Geary

battye · Post: # 1155443Post **battye** » Mon 03 Oct 2011 11:58pm

What will his role be in 2012? I barely know what his role was this year when he got a game. Run-with small defender in the mould of Baker?

He's played 50 odd games now yet I think he is still some way behind McEvoy or Steven who have played a similar amount or less.

Right now I'd say he is around position 21-24 on the list. My concern is that he doesn't have what it takes to become a mid-tier player (say 10-15) - and if he doesn't, then is his spot better occupied by someone else, like a new draftee?

bigcarl · Post: # 1155445Post **bigcarl** » Tue 04 Oct 2011 12:12am

Will be interesting to see how he and a lot of other players respond to the new guy, whoever he will be.

All bets are off.

Some will thrive under the new regime, others will go backwards.

We'll see. Exciting times.

DK27 · Post: # 1155456Post **DK27** » Tue 04 Oct 2011 12:38am

A few of these fringe players may get another year because this draft is considered pretty thin. Next years draft is meant to be great and has no GCS or GWS extra picks so I would do a big cull next year on fringe players and load up on kids then.

Love his attack on the footy but his disposal is terrible. He isn't that quick either.

Old Mate · Post: # 1155458Post **Old Mate** » Tue 04 Oct 2011 12:40am

He's never going to be a great player however he's a handy back pocket that's worth keeping. At least he's hard at it.

Munga · Post: # 1155468Post **Munga** » Tue 04 Oct 2011 1:02am

I have no doubt next year he will star and play every game....for Sandy.

kidding

mad saint guy · Tue 04 Oct 2011 2:11am

Early on he showed great tenacity and creativity as a wing/HF, though that was stamped out of him by the old regime which turned him into a strong-bodied plodding tagger. It's definitely worth hanging onto him to see if he can fulfill his early promise (is very handy around goals when given the chance), but if used as a negator I don't think he has any significant future.

dragit · Post: # 1155518Post **dragit** » Tue 04 Oct 2011 9:05am

I'll lay my cards out early and say that I am a Geary fan,

However even with this aside, I think we'd be mad to de-list our 21-24 best player, I mean there are always injuries and suspensions, maybe he is only a depth player, but you do need them too.

I'd certainly get rid of a few others before him and we've already freed up 5 spots?

St Loxton · Post: # 1155520Post **St Loxton** » Tue 04 Oct 2011 9:12am

would like to see an extra 3-5 kilos on him. Still think he can be a part player next year, but hoping our younger players go past him.

borderbarry · Tue 04 Oct 2011 10:25am

Hate to tell you this but next years draft is badly compromised too, as all the compensation type picks for players stolen by GWS and GCS will be taken.

Old Mate · Post: # 1155545Post **Old Mate** » Tue 04 Oct 2011 10:29am

borderbarry wrote:Hate to tell you this but next years draft is badly compromised too, as all the compensation type picks for players stolen by GWS and GCS will be taken.

a lot if depth and compo system wont work in favour of clubs like cats (for ablett) coz they finished high up.

8856brother · Tue 04 Oct 2011 10:39am

I'm sorry to say, I think if Geary is getting a game each week next year we will be struggling. For all his courage and attack on the ball, his kicking is just not up to it, and never will be. He is too old now to go from a terrible field kick to a good one. Hope I'm wrong but don't think I am.

BigMart · Post: # 1155561Post **BigMart** » Tue 04 Oct 2011 10:47am

Geary did a great job coming back after a broken leg, making the seniors and holding his place.....but his output was not great..

Has outstanding endurance...top 2 at stk

Very courageous....and quite hard at it.

Good overhead for his size....

Kicking is pretty poor, which is weird because when he first arrived in 2007 his kicking was very good, he played small fwd and midfield at Casey and occasionally down back and kicked it well...he often kicked out.....and threaded some nice goals..

Infact early doors he looked like a real find, was the pick of the youngsters....in 2009 he held his spot at 20yo in a super side in great form, and made excellent contributions....his Rising Star nomination was well justified and overdue..

One thing he can do is find the ball.....at vfl level he regularly gets over 30...in the afl he finds it easily and when he came on as a sub in a game this year he got a dozen in a quarter....

Like most of our kids....he need a shot of confidence only created by opportunity..

I would not write him off...

gringo · Post: # 1155575Post **gringo** » Tue 04 Oct 2011 11:11am

battye wrote:What will his role be in 2012? I barely know what his role was this year when he got a game. Run-with small defender in the mould of Baker?

He's played 50 odd games now yet I think he is still some way behind McEvoy or Steven who have played a similar amount or less.

Right now I'd say he is around position 21-24 on the list. My concern is that he doesn't have what it takes to become a mid-tier player (say 10-15) - and if he doesn't, then is his spot better occupied by someone else, like a new draftee?

