Saints closer to signing players

[Moccha]

WITH a week to make the call to sign players, cut them or let them walk, St Kilda looks closer to securing some of its unsigned players.
Sean Dempster, third in last year's best and fairest and the highest priority among the out-of-contract Saints, is understood to have agreed in principle to a new contract. Dempster and the club are finalising the precise terms - two years or three - with an announcement expected next week.
Full-back Zac Dawson has yet to sign the new offer of a contract on reduced terms and could yet choose to delist himself from the Saints by the second list lodgment on Friday.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... z1ckELVwfl

[ace]

Peake has re-signed.

Dempster looking likely

Ray looking likely

Polo has no bargaining power.
After being delisted once, he can't risk going into another draft.

Raph Clarke has collected as much pay for being injured as he has for playing.
He wont want to risk the draft unless he has a firm offer from another club and that is not likely.

Blake also won't want to risk the draft, his choice is re-sign or retire.

Dawson probably won't take the pay cut, if he has a firm offer from Freo, expect him to skulk off to the West.

For all the players, it comes down to
1 have a firm offer from a rival club and go into the pre-season draft, or
2 re-sign for less money, or
3 retire

[SaintPav]

Peake has re-signed.

Dempster looking likely

Ray looking likely

Polo has no bargaining power.
After being delisted once, he can't risk going into another draft.

Raph Clarke has collected as much pay for being injured as he has for playing.
He wont want to risk the draft unless he has a firm offer from another club and that is not likely.

Blake also won't want to risk the draft, his choice is re-sign or retire.

Dawson probably won't take the pay cut, if he has a firm offer from Freo, expect him to skulk off to the West.

For all the players, it comes down to
1 have a firm offer from a rival club and go into the pre-season draft, or
2 re-sign for less money, or
3 retire

Do you actually have to sign a contract? Can't you just go month to month like when your lease expires on your rent? You probably can't becuase the system doesn't allow it but just putting it out there.

[stkildathunda]

This article states only Ray & Dawson out of contract, which is closer to the mark then The Age one.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/ ... for-peake/

Midfielder Brett Peake will continue his career with St Kilda after committing to a new contract.

The former Docker, whose 117-game AFL career included 75 at Fremantle, has signed a fresh deal to stay under coach Scott Watters.

It comes on the back of the 28-year-old's most consistent season, despite the Saints' slump from grand finalists to seventh this year.

His signing leaves WA's Farren Ray and defender Zac Dawson as the Saints yet to confirm their futures for 2012.

[saintsRrising]

Do you actually have to sign a contract? Can't you just go month to month like when your lease expires on your rent? You probably can't becuase the system doesn't allow it but just putting it out there.

You answered your own question.

The AFL has to be able to calculate that each Club's salary cap can be met.

They can and do prevent clubs from taking part in the pre-season draft unless a club can demonstrate that it has enough room in the salary cap.

[bobmurray]

Do you actually have to sign a contract? Can't you just go month to month like when your lease expires on your rent? You probably can't becuase the system doesn't allow it but just putting it out there.

You answered your own question.

The AFL has to be able to calculate that each Club's salary cap can be met.

They can and do prevent clubs from taking part in the pre-season draft unless a club can demonstrate that it has enough room in the salary cap.

Doubt whether our cap will allow us to take part in the pre-season draft..

will our Salary Cap issues affect how many rookies we will have in 2012

[stkildathunda]

Do you actually have to sign a contract? Can't you just go month to month like when your lease expires on your rent? You probably can't becuase the system doesn't allow it but just putting it out there.

You answered your own question.

The AFL has to be able to calculate that each Club's salary cap can be met.

They can and do prevent clubs from taking part in the pre-season draft unless a club can demonstrate that it has enough room in the salary cap.

Doubt whether our cap will allow us to take part in the pre-season draft..

will our Salary Cap issues affect how many rookies we will have in 2012

We are planning having 38 senior & 8 rookies on our list next year. Which is different to 40 & 6 this year. Means 6 national draft and rest rookies. But potentially 1 preseason pick aswell.

[bobmurray]

Do you actually have to sign a contract? Can't you just go month to month like when your lease expires on your rent? You probably can't becuase the system doesn't allow it but just putting it out there.

You answered your own question.

The AFL has to be able to calculate that each Club's salary cap can be met.

They can and do prevent clubs from taking part in the pre-season draft unless a club can demonstrate that it has enough room in the salary cap.

