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Maybe Burkie is onto something......

Post: # 1487763Post saintspremiers »

http://www.sen.com.au/inside-football-d ... oken/71000

Great article on SEN Inside Football.

I think he's actually nailed it!

Going to the footy is sterile in Victoria sadly. Might be family friendly but does need certain sections of hooligans.


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Couldn't agree more. When I compare the experience today with what we used to experience at Moorabbin.

It's a bit like the attempt to sterilise this website.


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Cairnsman wrote:Couldn't agree more. When I compare the experience today with what we used to experience at Moorabbin.

It's a bit like the attempt to sterilise this website.

I remember a pretty sub standard team with five players and nothing else from my Moorabbin days. Winmar, Locket, Harvey, Burke, Loewe, and plenty of ordinary mid or lower table placings.

What a remember for the past decade is plenty of great Saints teams with wins, a comfortable seat, a magnificient view of the game and great times.

The thing I don't like is the dumb time slots so we can now have wall to wall TV coverage.


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Post: # 1487781Post Beno88 »

That article is spot on. Going to the footy will never be like it used to be. Not only stadiums have been sterilized, fans have too. I never thought the day would come where you get strange looks for yelling out at the footy.


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Bunk_Moreland wrote:
Cairnsman wrote:Couldn't agree more. When I compare the experience today with what we used to experience at Moorabbin.

It's a bit like the attempt to sterilise this website.

I remember a pretty sub standard team with five players and nothing else from my Moorabbin days. Winmar, Locket, Harvey, Burke, Loewe, and plenty of ordinary mid or lower table placings.

What a remember for the past decade is plenty of great Saints teams with wins, a comfortable seat, a magnificient view of the game and great times.

The thing I don't like is the dumb time slots so we can now have wall to wall TV coverage.

Yep over time people seem to forget the 100 point floggings or getting that wet and cold you spent the next week in bed. There were days that I remember wishing the game was at the G but over time you just remember the day plugger won the game against Carlton. I also remember wool kicking a great goal against Brisbane and MG taking a great mark against Geelong both at Etihad. The ground seemed to be rocking on those nights.


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Post: # 1487783Post Beno88 »

Bunk_Moreland wrote:
Cairnsman wrote:Couldn't agree more. When I compare the experience today with what we used to experience at Moorabbin.

It's a bit like the attempt to sterilise this website.

I remember a pretty sub standard team with five players and nothing else from my Moorabbin days. Winmar, Locket, Harvey, Burke, Loewe, and plenty of ordinary mid or lower table placings.

What a remember for the past decade is plenty of great Saints teams with wins, a comfortable seat, a magnificient view of the game and great times.

The thing I don't like is the dumb time slots so we can now have wall to wall TV coverage.
That's more about timing than grounds and atmosphere. How do you compare 90-92 at Moorabbin to 00-02 at Docklands?


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Beno88 wrote:That article is spot on. Going to the footy will never be like it used to be. Not only stadiums have been sterilized, fans have too. I never thought the day would come where you get strange looks for yelling out at the footy.

Yes great days at local footy grounds

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hate the way the AFL has sterilized the crowd behavior.


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Beno88 wrote:
Bunk_Moreland wrote:
Cairnsman wrote:Couldn't agree more. When I compare the experience today with what we used to experience at Moorabbin.

It's a bit like the attempt to sterilise this website.

I remember a pretty sub standard team with five players and nothing else from my Moorabbin days. Winmar, Locket, Harvey, Burke, Loewe, and plenty of ordinary mid or lower table placings.

What a remember for the past decade is plenty of great Saints teams with wins, a comfortable seat, a magnificient view of the game and great times.

The thing I don't like is the dumb time slots so we can now have wall to wall TV coverage.
That's more about timing than grounds and atmosphere. How do you compare 90-92 at Moorabbin to 00-02 at Docklands?
Team in 90-92 was better, stadium in 00-02 at Docklands better. Both team and stadium better from late 2003 to about 2012


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It is like going to the theatre. Arrive just before the start, sit with little movement ,go home.