I disagree, i think he is the type given time on the ground could become our 10th to 16 th best on the list. Heaps of up side, if Farren or Peake go there should be some opportunities for guys like Geary to get a starting spot. He is rare at the Saints in that he is in that middle tier in games and age. Geelong had a couple of guys in that category win a premiership.

Junction Oval · Tue 04 Oct 2011 9:35pm

It's a new year coming up, with new Coaches. It's his chance to show what he has and to capitalise on the opportunity.

joffaboy · Post: # 1156114Post **joffaboy** » Tue 04 Oct 2011 9:38pm

Never been a great fan of Geary however he is still relatively young and needs time to improve.

Jimmy Gwilt took time and was sorely missed after his knee injury.

Deserves time to develop.

FortiusQuoFidelius · Tue 04 Oct 2011 9:56pm

Old Mate wrote:
borderbarry wrote:Hate to tell you this but next years draft is badly compromised too, as all the compensation type picks for players stolen by GWS and GCS will be taken.
a lot if depth and compo system wont work in favour of clubs like cats (for ablett) coz they finished high up.

Compo picks are at the end of round 1 regardless of where a team finishes on the ladder

Bernard Shakey · Tue 04 Oct 2011 10:22pm

His disposal is shocking, turns it over like flipping pancakes. If he's to stay he needs to PM me and I'll teach him to kick.

Old Mate · Post: # 1156140Post **Old Mate** » Tue 04 Oct 2011 10:27pm

FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:
Old Mate wrote:
borderbarry wrote:Hate to tell you this but next years draft is badly compromised too, as all the compensation type picks for players stolen by GWS and GCS will be taken.
a lot if depth and compo system wont work in favour of clubs like cats (for ablett) coz they finished high up.
Compo picks are at the end of round 1 regardless of where a team finishes on the ladder

ey? doesn't band 1 mean the club get a pick after their first pick then another at the end of round 1?

saintsRrising · Wed 05 Oct 2011 12:57am

Geary is like a number of Saints in the 22...have many good qualities but are poor kicks.

Come 2012 for the Saints to prosper we have to get some better kicks into the team.

Now I doubt all will go...as again their are lots of good qualities.

But it is hard to imagine that all of Jones, Geary, Gilbert, Gram, Blake etc will be in the 22.

Gwilt is a good kick...so will come back.

Lenny will be back...so tat will force out two.

While Siposs has been thought of us a forward.....just imagine him off HB setting up play like Goddard does with his accurate kicking.

groupie1 · Post: # 1156226Post **groupie1** » Wed 05 Oct 2011 1:48am

saintsRrising wrote:Geary is like a number of Saints in the 22...have many good qualities but are poor kicks.

Come 2012 for the Saints to prosper we have to get some better kicks into the team.

Now I doubt all will go...as again their are lots of good qualities.

But it is hard to imagine that all of Jones, Geary, Gilbert, Gram, Blake etc will be in the 22.

Gwilt is a good kick...so will come back.

Lenny will be back...so tat will force out two.

While Siposs has been thought of us a forward.....just imagine him off HB setting up play like Goddard does with his accurate kicking.

I like your post, man. On the money in terms of getting ball skill into the team, replacing lack of ball skill - force the averages up. I liked that idea of Siposs on HB, for his use. And it puts it that the kid basically needs to play coz he can use the ball... wherever he ends up on the ground, ya need to play him in place of the butcherers.

widereceiver · Wed 05 Oct 2011 8:42am

Bernard Shakey wrote:His disposal is shocking, turns it over like flipping pancakes. If he's to stay he needs to PM me and I'll teach him to kick.

He ain't Robinson Crusoe, Bernard. Perhaps you could get a full-time position down at Seaford.

There are a few other clients.

gringo · Post: # 1156417Post **gringo** » Wed 05 Oct 2011 3:15pm

saintsRrising wrote:Geary is like a number of Saints in the 22...have many good qualities but are poor kicks.

Come 2012 for the Saints to prosper we have to get some better kicks into the team.

Now I doubt all will go...as again their are lots of good qualities.

But it is hard to imagine that all of Jones, Geary, Gilbert, Gram, Blake etc will be in the 22.

Gwilt is a good kick...so will come back.

Lenny will be back...so tat will force out two.

While Siposs has been thought of us a forward.....just imagine him off HB setting up play like Goddard does with his accurate kicking.

as someone said he was a good kick so I imagine he has to practice his composure under pressure rather than the action. We looked worse this season when we played on quickly and the intent didn't seem to spot up a team mate more just to pump it forward. That's why it seemed the backline players that were particularly bad.

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