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"Umpire that made mistake won't be dropped"

Post: # 1248650Post philtee »

Herald Sun this arvo...
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/umpire ... 6444778230

"FIELD umpire Dean Margetts will retain his place this week despite the AFL umpires department ruling his game-saving free kick
to Collingwood defender Harry O'Brien was a mistake.

Umpires director Jeff Gieschen said today it was an isolated mistake in an otherwise solid performance.

"We deemed it to be an unwarranted free kick to O'Brien. It was not a chop of the arms or interfering with the arms because there
was no contact to the arms,'' Gieschen said.

"If anything, Milne did turn and run with the flight of the ball with his eyes on his opponent, but the contact he made was very
minimal. There was not enough contact from the front to constitute a free kick.''

My 2 cents...O'Brien fluffed the mark mainly because Big Milney put the fear into him. And the umpire took a GUESS at
what had happened.

uh-oh...just saw this at the end of another thread.
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philtee wrote:Umpires director Jeff Gieschen said today it was an isolated mistake in an otherwise solid performance.
I calll bulls*** - deplorable display.......


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Post: # 1248676Post dalboy »

I will drop Dean Margetts with pleasure!


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Post: # 1248695Post Austinnn »

That's the way the AFL works; Z E R O accountability.

I don't blame umpires for us losing the game, but I will say that we got done over. But you don't criticise the AFL if you don't want trouble these days, that's been made very clear. They are too powerful, and that's always the danger with a socialist-shaped structure; if the top of the pyramid is rotten then there's little that can be done to eliminate it, short of all out revolution. They know they are safe as houses now and they're abusing their position.

Sounds hypocritical when I've railed about silly conspiracy theories as recently as 10 minutes ago, but while I don't think the AFL is out to get us specifically or favours the Pies as such, I think there is a bit of reciprocal backscratching going on and the clubs need to band together to lessen the power of the AFL.


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Post: # 1248715Post Teflon »

Agree re AFL powers... it's an inbred little industry with
junckets for mates. Just look at Dimwit already announcing McGlaughlin as the heir apparent.... while McGlaighlins brother lives off AFL media gigs with 7 and teeth whitening endorsements. Complete farce


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Post: # 1248732Post bigcarl »

Umpires director Jeff Gieschen said today it was an isolated mistake in an otherwise solid performance.
Everyone in football knows the actual truth that it was a deplorable mistake in an otherwise lamentable performance.

What Gieschen says is simply a bald-faced lie and fools no-one.


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bigcarl wrote:
Umpires director Jeff Gieschen said today it was an isolated mistake in an otherwise solid performance.
Everyone in football knows the actual truth that it was a deplorable mistake in an otherwise lamentable performance.

What Gieschen says is simply a bald-faced lie and fools no-one.

Can you tell us all of that umpires mistakes on Saturday night?


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Post: # 1248739Post bigcarl »

plugger66 wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
Umpires director Jeff Gieschen said today it was an isolated mistake in an otherwise solid performance.
Everyone in football knows the actual truth that it was a deplorable mistake in an otherwise lamentable performance.

What Gieschen says is simply a bald-faced lie and fools no-one.

Can you tell us all of that umpires mistakes on Saturday night?
If he's going to go around deciding who will play finals and who won't then he's got to be held accountable ... like everyone else is in this world.


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bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Everyone in football knows the actual truth that it was a deplorable mistake in an otherwise lamentable performance.

What Gieschen says is simply a bald-faced lie and fools no-one.

Can you tell us all of that umpires mistakes on Saturday night?
If he's going to go around deciding who will play finals and who won't then he's got to be held accountable ... like everyone else is in this world.[/quote]


So you drop an umpire on one error? So round 20 has not one umpire umpiring.


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Post: # 1248746Post ozrulestrace »

Because they haven't got the balls to send the umpires back to the Managatang Thirds?

So what is considered a bad enough performance to drop an umpire?

He could do the same thing again next week and know they won't do anything about it.


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Post: # 1248748Post bigcarl »

plugger66 wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Everyone in football knows the actual truth that it was a deplorable mistake in an otherwise lamentable performance.

What Gieschen says is simply a bald-faced lie and fools no-one.

Can you tell us all of that umpires mistakes on Saturday night?
If he's going to go around deciding who will play finals and who won't then he's got to be held accountable ... like everyone else is in this world.

So you drop an umpire on one error? So round 20 has not one umpire umpiring.[/quote]

As c**k ups go, it was a fairly major one.


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Post: # 1248750Post perfectionist »

The umpire should be dropped (along with Jack Steven).


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bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
bigcarl wrote:



Can you tell us all of that umpires mistakes on Saturday night?
If he's going to go around deciding who will play finals and who won't then he's got to be held accountable ... like everyone else is in this world.

So you drop an umpire on one error? So round 20 has not one umpire umpiring.
As c**k ups go, it was a fairly major one.[/quote]


So it is only mistakes in the last minute of close games that count. That should be good when GC play hawthorn. The umps can make 50 mistakes because it doesnt matter.


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Post: # 1248753Post bigcarl »

plugger66 wrote: So it is only mistakes in the last minute of close games that count. That should be good when GC play hawthorn. The umps can make 50 mistakes because it doesnt matter.
I didn't say that. I said it was a major c**k up and he should be held accountable.


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bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote: So it is only mistakes in the last minute of close games that count. That should be good when GC play hawthorn. The umps can make 50 mistakes because it doesnt matter.
I didn't say that. I said it was a major c**k up and he should be held accountable.

Who said he isnt. he may be on notice just as players are.


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plugger66 wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote: So it is only mistakes in the last minute of close games that count. That should be good when GC play hawthorn. The umps can make 50 mistakes because it doesnt matter.
I didn't say that. I said it was a major c**k up and he should be held accountable.

Who said he isnt. he may be on notice just as players are.
Which players are on notice? In your opinion?


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bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
I didn't say that. I said it was a major c**k up and he should be held accountable.

Who said he isnt. he may be on notice just as players are.
Which players are on notice? In your opinion?

Wouldnt have a clue. Do you know any arent?


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Post: # 1248762Post bigcarl »

plugger66 wrote:Wouldnt have a clue.
We agree :wink:


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Post: # 1248772Post stinger »

bigcarl wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Wouldnt have a clue.
We agree :wink:
plus one... :twisted:


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Post: # 1248774Post plugger66 »

Plus two. Very good stuff.


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Post: # 1248785Post SainterK »

Wasn't another mistake persay, more a desire to impose himself on the game....IMO....which if it was my department, I'd sit him out to learn it's not about you.


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SainterK wrote:Wasn't another mistake persay, more a desire to impose himself on the game....IMO....which if it was my department, I'd sit him out to learn it's not about you.

How do you know that?


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Post: # 1248788Post sippo »

Well they lost me (not that they ever really had me) when the cats were playing the cinderalla GWS at the cattery... a gws player kicked the ball 8 metres.... the cats player "complained", the ump said...... "it was close enough!!". HUH???


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plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:Wasn't another mistake persay, more a desire to impose himself on the game....IMO....which if it was my department, I'd sit him out to learn it's not about you.

How do you know that?
Know what?


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SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:Wasn't another mistake persay, more a desire to impose himself on the game....IMO....which if it was my department, I'd sit him out to learn it's not about you.

How do you know that?
Know what?

How do know it just wasnt a mistake? Did you speak to him after the game?


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