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Beno88 wrote:That article is spot on. Going to the footy will never be like it used to be. Not only stadiums have been sterilized, fans have too. I never thought the day would come where you get strange looks for yelling out at the footy.
Yep I never thought I'd see that too.

There are the do-gooder happy clapping silent majority that can't see the humour in exchanges like supporters such as P66 and Bigmart and the other colourful characters that exist in this world/website.

Better to exterminate the toxic element and make the world a boring bland and sterilised environment that looks good on Kleenex tissue and Wheatbix adds.

I agree with Bunk, I hate the way the AFL has sterilised the crowd behaviour.


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Post: # 1487798Post wally »

I went to the game on sat night and thought the same thing.
I was yelling out and barracking,nothing abusive or offensive,just carn saintas,work it out,well done, sort of stuff,in front of us was a couple
with a little girl (6?y.o.)who got startled once and looked around, I apologised but aren't you supposed to yell out support during play?
Maybe it was because it was pretty quiet.It is good to see kids there.
Is it going to turn into tennis,only make a noise between goals.
Metricon Stadium is a great venue but the crap that gets spewed out from the public address/big screen is so biased & horrible even if you followed
the suns you'd have to get annoyed, probably the way of the future though.


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I'd love to see some standing room return to both the 'G and Docklands. You only have to see how many people still stand behind the seating areas to gauge the popularity of this method of watching the game. I believe there are security and safety issues that may prevent it from happening. What I'd give to stand in the AE just one more time!


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It's just a shame it's taken people the best part of a decade about it,the damage is ingrained now. Go back this time 10 years ago and you would of heard me waffling on about it then, hate to see what I'll be like in 10 years time with it. By then it will be akin to a scene out of demolition man when you swear at Edihad...infringement machine will fly down from the roof "One code violation for bad language,please stay seated until you are apprehended"


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'n the grandkid asks

... what were U doing poppy
when the Last Gaspers were shapers of the peoples freedoms ?


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jonesy wrote:It's just a shame it's taken people the best part of a decade about it,the damage is ingrained now. Go back this time 10 years ago and you would of heard me waffling on about it then, hate to see what I'll be like in 10 years time with it. By then it will be akin to a scene out of demolition man when you swear at Edihad...infringement machine will fly down from the roof "One code violation for bad language,please stay seated until you are apprehended"
Almost like a strict game of 'Simon Says'...


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Bwhahahaha
.... i knew i liked u.

how funny. :D

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I was recently in Melbourne for the first time for years. Just for one weekend. I stayed with my friends in Newport and on Saturday afternoon wandered down to Spotswood to see ladder position #1 vs #2 in the WRFL.

A crowd of about 500 maybe. Stood in front of the 'Woodsmen'. The Spotswood regulars.

It was more entertaining, more real, more authentic, less manufactured than any AFL match I've been to in the last ten years.
There was no pre-game advertising schtick. No bloody ground announcer coming on the moment the siren sounds telling me the score.
"Hey F*** wit, I've been watching the game and marking the scores down in my $5 record, I know the bloody score. Can we even have a moments peace to contemplate what's gone before and what's to come?"
Nup. Fill every available second with commercial crap and club 'branding'. Just being the club isn't enough, we've got to 'sell the brand'.

At Spotty, at the end of each quarter there was time to get a a cup of hot chips and a coffee, people having conversations about the game or their lives, you could even wander out and stand in the huddle feeling like an interloper. I stood with Deer Park, whose team featured Brent Guerra, Ryan Houlihan, Ryan Hargrave, James Condos and Brett Thornton, (No wonder they're unbeaten on top of the ladder), partly to hear what the coach had to say and partly to just be amongst the atmosphere of the players and their world. Took me back to when I used to stand in a huddle surrounded by people, sucking oranges and having liniment rubbed on my calves, when I played.
Half time featured kids and dads running around playing kick to kick and having banana shots from impossible angles.
At the end of one quarter, I changed ends just so I could watch the battle between the Spotty backline and the Deer Park forwards, then half way through the next I wandered back around to where I'd started.

Romanticism I know, but this was real footy and the standard was pretty good. No commercialised, manufactured, homogenised bland out. Passionate supporters shouting out very politically incorrect things, a substantial amount of 'language' and you could hear the thwack of the hip and shoulders and boot to ball just a few metres over the boundary line.