Doubt whether our cap will allow us to take part in the pre-season draft..

will our Salary Cap issues affect how many rookies we will have in 2012

We are planning having 38 senior & 8 rookies on our list next year. Which is different to 40 & 6 this year. Means 6 national draft and rest rookies. But potentially 1 preseason pick aswell.

We can plan all we want BUT they have to ALL fit within the CAP

[skeptic]

geeez I hope Raph signs


I seem to be hearing less about him then the others

[borderbarry]

If the article posted above is correct, Raph has already signed. I wish the club was a bit more open with their announcements about this sort of thing.

[clarky449]

geeez I hope Raph signs


I seem to be hearing less about him then the others

I dont because we cant win a premiership while he is in the team IMO

[SainterK]

geeez I hope Raph signs


I seem to be hearing less about him then the others

I dont because we cant win a premiership while he is in the team IMO

Silly comment.

Not only is it disrespectful, and inaccurate, but the notion of having 22 absolute guns in a side is fanciful stuff.

[clarky449]

geeez I hope Raph signs


I seem to be hearing less about him then the others

I dont because we cant win a premiership while he is in the team IMO

Silly comment.

Not only is it disrespectful, and inaccurate, but the notion of having 22 absolute guns in a side is fanciful stuff.

My opinion and how is it disrespectful? Sorry but Raph will not be in the next St Kila Premiership side. It is not just Raph as well. Of course you cant have 22 guns. Raph may play a good game every now. I am not a Raph Basher, i dont sit their in the stands and go off at him.

[saintspremiers]

geeez I hope Raph signs


I seem to be hearing less about him then the others

I dont because we cant win a premiership while he is in the team IMO

Racist comment.

[SainterK]

geeez I hope Raph signs


I seem to be hearing less about him then the others

I dont because we cant win a premiership while he is in the team IMO

Silly comment.

Not only is it disrespectful, and inaccurate, but the notion of having 22 absolute guns in a side is fanciful stuff.

My opinion and how is it disrespectful? Sorry but Raph will not be in the next St Kila Premiership side. It is not just Raph as well. Of course you cant have 22 guns. Raph may play a good game every now. I am not a Raph Basher, i dont sit their in the stands and go off at him.

Of course he could be in a premiership side?

I just don't get the concept that one guy can somehow prevent St Kilda from winning one.

Probably a thousand moments in 2009 and 2010 that defined each of those games, not one player, one toe poke, one miss kick.

[clarky449]

geeez I hope Raph signs


I seem to be hearing less about him then the others

I dont because we cant win a premiership while he is in the team IMO

Silly comment.

Not only is it disrespectful, and inaccurate, but the notion of having 22 absolute guns in a side is fanciful stuff.

My opinion and how is it disrespectful? Sorry but Raph will not be in the next St Kila Premiership side. It is not just Raph as well. Of course you cant have 22 guns. Raph may play a good game every now. I am not a Raph Basher, i dont sit their in the stands and go off at him.

Of course he could be in a premiership side?

I just don't get the concept that one guy can somehow prevent St Kilda from winning one.

Probably a thousand moments in 2009 and 2010 that defined each of those games, not one player, one toe poke, one miss kick.

We cant afford to have Raph have his mini mind slips and run around with no idea, or have him drop a simple chest mark. Raph does it more then everyone in the team. We wont win anything unless we inject speed, skill into the team, which is why for us to progress furthur next year the likes of Polo, Clarke cannot be an integral part of our 22 next year.

[8856brother]

geeez I hope Raph signs


I seem to be hearing less about him then the others

I dont because we cant win a premiership while he is in the team IMO

Silly comment.

Not only is it disrespectful, and inaccurate, but the notion of having 22 absolute guns in a side is fanciful stuff.

My opinion and how is it disrespectful? Sorry but Raph will not be in the next St Kila Premiership side. It is not just Raph as well. Of course you cant have 22 guns. Raph may play a good game every now. I am not a Raph Basher, i dont sit their in the stands and go off at him.

You would have looked like a right knob if we got a bit of luck over the past few years. He may have already been a one, or even two time premiership player already.

Wonder what you would be saying about him then. Anyone can rattle off premiership players from any year who are just averege players who got lucky. Look at some of the filth players from last year who are "premiership players" Their captain is just one.There are hundreds of them.

The Dermott Breraton attitude that you are no good unless you are a premiership player is a crock.

Sick of Raph bashers. Your comments prove you are just another one of them. The laughable thing is you don't even know it.

