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Herald Sun has Adelaide:
Graham Johncock (left hip) 1-2 weeks
Matthew Jaensch (right shoulder) 1 week
With maybe Chris Knights to come back
You'd think we'd pretty much have just the one change, with such an even performance across the board.
Out Gwilt
In from Lynch, Simpkin, Blake, Geary?
I'm going left field and saying
Out Gwilt In Geary (sub)
Dal to move back (I think we need his kicking skills) Armitage back into the middle
I think Jones might get Thompson, and Dempster to get Dangerfield?
Thoughts?
Herald Sun has Adelaide:
Graham Johncock (left hip) 1-2 weeks
Matthew Jaensch (right shoulder) 1 week
With maybe Chris Knights to come back
You'd think we'd pretty much have just the one change, with such an even performance across the board.
Out Gwilt
In from Lynch, Simpkin, Blake, Geary?
I'm going left field and saying
Out Gwilt In Geary (sub)
Dal to move back (I think we need his kicking skills) Armitage back into the middle
I think Jones might get Thompson, and Dempster to get Dangerfield?
Thoughts?
Johncock a huge out for them...
Instrumental running and creating from the back half...
The game changed last week when he went off...
Zac on Tippett, who seems a little out of form at the moment, and hopefully doesn't pick this week to turn it around...
Thompson their best mid by quite a way... Jones needs to keep him to less than 20, and we'd be half way there to winning comfortably...
Dangerfield a danger, but pretty much perfect match up for Dempster as you mentioned SainterK, aside from Danger's pace... Dempster should be able to use his experience to block his run at it and limit his bursts..
As an aside, I've never been a Dempster fan, but he's done his job well in the last few weeks, and credit to him, has definetly earned his spot in the side...
Not really much else to worry about, although Knights did fluke a handful against us last time... Quite abit has changed since then...
Percentage boost may even be on the cards...
Instrumental running and creating from the back half...
The game changed last week when he went off...
Zac on Tippett, who seems a little out of form at the moment, and hopefully doesn't pick this week to turn it around...
Thompson their best mid by quite a way... Jones needs to keep him to less than 20, and we'd be half way there to winning comfortably...
Dangerfield a danger, but pretty much perfect match up for Dempster as you mentioned SainterK, aside from Danger's pace... Dempster should be able to use his experience to block his run at it and limit his bursts..
As an aside, I've never been a Dempster fan, but he's done his job well in the last few weeks, and credit to him, has definetly earned his spot in the side...
Not really much else to worry about, although Knights did fluke a handful against us last time... Quite abit has changed since then...
Percentage boost may even be on the cards...
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I'd love to see Walsh in, but I have a feeling it will be Blake.
B: Clarke, Dawson, Dempster
HB: Gilbert, Blake, Fisher
C: Montagna, Goddard, Gram
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, Peake
F: Milne, Koschitzke, Gamble
Foll: McEvoy, Dal Santo, Steven
Int: Jones, Armitage, Ray, Polo
They'll play it safe while sorting out the defence in Gwilt's absence. Clarke and Gilbert will need to maintain their good form.
B: Clarke, Dawson, Dempster
HB: Gilbert, Blake, Fisher
C: Montagna, Goddard, Gram
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, Peake
F: Milne, Koschitzke, Gamble
Foll: McEvoy, Dal Santo, Steven
Int: Jones, Armitage, Ray, Polo
They'll play it safe while sorting out the defence in Gwilt's absence. Clarke and Gilbert will need to maintain their good form.
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Reporting over here that Johncock and Jaensch look like inclusions, know more after training. Both provide run and goals from their half back line.
Knights was gifted two goals last time we played the Crows, but got to be in it to win it. Tippett always causes us problems, as does Dangerfield...danger game.
Knights was gifted two goals last time we played the Crows, but got to be in it to win it. Tippett always causes us problems, as does Dangerfield...danger game.
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After looking at that another left fielder for Gwilt would be to put Bakes on Knights or Dangerfield allowing Dempster to play down back rather than tagging and dal down back for Gwilt. Bakes started his career as a close checking tagger and has developed into the zone blocking small back. We back our mids to win a majority of contests against the rest of the Crows using our quick play on game. Big week for McEvoy, he goes well with Kosi and we will go well IMO, we need to limit our exposure with Gwilt gone as we won't be as organised.
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Blake in.
Otherwise predictable match ups.
Johncock out is a bigger loss than Gwilt for us. Johncock is an exceptional back half general and their only one. Thankfully we have a few who can play a similar role.
Have an inkling we'll be a pretty tough opposition. I expect us to be absolutely red hot this weekend. Consolidating after a good win will be vital, particularly so given who else is playing next weekend.
Syd v Dogs, Freo v WC, Hawks v Melb etc.
Any win is timely, but a strong win this weekend would set us up nicely with post Collingwood Gold Coast to follow.
Otherwise predictable match ups.