I'm sorry, but I actually prefer that experience to going to the AFL.


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st.byron wrote:I was recently in Melbourne for the first time for years. Just for one weekend. I stayed with my friends in Newport and on Saturday afternoon wandered down to Spotswood to see ladder position #1 vs #2 in the WRFL.

A crowd of about 500 maybe. Stood in front of the 'Woodsmen'. The Spotswood regulars.

Don't agree with opinion St.Byron but Spotty was my local ground back in the 90's, just next to the Westgate.

Good to see you were in Gods country and in the proper place to be in Melbourne. From there down to Willy, and across to Altona is my favourite part of the whole bay.


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st.byron wrote:I was recently in Melbourne for the first time for years. Just for one weekend. I stayed with my friends in Newport and on Saturday afternoon wandered down to Spotswood to see ladder position #1 vs #2 in the WRFL.

A crowd of about 500 maybe. Stood in front of the 'Woodsmen'. The Spotswood regulars.

Don't agree with opinion St.Byron but Spotty was my local ground back in the 90's, just next to the Westgate.

Good to see you were in Gods country and in the proper place to be in Melbourne. From there down to Willy, and across to Altona is my favourite part of the whole bay.
Yes that's a lovely Area but no better than Brighton to Black Rock


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Here Billy Miller takes you on a tour of the grounds

https://www.youtube.com/user/bellestori ... lia/videos


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Post: # 1487837Post asiu »

cool ... 2nd time already today the millers get a mention.
maybe that means the great man himself may resurface on SS.
... legend.


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saintspremiers wrote:
Bunk_Moreland wrote:
st.byron wrote:I was recently in Melbourne for the first time for years. Just for one weekend. I stayed with my friends in Newport and on Saturday afternoon wandered down to Spotswood to see ladder position #1 vs #2 in the WRFL.

A crowd of about 500 maybe. Stood in front of the 'Woodsmen'. The Spotswood regulars.

Don't agree with opinion St.Byron but Spotty was my local ground back in the 90's, just next to the Westgate.

Good to see you were in Gods country and in the proper place to be in Melbourne. From there down to Willy, and across to Altona is my favourite part of the whole bay.
Yes that's a lovely Area but no better than Brighton to Black Rock

bulls***, Brighton to Black Rock is so crowded you cant move.

I live next door to the second largest coastal park on the bay, second only to Point Nepean.

We have oodles of free space, a great little bay village in Altona, a fantastic café area in Willy, and no Eastern Suburb tossers with their wanker attitudes.


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Principle of Q'uo wrote:cool ... 2nd time already today the millers get a mention.
maybe that means the great man himself may resurface on SS.
... legend.

I would be AOK with that.


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wally wrote:I went to the game on sat night and thought the same thing.
I was yelling out and barracking,nothing abusive or offensive,just carn saintas,work it out,well done, sort of stuff,in front of us was a couple
with a little girl (6?y.o.)who got startled once and looked around, I apologised but aren't you supposed to yell out support during play?
Maybe it was because it was pretty quiet.It is good to see kids there.
Is it going to turn into tennis,only make a noise between goals.
Metricon Stadium is a great venue but the crap that gets spewed out from the public address/big screen is so biased & horrible even if you followed
the suns you'd have to get annoyed, probably the way of the future though.
i just thought it was the queensland crowd ...so quiet that it takes the ground announcer to get the crowd to even cheer...and that bugle after ever suns goal is just f****** annoying.....as was the booing of rewoldt and the insults hurled his way by fat slobs who could never do or have done the things roo does.....


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saintspremiers wrote: Don't agree with opinion St.Byron but Spotty was my local ground back in the 90's, just next to the Westgate.

Good to see you were in Gods country and in the proper place to be in Melbourne. From there down to Willy, and across to Altona is my favourite part of the whole bay.
Yes that's a lovely Area but no better than Brighton to Black Rock[/quote]

Yeah but Brighton and Black Rock don't have 'eau de west', a unique fragrance I encounter every time I cross the West Gate Bridge.


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