club.

I was watching against Carlton and you could see saints players everytime they made a mistake look over their shoulder to see if BJ had seen it and was about to give them a spray.

In terms of our knowledge of what is good for team harmony he seems to be almost as damaging as say a Fevola, in regard to team spirit and bringing the team together.

There I have said it, I may be wrong however I do know that there seems to be something occurring within the club that is way beyond what we can see.

[Saint_Ash]

Do you actually start any positive threads?

Everytime I read a thread that you have started it seems to be negative.

Is there actually anything positive to say at the moment.

Of course there is.

Are you saying the improvement in Armo's game isn't positive?
How about Siposs and Cripps coming in and making good contributions straight away?
What about the fact that we have shown we can put together good quarters or halves of football, granted we need to apply it for the full game, but we have shown that we can do it.

[Cairnsman]

but we have shown that we can do it.

Not in 2011. And we probably "can" do it, but we won’t, and everybody in Football world knows that, yet because we will want to protect the “fabricâ€

[saintspremiers]

Great thread Cairnsman.

People rubbished my attack on BJ last week.

I thought he'd turn the corner but didn't.

Let's hope he doesn't go to GWS and we get Jack Shyte for him.

[bob__71]

A week off for Goddard.....Collingwood can talk to him about how he isnt appreciated.....and a new chapter in history can be written. CM sounds a lot like Rodger the Todger to me.

[Saint_Ash]

Are you not comparing Goddard's current form to his past perfomances??

What's to say that 2010 wasn't just an extraordinary year for him and he is currently performing at a level which seems poor compared to last year but is actually about the same as the years prior?

No doubt he is not performing like he did last year, but I don't think his drop in form is any worse than most of the players in the team.

[Moods]

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I was watching against Carlton and you could see saints players everytime they made a mistake look over their shoulder to see if BJ had seen it and was about to give them a spray.

Get Fair dinkum. Talk about throwing some mayonaise on the scenario. AS if players have time to look over their shoulder, locate BJ on the field and then work out if he's about to give them a spray - all while the play is hurtling along around them

How about we stick to the facts

[Pwoit]

Let's hope he doesn't go to GWS and we get Jack Shyte for him.

What are his credentials dont know that I've heard of him

Anyway I prefer to look at our situation using Big Reds analogy

http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... se#1063622

[SainterK]

You can't treat every footballer with the same footy medicine.

[Cairnsman]

You can't treat every footballer with the same footy medicine.

what does that mean?

[SainterK]

You can't treat every footballer with the same footy medicine.

what does that mean?

Getting Goddard to go head to head with a player isn't working, yet it worked the week previous for Gilbert.

Different players, require different approaches.

I'd send him forward personally, the glimmers of form appear to have been sparked when he has played there this year.

[plugger66]

You can't treat every footballer with the same footy medicine.

what does that mean?

Getting Goddard to go head to head with a player isn't working, yet it worked the week previous for Gilbert.

Different players, require different approaches.

I'd send him forward personally, the glimmers of form appear to have been sparked when he has played there this year.

And how would he have gone last week in the last 3 quarters?

[Cairnsman]

You can't treat every footballer with the same footy medicine.

what does that mean?

Getting Goddard to go head to head with a player isn't working, yet it worked the week previous for Gilbert.

Different players, require different approaches.

I'd send him forward personally, the glimmers of form appear to have been sparked when he has played there this year.

And how would he have gone last week in the last 3 quarters?

7 poor performances in a row. How many should he be allowed?

[plugger66]

You can't treat every footballer with the same footy medicine.

what does that mean?

Getting Goddard to go head to head with a player isn't working, yet it worked the week previous for Gilbert.

Different players, require different approaches.

I'd send him forward personally, the glimmers of form appear to have been sparked when he has played there this year.

And how would he have gone last week in the last 3 quarters?

7 poor performances in a row. How many should he get?

As many as it takes for him to come good.

[Cairnsman]

You can't treat every footballer with the same footy medicine.

what does that mean?

Getting Goddard to go head to head with a player isn't working, yet it worked the week previous for Gilbert.

Different players, require different approaches.

I'd send him forward personally, the glimmers of form appear to have been sparked when he has played there this year.

And how would he have gone last week in the last 3 quarters?

7 poor performances in a row. How many should he get?

As many as it takes for him to come good.

See I don't get that. Normally players of Goddards ilk only allow themselves to have one, maybe two bads in a row. His problem is clearly not going away anytime soon. Who was the last AFL champion to just drop off like Goddard has? He needs a holiday. There is clearly something wrong with him. They gave him 3 days off after the season was only 2 rounds old. Whatever the reason, it doesn't look like he is going to sort it out under the scrutiny of an AFL game and the press will start to wind up on him now.

[SainterK]

You can't treat every footballer with the same footy medicine.

what does that mean?

Getting Goddard to go head to head with a player isn't working, yet it worked the week previous for Gilbert.

Different players, require different approaches.

I'd send him forward personally, the glimmers of form appear to have been sparked when he has played there this year.

And how would he have gone last week in the last 3 quarters?

Well who knows, if Roo had pushed up the ground maybe well.

[plugger66]

You can't treat every footballer with the same footy medicine.

what does that mean?

Getting Goddard to go head to head with a player isn't working, yet it worked the week previous for Gilbert.

Different players, require different approaches.

I'd send him forward personally, the glimmers of form appear to have been sparked when he has played there this year.

And how would he have gone last week in the last 3 quarters?

Well who knows, if Roo had pushed up the ground maybe well.

Unless Rooy was in the middle it wouldnt have mattered where he played after quarter on Saturday. BJ is a great HBF so lets just give him time there.

[Cairnsman]

You can't treat every footballer with the same footy medicine.

what does that mean?

Getting Goddard to go head to head with a player isn't working, yet it worked the week previous for Gilbert.

Different players, require different approaches.

I'd send him forward personally, the glimmers of form appear to have been sparked when he has played there this year.

And how would he have gone last week in the last 3 quarters?

Well who knows, if Roo had pushed up the ground maybe well.

Unless Rooy was in the middle it wouldnt have mattered where he played after quarter on Saturday. BJ is a great HBF so lets just give him time there.

BJ was a great HBF. Players can be, and have been converted successfully to other positions. But right now he needs more of a holliday than being told to relax on the playing field. I think RL will be doing him an injustice if he leaves him in the team and continues to underperform because the media scrutiny will intensify dramatically by the week and you'd think the problem will compound.