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by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 8:01pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: MCG Saints
Replies: 13
Views: 393

Re: MCG Saints

Good move

Might as well get used to playing there

It'll be good practice for when we finally make another GF 😀
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 7:51pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Innovate or perish. Part 2
Replies: 26
Views: 491

Re: Innovative or perish. Part 2

takeaway, Staying conservative in your thinking is not the answer to St Kilda improving. Considering Brad Crouch as our 'best inside mid' is flawed. Windy was only in his second year, Sincs was only starting to be used in the middle and Steele was injured. Crouch is fading just as Seb Ross is. He a...
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 7:22pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Innovate or perish. Part 2
Replies: 26
Views: 491

Re: Innovate or perish. Part 2

takeaway, It's relevant because tony74 reckons Mich has poor disposal. The data points to Mich having higher contested possession percentages and STILL having higher disposal efficiency. You can be as dismissive and condescending as you like, it doesn't alter the stats Staying conservative in your t...
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 7:05pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Innovate or perish. Part 2
Replies: 26
Views: 491

Re: Innovative or perish. Part 2

This is very interesting data Scollop, thanks for gathering the data. I had also thought that Owens was blazing away a bit last year, so good to know it wasn't really any worse than other players. I agree, we should be giving time in the middle to our young players to develop them, especially while...
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 6:55pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Innovate or perish. Part 2
Replies: 26
Views: 491

Re: Innovative or perish. Part 2

Nice analysis. Cheers mate It doesn't make sense to say you can't use Owens because of his poor disposal, when you are currently using Crouch who has equally poor disposal We know Owens is still very raw. He has only played 40 games. He has upside. We have time on our hands to allow him to grow int...
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 6:38pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Innovate or perish. Part 2
Replies: 26
Views: 491

Re: Innovative or perish. Part 2

When is Part III coming out? Give it another 6 weeks Some of the people defending the coaching group will start their own threads with ideas and solutions Could even be you Devilhead :mrgreen: David King was rabbitting on about Lyon needing to put NWM in the middle. He said it on Fox Footy and repe...
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 6:29pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Innovate or perish. Part 2
Replies: 26
Views: 491

Innovate or perish. Part 2

The worst thing St Kilda could do right now is go backwards. I don't want to see a midfield with Seb, Steele and Crouch. I think there is a growing chorus of Saints supporters crying out for Owens to be used as an inside mid. I don't want him to be the second ruck. It's like the Blake Acres debate a...
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 5:49am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Changes for Dees game
Replies: 21
Views: 995

Re: Changes for Dees game

Out: Jones, Collard, Sharman and Paton

In: Higgins, Sebby, Skunk and Clark

I'd like to see both Lance boy and Coops play another game in the seniors. It's pointless bringing them in for just 1 game ...but we know what will probably happen
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 5:14am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Sack Lyon
Replies: 159
Views: 3656

Re: Sack Lyon

I put myself through watching the game on replay again. It's not too bad when you already know the result. Not as frustrating to watch 😎 Anyhow, I think our whole team is lacking energy and enthusiasm. It looks like a real grind and even a guy like Rowan (who usually flashes his pearly whites a coup...
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 5:01am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Bonner to Hill, Freo goal
Replies: 33
Views: 1000

Re: Bonner to Hill, Freo goal

Those insisting Hill wasn't at fault -- or at least the junior partner in this stuff-up -- might be right, as it's difficult to know for sure if anyone of Hill#s height could have marked Bonner's kick. Nevertheless, Hill has form in this area -- not straining bhimself if the delivery isn't centimet...
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 4:53am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Votes v Freo
Replies: 19
Views: 642

Re: Votes v Freo

5 Marshall 4 NWM 3 Sinclair 2 Wilson 1 Owens Hammer was good with his 2 goals and his ability to inspire his team mates. I watched the replay and was bemused when he was rewarded a free kick when it was actually King who was interfered with. There were 2 separate 1 on 1 battles going on about 10 m a...
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 1:31am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Sack Lyon
Replies: 159
Views: 3656

Re: Sack Lyon

All Teffers wants to do is pot the players He was bullish on the list in 2023, but now they're all duds bar a handful of players Our form and game style is all Robert Harvey's doing ...and the talentless players The lack of development and lack of confidence has nothing to do with the head coach app...
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 1:03am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Sack Lyon
Replies: 159
Views: 3656

Re: Sack Lyon

Thanks mate Amazed this clueless git can’t even listen to what was said and get it right … Ross hatred doth blindeth some … We'll see who the clueless git is soon enough. You have been bullish on Lyon ever since he first coached us...I get that. You're not alone. The problem I have and many others ...
by Scollop
Tue 21 May 2024 12:01am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Sack Lyon
Replies: 159
Views: 3656

