For those that say we should trade big boy!
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saintfox
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For those that say we should trade big boy!
Get a grip, this man has class written all over him future captain, kept us in it till half time....
Be the best you can ... If not have fun trying....
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I must need new glasses.
I love the kids work rate, I love his determination, but to me he is completely out of sync...leaps early...and not shaping up as the 'ruckman' I hoped he'd be.
Different story if you want to talk about his effectiveness around the ground.
Ben is a forward trapped in a 'big boy' body
I love the kids work rate, I love his determination, but to me he is completely out of sync...leaps early...and not shaping up as the 'ruckman' I hoped he'd be.
Different story if you want to talk about his effectiveness around the ground.
Ben is a forward trapped in a 'big boy' body
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Re: For those that say we should trade big boy!
He seems a better ruckman when he doesn't jump. Just stay on the ground and take position in front of the other ruckman.
And now he's actually getting forward and marking!
However, it's probably not his fault but for the third time this year he was the last man chasing down an opposition goal from a kick in.
It was great leadership pushing Armo off the ground when he'd been ko'd. He was in no condition to stay on. Great game all round.
And now he's actually getting forward and marking!
However, it's probably not his fault but for the third time this year he was the last man chasing down an opposition goal from a kick in.
It was great leadership pushing Armo off the ground when he'd been ko'd. He was in no condition to stay on. Great game all round.
Gehrig emerged from scans yesterday saying he was "as sweet as a bun"
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Re: For those that say we should trade big boy!
You are always very tough on him. I thought he was fantastic tonight. You don't miss him often. Get the impression he's not one of your favorites. Don't see too many comments from you about Geary's ball use.SainterK wrote:I must need new glasses.
I love the kids work rate, I love his determination, but to me he is completely out of sync...leaps early...and not shaping up as the 'ruckman' I hoped he'd be.
Different story if you want to talk about his effectiveness around the ground.
Ben is a forward trapped in a 'big boy' body
Ben is a ruckman IMO.
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Re: For those that say we should trade big boy!
I don't think I'm overly tough on him.8856brother wrote:You are always very tough on him. I thought he was fantastic tonight. You don't miss him often. Get the impression he's not one of your favorites. Don't see too many comments from you about Geary's ball use.SainterK wrote:I must need new glasses.
I love the kids work rate, I love his determination, but to me he is completely out of sync...leaps early...and not shaping up as the 'ruckman' I hoped he'd be.
Different story if you want to talk about his effectiveness around the ground.
Ben is a forward trapped in a 'big boy' body
Ben is a ruckman IMO.
He has great character, and drive...no question.
They need to get him a specialist coach or something, just don't know how he still doesn't have timing after this long.
I'd love to see him start in the 50 next week
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Ben is a good Ruckman (couple of poor weeks prior) and does what I like good ruckmen to do, take contested marks...
Centre taps = overrated stat
Only measured stat with no correlation to victory.... It's nice to win them, but even when you do.... Only 15-25% go to advantage....
Centre taps = overrated stat
Only measured stat with no correlation to victory.... It's nice to win them, but even when you do.... Only 15-25% go to advantage....
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Re: For those that say we should trade big boy!
Certainly would never trade him, as I think he can improve substainly
He hasn't set the world on fire in 2013'
Don't Think he's Captsin material either at this stage.
He hasn't set the world on fire in 2013'
Don't Think he's Captsin material either at this stage.
100 goals in 14 games...Lockett is the key
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Re: For those that say we should trade big boy!
Ben was much better tonight.
Hickey on the other hand struggled.
Hickey on the other hand struggled.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Re: For those that say we should trade big boy!
iiBigMart wrote:Ben is a good Ruckman (couple of poor weeks prior) and does what I like good ruckmen to do, take contested marks...
Centre taps = overrated stat
Only measured stat with no correlation to victory.... It's nice to win them, but even when you do.... Only 15-25% go to advantage....
True but how many premierships have been won without a dominate ruck. Not many.
Also Ben has not statistically improved since 2011 but if he can perform like he did tonight every night, then I wouldn't be on his back
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Re: For those that say we should trade big boy!
everyone else gives in too easilyHowever, it's probably not his fault but for the third time this year he was the last man chasing down an opposition goal from a kick in.
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How many premierships have been won without a dominant many positions?! Mids mainly?
Maybe look at correlation of AA Ruckman vs Premiership...
Greg Dear, Ryan Turnbull, John Barnes, Clarke Keating, not even sure about Hawthorn 08, Matthew Cauano...
Maybe look at correlation of AA Ruckman vs Premiership...
Greg Dear, Ryan Turnbull, John Barnes, Clarke Keating, not even sure about Hawthorn 08, Matthew Cauano...
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Re: For those that say we should trade big boy!
Be played well - but seems to play 1 good game 4 bad. 1 good 4 bad
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