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Umpires won gain

Post: # 1219386Post Bayside Nick »

Cats were robbed by a weak 50m free in front of goal in a crucial part of the game. When will close games be decided by the players? Also, I'm tired of Collingwood fans booing at the opposition whenever they line up for goal or get a free kick.

Decided last year that I will never go to a Saints Collingwood game again. Awful atmosphere.


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Post: # 1219387Post dalboy »

The umpire didn't cost the cats the game. The 50mt penalty was there. The cats kicking cost them 5.12 in the second half.


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Post: # 1219390Post ShanghaiSaint »

both looked average tonight...


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Post: # 1219391Post OneEyedSainter77 »

Disagree with that. If anything josh hunt can be blamed for tackling him. Why take the risk, even late in the game.

But I do agree with your point about Collingwood supporters booing every opposition shot at goal. Absolutely disgusting sportsmanship.

Geelong played like absolute crap tonight. Made many turnovers. It was like watching us play three weeks ago.


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Was a 50m penalty every day of the week. Also had Swan not got injured Cats would not have got as close as they did. Overall I was just pleased it wasn't a draw, which would have been the worst result for us.


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Bayside Nick wrote:Cats were robbed by a weak 50m free in front of goal in a crucial part of the game. When will close games be decided by the players? Also, I'm tired of Collingwood fans booing at the opposition whenever they line up for goal or get a free kick.

Decided last year that I will never go to a Saints Collingwood game again. Awful atmosphere.



^ Did I honestly read that right? :shock:


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Post: # 1219397Post SainterK »

That was not the moment, had the ball in the forward half for most of the last quarter but couldn't kick a goal.

Stokes was immense, but nobody else looked like it.

Really makes you feel that footy is lending itself to smalls buzzing around to clean up....


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Post: # 1219399Post Rosco »

Couldn't buy an inside 50 mark in that last 10 minutes, plenty of opportunities


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Post: # 1219430Post saintspremiers »

ShanghaiSaint wrote:both looked average tonight...
Correct. We should have them both covered.


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Post: # 1219431Post stevie »

The 50 was there but it's still way too much of a penalty and has been for years. Bring in a 25 metre penalty


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Post: # 1219433Post Enrico_Misso »

Tom Hawkins is a total dud.
Cannot kick a pressure goal.

Dropped a chest mark in the goal square in the final minutes.


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Post: # 1219434Post saintspremiers »

Calais wrote:
Bayside Nick wrote:Cats were robbed by a weak 50m free in front of goal in a crucial part of the game. When will close games be decided by the players? Also, I'm tired of Collingwood fans booing at the opposition whenever they line up for goal or get a free kick.

Decided last year that I will never go to a Saints Collingwood game again. Awful atmosphere.



^ Did I honestly read that right? :shock:
Quite a typical softcock attitude that permeates through many Saints fans unfortunately.

Therein lies some of the reason for very poor turnouts at games by our fans, but still very impressive TV ratings for our games!


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Post: # 1219440Post CURLY »

The 50 was technically there. The massive issue is that ,would the 50 have been paid to us in the same situation? The answer is NO only a couple of weeks ago we saw BJ mark fifty out with a minute or so to go and the Freo player actually ran over and tackled him to the ground. No penalty and no goal to the Saints and we lose.


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Enrico_Misso wrote:Tom Hawkins is a total dud.
Cannot kick a pressure goal.

Dropped a chest mark in the goal square in the final minutes.

Wish we had a dud like that in our 2 GF's. At least you made an opinion after only one game. Next time make it a quarter of footy to really work out a player. What do stats say about duds in games. Anyway Geelong or the Pies cant win the flag this year because you only win it every 18 years.


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CURLY wrote:The 50 was technically there. The massive issue is that ,would the 50 have been paid to us in the same situation? The answer is NO only a couple of weeks ago we saw BJ mark fifty out with a minute or so to go and the Freo player actually ran over and tackled him to the ground. No penalty and no goal to the Saints and we lose.

It was more than technically there it was there and it would have been paid to any side if that umpire was umpiring in the same situation.


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Post: # 1219443Post CURLY »

plugger66 wrote:
CURLY wrote:The 50 was technically there. The massive issue is that ,would the 50 have been paid to us in the same situation? The answer is NO only a couple of weeks ago we saw BJ mark fifty out with a minute or so to go and the Freo player actually ran over and tackled him to the ground. No penalty and no goal to the Saints and we lose.

It was more than technically there it was there and it would have been paid to any side if that umpire was umpiring in the same situation.
So the Goddard one that cost us the game was a mistake then.


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CURLY wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
CURLY wrote:The 50 was technically there. The massive issue is that ,would the 50 have been paid to us in the same situation? The answer is NO only a couple of weeks ago we saw BJ mark fifty out with a minute or so to go and the Freo player actually ran over and tackled him to the ground. No penalty and no goal to the Saints and we lose.

It was more than technically there it was there and it would have been paid to any side if that umpire was umpiring in the same situation.
So the Goddard one that cost us the game was a mistake then.

Yes just like when we kick points or have clangers or give away frees that are correct decisions.


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Post: # 1219447Post perfectionist »

Matthew Scarlett didn't play.

On the 50, it is a bit hard to tell from the video. If Hunt grabbed with his hands, then it was 50. If he used his arms, then it was not, as he did not go over the mark. The umpire seemed to be in a position to tell.


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Here's an interesting article that says Fasolo admitted he milked it and was going to play on. http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

The penalty ruined the spectacle of a tight and thrilling finish. Let the players play I say.


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Bayside Nick wrote:Here's an interesting article that says Fasolo admitted he milked it and was going to play on. http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

The penalty ruined the spectacle of a tight and thrilling finish. Let the players play I say.

It doesnt matter what he was going to do it was 50 every day of the week and has to be paid otherwise every player would hold players up after a mark.


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OMG


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Post: # 1219465Post SainterK »

Like the Hunt 50 was 'the moment' anyhow.

They kept showing him on camera.

In the review, I'd be highlighting the many missed shots.


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Post: # 1219466Post mr six o'clock »

when decisions like this are made at the end of a game they are always highlighted !
Cats lost cos they missed their chances .
pies were the better team all night and deserved to win


Pies supporters are cavedwellers , but that should be a reason to go , to show that man has evolved .


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Post: # 1219473Post Dave McNamara »

mr six o'clock wrote:Pies supporters are cavedwellers , but that should be a reason to go , to show that man has evolved .
Dont forget the sewers... According to the late, great Captain Blood, they come out of the sewers to watch Collingwood play.

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Post: # 1219491Post gringo »

I didn't watch the game but was told by a collingwood supporter it was soft. If they play the same rules for everyone there isn't a problem. Stanley got 50 against him right in front of me in the hawks game and the umpire told him to step back then blew the whistle while he was looking at his feet stepping back. Just over zealous and extreme not necessary and not the spirit of the game.


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