Thanks Ross you bastard.Collingwood has rebuilt and redefined Luke Ball.
SHORTLY after arriving at Collingwood, Luke Ball set out on a two-kilometre time trial with his midfield teammates. They comfortably led him home.
Senior players stole worried glances with one another as they caught their breath. ''My God, what have we done?'' Nick Maxwell wrote in his diary published in the book One Grand Week.
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So one player makes him better? Well Misson and RL have left so they are no good now. I get it.bergholt wrote:yeah, it's an interesting one. we see misson as a great fitness guy blah blah blah, but obviously buttifant is better if the ball situation is anything to go by.Verdun66 wrote:Maybe Misson wasn't so clever after all......
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Ball is living proof of what a good coach, resources and patience can do.
RL is not a good coach (what quick fix coach is) .. his second rate recycled players (10 or so - some retired and some injury prone that we didn't get full value from) were never going to take us anywhere.
What about the kids we missed out on as a result ?.. RL you hack !
RL is not a good coach (what quick fix coach is) .. his second rate recycled players (10 or so - some retired and some injury prone that we didn't get full value from) were never going to take us anywhere.
What about the kids we missed out on as a result ?.. RL you hack !
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i think mission learned how to manage soft tissue injuries that jeopardised our flag hopes in 2004-6. i always thought they were due to playing regularly at etihad. the surface is no doubt improved, so we would have seen an improvement ourselves in that area anyway - but we have had a pretty good run with injuries these last few years. mission deserves credit for that. but yes, bally has been handled much better at collingwood. by coaching and fitness staff.
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I'm sure Misson is quite competent, but the Swans have continued to have a pretty charmed run with injuries since he left them: eg, consider how few games Goodes has missed with injury, notwithstanding the way he plays.
The reason for this is simple IMO: they play fewer games on the Docklands surface and they get to play more games than anybody else on the SCG: a postage stamp-sized playing surface (less running per game=less wear and tear) with typically the most lush covering of grass of any AFL ground. And the weather is typically warmer than in Melbourne, which also helps. The only downside is having to play some games on ANZ stadium, but the surface there wasn't all that bad until this year.
So the cult of Misson was always pretty silly, as was all the vitriol heaped on this forum on GT and Larcom and others about our injury problems in 2005-06, which occurred when the Docklands surface was at its very worst and we were not the only club affected.
Conditioners are useful, but they are not doctors and they are not magicians. They can get people fitter, help the injured stick to their rehab (althouth it is medical professionals who are crucial in designing the rehab regimes) and they can help players with chronic niggling injuries deal with pain and achieve more mobility. But they cannot effect the basic medical condition of players, nor can they do anything to prevent injuries caused by contact or landing in the wrong way. Nor can they reverse chronic long-term damage to joints, etc.
I have read a lot of stuff on here which suggests that guys like Misson can do something about problems that are fundamenally medical in nature. But I think that's all crap.
And I also think that there must have been a long-term improvement to Ball's medical condition which has enabled him to become more mobile and run faster. I refuse to believe that conditioners and training support staff can make a guy run 20% faster. What I would be prepared to believe is that he has been improving over the long term and was probably able to run harder than he was doing with us, but lacked the confidence to try it. The article kind of says this if you read it carefully.
The reason for this is simple IMO: they play fewer games on the Docklands surface and they get to play more games than anybody else on the SCG: a postage stamp-sized playing surface (less running per game=less wear and tear) with typically the most lush covering of grass of any AFL ground. And the weather is typically warmer than in Melbourne, which also helps. The only downside is having to play some games on ANZ stadium, but the surface there wasn't all that bad until this year.
So the cult of Misson was always pretty silly, as was all the vitriol heaped on this forum on GT and Larcom and others about our injury problems in 2005-06, which occurred when the Docklands surface was at its very worst and we were not the only club affected.
Conditioners are useful, but they are not doctors and they are not magicians. They can get people fitter, help the injured stick to their rehab (althouth it is medical professionals who are crucial in designing the rehab regimes) and they can help players with chronic niggling injuries deal with pain and achieve more mobility. But they cannot effect the basic medical condition of players, nor can they do anything to prevent injuries caused by contact or landing in the wrong way. Nor can they reverse chronic long-term damage to joints, etc.
I have read a lot of stuff on here which suggests that guys like Misson can do something about problems that are fundamenally medical in nature. But I think that's all crap.
And I also think that there must have been a long-term improvement to Ball's medical condition which has enabled him to become more mobile and run faster. I refuse to believe that conditioners and training support staff can make a guy run 20% faster. What I would be prepared to believe is that he has been improving over the long term and was probably able to run harder than he was doing with us, but lacked the confidence to try it. The article kind of says this if you read it carefully.
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You mean the Miss-iah!Verdun66 wrote:Maybe Misson wasn't so clever after all......
You blaspheme!
No one could get them to lift reps and limber their hamstrings like the Miss-iah!
NO ONE!!
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