[skeptic]

geeez I hope Raph signs


I seem to be hearing less about him then the others

I dont because we cant win a premiership while he is in the team IMO

Silly comment.

Not only is it disrespectful, and inaccurate, but the notion of having 22 absolute guns in a side is fanciful stuff.

My opinion and how is it disrespectful? Sorry but Raph will not be in the next St Kila Premiership side. It is not just Raph as well. Of course you cant have 22 guns. Raph may play a good game every now. I am not a Raph Basher, i dont sit their in the stands and go off at him.

Of course he could be in a premiership side?

I just don't get the concept that one guy can somehow prevent St Kilda from winning one.

Probably a thousand moments in 2009 and 2010 that defined each of those games, not one player, one toe poke, one miss kick.

We cant afford to have Raph have his mini mind slips and run around with no idea, or have him drop a simple chest mark. Raph does it more then everyone in the team. We wont win anything unless we inject speed, skill into the team, which is why for us to progress furthur next year the likes of Polo, Clarke cannot be an integral part of our 22 next year.

he also does a lot of really good things that half the side isn't capable of doing hence why he gets games

[stkildathunda]

Do you actually have to sign a contract? Can't you just go month to month like when your lease expires on your rent? You probably can't becuase the system doesn't allow it but just putting it out there.

You answered your own question.

The AFL has to be able to calculate that each Club's salary cap can be met.

They can and do prevent clubs from taking part in the pre-season draft unless a club can demonstrate that it has enough room in the salary cap.

Doubt whether our cap will allow us to take part in the pre-season draft..

will our Salary Cap issues affect how many rookies we will have in 2012

We are planning having 38 senior & 8 rookies on our list next year. Which is different to 40 & 6 this year. Means 6 national draft and rest rookies. But potentially 1 preseason pick aswell.

We can plan all we want BUT they have to ALL fit within the CAP

Part of reason we are going with max amount of rookies. They are on min wages so dont cost much and help out our salary cap "issues"

[clarky449]

Ummm yeah we are a different team from 2009 and 2010 and Raph strived under the way we were playing. So because i have an opinion, i am a Raph Basher, it seems only good things can be said about our players. If Raph stays with us then Good Luck to him and i will continue to support him like i have done while he has been with us. Doesnt mean i cant have a view. Absolute Toss.

[clarky449]

Sick of people who cant handle a bit of criticism towards a player and who are down right imbecilic.

[saintbrat]

Sick of people who cant handle a bit of criticism towards a player and who are down right imbecilic.

and what qualicification do you have for labelling someone that

struth some all seeing all perfect supporters on here
But that is offensive. and NOT based on his heritage Just that Noone deserves to be called that.

yes maybe if it is Your style to critic an action or skill But I can gaurantee Raph Does not fit the criteria for imbecile..

[clarky449]

Sick of people who cant handle a bit of criticism towards a player and who are down right imbecilic.

and what qualicification do you have for labelling someone that

struth some all seeing all perfect supporters on here
But that is offensive. and NOT based on his heritage Just that Noone deserves to be called that.

yes maybe if it is Your style to critic an action or skill But I can gaurantee Raph Does not fit the criteria for imbecile..

No, i was joking because a poster above used the "sick of" card... I used the word "imbecilic" in general. I certainly wasnt calling Raph an imbecile.

[Con Gorozidis]

Sick of people who cant handle a bit of criticism towards a player and who are down right imbecilic.

and what qualicification do you have for labelling someone that

struth some all seeing all perfect supporters on here
But that is offensive. and NOT based on his heritage Just that Noone deserves to be called that.

yes maybe if it is Your style to critic an action or skill But I can gaurantee Raph Does not fit the criteria for imbecile..

im pretty sure clarky was calling posters imbecilic not raph.

[saintbrat]

Sick of people who cant handle a bit of criticism towards a player and who are down right imbecilic.

and what qualicification do you have for labelling someone that

struth some all seeing all perfect supporters on here
But that is offensive. and NOT based on his heritage Just that Noone deserves to be called that.

yes maybe if it is Your style to critic an action or skill But I can gaurantee Raph Does not fit the criteria for imbecile..

No, i was joking because a poster above used the "sick of" card... I used the word "imbecilic" in general. I certainly wasnt calling Raph an imbecile.

sorry clarky- just sick of words like that being thrown around without substance and in derogitory ways. - as some say if you wouldn't call your grandmother those words don't use them .

mis read your comment out of context and so makes me just as reactive I guess..