Re: Sack Lyon

At the end of the day It was the 2014 draft that killed us I distinctly remember AR telling Elshaug we HAD to get the pick 1 right. He had concerns over Paddy’s weight and not overly dominating in is 18s year. Elshaugh was adamant he was our man. Hugh Goddard was a steal at pick 21 - did do an Achi...
by Scollop
Mon 20 May 2024 11:30pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: “Innovate or perish: Why the numbers just don't stack up for Ross Lyon“
Replies: 25
Views: 726

Re: “Innovate or perish: Why the numbers just don't stack up for Ross Lyon“

Because he’s a bull and has very poor disposal. We have bulls-Crouch, Steele but we need speed and skill. Steele used to be a bull. As soon as Ross arrived he's asked him to become a run with defensive tagger. He's changed his body shape to suit. Owens will improve his decision making and his handb...
by Scollop
Mon 20 May 2024 11:07pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: “Innovate or perish: Why the numbers just don't stack up for Ross Lyon“
Replies: 25
Views: 726

Re: “Innovate or perish: Why the numbers just don't stack up for Ross Lyon“

Fair Dinkum tony74. No accountability again from coach/coaches. Sounds like more excuses to me. Joey highlighted several incidents (FoxFooty 'First Crack' - the vision shows players in good position being ignored). Players were free and chose to kick long to 50/50 contests instead of handballing to ...
by Scollop
Mon 20 May 2024 7:00pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: “Innovate or perish: Why the numbers just don't stack up for Ross Lyon“
Replies: 25
Views: 726

Re: “Innovate or perish: Why the numbers just don't stack up for Ross Lyon“

Once we win the ball back from turnover we are bottom 4 for generating scores When we win the footy from turnovers anywhere forward of centre, we are bottom 2 for scoring. Our stoppage players either need to drive their legs and find space rather than kicking it blindly...or we need handballs to fin...
by Scollop
Mon 20 May 2024 6:04pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Sack Lyon
Replies: 159
Views: 3656

Re: Sack Lyon

So Teffers Are you saying he inherited a bad list Ipso facto Ratten had a poor list Meaning it wasn’t his coaching - it was the list then too… right?! Ratten's defensive systems were s*** and he didn't know where our List was at. So it had a bit to do with his coaching. In hindsight Richo was a bet...
by Scollop
Mon 20 May 2024 5:45pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Sack Lyon
Replies: 159
Views: 3656

Re: Sack Lyon

Really interesting take from Joey on First Crack Reckons ball transition isn’t our main issue Suggests the issue is we lack players with the ability in congestion, contested situations to take the ball from inside to outside aka why we rushed Dow in You are changing Joey's message His message was a...
by Scollop
Mon 20 May 2024 1:02pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Sack Lyon
Replies: 159
Views: 3656

Re: Sack Lyon

Really interesting take from Joey on First Crack Reckons ball transition isn’t our main issue Suggests the issue is we lack players with the ability in congestion, contested situations to take the ball from inside to outside aka why we rushed Dow in You are changing Joey's message His message was a...
by Scollop
Mon 20 May 2024 12:28pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: The Blame game
Replies: 21
Views: 700

Re: The Blame game

..Sharman should be played deep forward and left there for four or five games surely that opportunity has been given in spades, he's just not up to AFL standard. He stood up in a final last year and played a reasonably good game. What other AFL standard are you conjuring up? Obviously, you are stil...
by Scollop
Mon 20 May 2024 3:30am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Just get it going forward
Replies: 7
Views: 341

Re: Just get it going forward

Stop it S_D

Ross Lyon hater
by Scollop
Mon 20 May 2024 2:47am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: The Blame game
Replies: 21
Views: 700

Re: The Blame game

The same list didn't have these talent issues sitting top 4 last year. Building a premiership side is often like turning the titanic, but poor Ross seems to be steering it towards a bigger iceberg. A poster who is usually positive and who I rate on this forum I'd like to say the game plan sucks, bu...
by Scollop
Mon 20 May 2024 2:29am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Crab watch
Replies: 337
Views: 21789

Re: Crab watch

You do realise JB has kicked bags of 5 and 4 And has 30-40 Brownlow votes He’s not a super star But he ain’t no dud either - he’s had Best on Ground performances in the AFL He had a couple of shots on goal. Still hopeless. One didn't make the distance and was a wasted kick. The other was his standa...
by Scollop
Mon 20 May 2024 2:14am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Bonner to Hill, Freo goal
Replies: 33
Views: 1000

Re: Bonner to Hill, Freo goal

I get where you're coming from Moods. It wasn't an absolute shocker of a kick, but how many overhead marks does Hill take per game? That's not his strength is it? Anyhow... it's one incident. There are dozens of errors we can find in each game... even from some of our better players. I agree that Hi...