Johncock out is a bigger loss than Gwilt for us. Johncock is an exceptional back half general and their only one. Thankfully we have a few who can play a similar role.
Have an inkling we'll be a pretty tough opposition. I expect us to be absolutely red hot this weekend. Consolidating after a good win will be vital, particularly so given who else is playing next weekend.
Syd v Dogs, Freo v WC, Hawks v Melb etc.
Any win is timely, but a strong win this weekend would set us up nicely with post Collingwood Gold Coast to follow.
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The Crows set up well against the Saints, but we should carry on with our good form.
Sobraz points and match-ups are pretty close to the mark. No change there.
Jimmy Gwilt's replacement will be important for this and future games. It's a tough call, but I will go for Lynch, with Blake next (the "safe" bet).
We can afford to test Lynch in the next two games to see whether he can hold down the position.
Sobraz points and match-ups are pretty close to the mark. No change there.
Jimmy Gwilt's replacement will be important for this and future games. It's a tough call, but I will go for Lynch, with Blake next (the "safe" bet).
We can afford to test Lynch in the next two games to see whether he can hold down the position.
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Agree with mad saint guy.
If Harves is to be believed it will be one of Simpkin, Walsh, or Blake. Clarke's barely settled in and Gwilt's gone, I reckon we'll see Blake back in to steady the group.
As much as I'll be disappointed not to see more fresh faces, if Blake plays from here on in he'll have his 200th in round 24 which would be awesome.
If Harves is to be believed it will be one of Simpkin, Walsh, or Blake. Clarke's barely settled in and Gwilt's gone, I reckon we'll see Blake back in to steady the group.
As much as I'll be disappointed not to see more fresh faces, if Blake plays from here on in he'll have his 200th in round 24 which would be awesome.
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Im hoping this is the case...Junction Oval wrote:We can afford to test Lynch in the next two games to see whether he can hold down the position.
Showed enough in his recent matches to suggest he's ready to step up...
Plays forward in the 1's, backline in the VFL, so can adapt and be thrown around... Lynch is the way to go...
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Re: Discussion Saints v Crows
I agree with every single word. I never liked having Dal in the backline but now that Steven has taken his game to another level I think we can spare him in the engine room to full utilise his strengths.SainterK wrote: Out Gwilt
In from Lynch, Simpkin, Blake, Geary?
I'm going left field and saying
Out Gwilt In Geary (sub)
Dal to move back (I think we need his kicking skills) Armitage back into the middle
I think Jones might get Thompson, and Dempster to get Dangerfield?
Thoughts?
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referring to the OP, i generally agree except feel it's unlikely that geary will come in. although it does make sense given their smallish forward line (other than tippett). i reckon they will bring blake back, he was actually playing pretty well before dempster heat butted blake's knee.
has blake had a run in the VFL?
did they have a bye last week?
P.S. would love to see lynch come back in, especially for his positional flexibility
has blake had a run in the VFL?
did they have a bye last week?
P.S. would love to see lynch come back in, especially for his positional flexibility
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Eeryone seems to be fprgetting Tommy Walsh. Surely he has done enough to earn a game against the Crows!
Even in the game against the bullants, his last outing, he was better than Blake. He kicked the only goals kicked by his team for the game for heavens sake. and played in defence and in the ruck during the course of the game.
Even in the game against the bullants, his last outing, he was better than Blake. He kicked the only goals kicked by his team for the game for heavens sake. and played in defence and in the ruck during the course of the game.
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I think it will take a game where he can be carried if it goes pear shaped. He is still relatively new to the Aussie game and will be introduced slowly to the game to limit any mistakes he may make. My memory of his defence is him on the ground devastated as he had Essendon kick a goal on him in the NAB cup game. He isn't the same type as Gwilt is why most aren't calling for his introduction. Gwilt is a reliable midsized run and carry defender who is strong overhead and composed under pressure. Tommy Walsh is a tall emotional guy with limited experience who has been played away from the backline this year and is still mastering the game of Aussie Rules. I don't think we have forgotten and our hopes are that he becomes a star for us just doesn't look like the spot for him yet.
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My memory is that he was devastated by McQualter's fist to his head. It was either an attempt to spoil, or part of a devious plan to keep Walsh out of the team.gringo wrote:My memory of his defence is him on the ground devastated as he had Essendon kick a goal on him in the NAB cup game.
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I don't think anyone is forgetting him I think people realise Lyon goes with what he knows and is proven in the past.borderbarry wrote:Eeryone seems to be fprgetting Tommy Walsh. Surely he has done enough to earn a game against the Crows!
Even in the game against the bullants, his last outing, he was better than Blake. He kicked the only goals kicked by his team for the game for heavens sake. and played in defence and in the ruck during the course of the game.
Walsh is somewhat an unknown entity when it comes to playing in the St Kilda run on side.
Nothing against him but highly unlikely I would think.
Hope to see him get a go soon though.
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