Port power

[Con Gorozidis]

If anyone has watched the last two Port games they'd be mighty impressed.

Talk about a blue print from basket case to success in a year or two.

Kochie as pres . Gun fitness guy. Ken Hinckley . Youth focus.
Their kids are skilful have hard bodies and play like they mean business .
Bloody great to watch .
Saints take note.

[Dr Spaceman]

If anyone has watched the last two Port games they'd be mighty impressed.

Talk about a blue print from basket case to success in a year or two.

Kochie as pres . Gun fitness guy. Ken Hinckley . Youth focus.
Their kids are skilful have hard bodies and play like they mean business .
Bloody great to watch .
Saints take note.

So you want us to steal Kochie?

[mullet]

Mel isnt doing anything

[Con Gorozidis]

If anyone has watched the last two Port games they'd be mighty impressed.

Talk about a blue print from basket case to success in a year or two.

Kochie as pres . Gun fitness guy. Ken Hinckley . Youth focus.
Their kids are skilful have hard bodies and play like they mean business .
Bloody great to watch .
Saints take note.

So you want us to steal Kochie?

I was thinking mel or whatever her name is.

But seriously the way their kids play is awesome.

[Buckets]

If anyone has watched the last two Port games they'd be mighty impressed.

Talk about a blue print from basket case to success in a year or two.

Kochie as pres . Gun fitness guy. Ken Hinckley . Youth focus.
Their kids are skilful have hard bodies and play like they mean business .
Bloody great to watch .
Saints take note.

So you want us to steal Kochie?

I was thinking mel or whatever her name is.

But seriously the way their kids play is awesome.

See the problem is that in terms of kids they only have probably 3-5 that are in their 1st or 2nd year. The majority makeup of the team have been playing for 3-5 years. Thats what can happen once the players get to that magical 70-100 games mark.

[Middo]

If anyone has watched the last two Port games they'd be mighty impressed.

Talk about a blue print from basket case to success in a year or two.

Kochie as pres . Gun fitness guy. Ken Hinckley . Youth focus.
Their kids are skilful have hard bodies and play like they mean business .
Bloody great to watch .
Saints take note.

Great point , if we top up with a couple of gun kids and maybe pick up a good free agent it can turn around pretty quickly if we have inprovement from the guys who have been on our list for 2/3 years ...

[dragit]

Exactly buckets.... People keep saying "look what can happen in a year - port"

The reality is that their rebuild has been happening for 5 years, more proof that it takes time. Port wouldn't be expecting to seriously challenge for another year or two yet.

Patience arsehoppers.

[southernsaint]

Spot on buckets. I would add though that our rebuild is into its second year starting with the 2011 draft boys

[Con Gorozidis]

See the problem is that in terms of kids they only have probably 3-5 that are in their 1st or 2nd year. The majority makeup of the team have been playing for 3-5 years. Thats what can happen once the players get to that magical 70-100 games mark.

Yep. For sure. Spot on. Its a 3-4 year process if you do everything right.

It can be a 10 year process if you do everything wrong (Hi Melbourne ) or a 20 year one if you do everything wrong repeatedly (Hi Richmond).

[southernsaint]

Exactly con

[spert]

Would they be playing like this if Primus was still coach?

[plugger66]

See the problem is that in terms of kids they only have probably 3-5 that are in their 1st or 2nd year. The majority makeup of the team have been playing for 3-5 years. Thats what can happen once the players get to that magical 70-100 games mark.

Yep. For sure. Spot on. Its a 3-4 year process if you do everything right.

It can be a 10 year process if you do everything wrong (Hi Melbourne ) or a 20 year one if you do everything wrong repeatedly (Hi Richmond).

Also people need to realise they had about 5 top 10 picks in that time. We havent had any so we are still away off. yes we may get a gun or two out of the last 2 years but you are much more likely with top 10 picks.

[Richter]

From http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tp-p ... 013&sby=15

A list of Port Adelaide players with more than 10 games under their belt and who are under 25 years old

1 Boak, Travis 120 games 24yr
43 Stewart, Daniel 36 games 24yr
23 Lobbe, Matthew 32 games 24yr
15 Stevenson, Lewis 18 games 23yr
7 Ebert, Brad 111 games 23yr
2 Hitchcock, Cameron 34 games 22yr
5 Broadbent, Matthew 68 games 22yr
8 Hartlett, Hamish 59 games 22yr
12 Trengove, Jackson 67 games 22yr
34 Redden, Jarrad 15 games 22yr
42 Jonas, Thomas 26 games 22yr
29 Pittard, Jasper 20 games 22yr
3 Heath, Campbell 12 games 22yr
26 Moore, Andrew 30 games 22yr
11 Butcher, John 15 games 21yr
13 O'Shea, Cameron 35 games 21yr
40 Young, Aaron 12 games 20yr
36 Hombsch, Jack 13 games 20yr
20 Wingard, Chad 32 games 19yr
32 Neade, Jake 12 games 19yr
16 Wines, Oliver 13 games 18yr

From http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tp-s ... 013&sby=15

A list of St Kilda players with more than 10 games under their belt and who are under 25 years old

8 Dennis-Lane, Trent 25 games 24yr
5 McEvoy, Ben 82 23yr
21 Saad, Ahmed 27 23yr
3 Steven, Jack 64 23yr
31 Simpkin, Tom 23 22yr
28 Stanley, Rhys 34 22yr
1 Hickey, Tom 17 22yr
17 Roberton, Dylan 50 22yr
2 Siposs, Arryn 23 20yr
16 Newnes, Jack 18 20yr
6 Ross, Sebastian 11 20yr

Can you spot the difference? We have to aim such that in 2017 our <25yo list looks like Port's does now.
It'll have Sippos, Newnes, Ross, Webster, Murdoch, Wright, Saunders near the top with 50-100 games and then another hopefully 10-15 or so players yet to be drafted underneath with maybe a couple of Markworth, Curren, Ferguson, Minchington, White and Pierce having stepped up enough to have grabbed a few games too.

[Con Gorozidis]

Yep - fair calls Richter + p66.
Saints need to be firm and clear and say Right - we need two down years (2013 and 14) and we need to make every post a winner and look toward 2015 and 2016 coming up the ladder.
Lets make it happen and start looking ahead. 2009 is over. That group of players - as great as they were had their chance, climbed the mountain but couldnt quite put the flag in the ground. Its over.