I was standing with Lenny's mum after that game in the change rooms.
He came over to her, started crying, gave her a hug and said to her "It's just not fair, mum".
I then started crying.

How are our tall back men faring please?
Loving the sound of Dunstan as far as ball winning and kicking goals.
A monty for Rd 1 you'd think.
Real worry with Hayes, Montagna, Steven out that we will get smashed in there.

Runs a bit like Silvagni. Seems to play both tall and small. Likes a goal.

If you lose games, players get annoyed, they look for others to blame, seldom themselves. If you lose games, coaches get sacked. If we start winning, everyone happy, if we keep losing, Watters gets sacked and more players will go at the end of the 2014 season. Simples.

How have we been agressive in trading? We have been aggressive in off loading established players but I want to see a trade where we land some young talent that others want. We have been aggressive in getting draft picks but anyone can do that if a window is closing but attracting quality is another...

At a push you could accept Monty to Ess, Crameri to Dogs, Dogs give us their first round pick and some other picks exchanged but then don't think Dogs willing to give up first rounder for Crameri.

Fisher to GWS for draft upgrade 3 to 1.
Thanks, that would be nice.

Gringo - great summary but please don't post again, we don't like considered reasoning here!!

Talking of HBF's, my Richmond mate says we are right into Jake Batchelor

Good discussion, thanks guys. To me, Watters has announced we need mid field depth and unless we really top up early with mid fielders surely a third round pick would be worth a punt. He's played AFL, is ready to go and its not like he has been an abject failure. While I'm at it, what about Ben Grif...

Apart from obvious issues with a hokey name, should we have some interest in delisted Sun Maverick Weller?
Midfield depth is needed with Hayes and Jones not going to be around much longer.

Stinger - Milera and Maister have just been re-signed!

That's abysmal. AFL team vs a VFL team!! Was it boys against men or something else? No Blake or Kosi I suppose of our bigger more experienced guys who have been playing 4 Sandy but really....

The fact is O'Brien basically sets himself up as a role model yet then resorts to name calling like those he is quick to judge.

What was absurd was 5 minutes later security came and asked, I assume mum, to come with them too. You'd think mum would have gone with her in the first place! "Just wanna watch the last bit Shaniqua, I'll pick you up from security later"! Thanks for your support mum! I was above the incide...

I just think it is great that the best players at Sandy now seem like up and coming players instead of mature aged players who can't get a game for the Saints. It looks like we recruit in a more structured way with a team balance and guys who can replace other players in the team rather than all the...

Loving the "Bob"!

We were almost premiers a couple of years ago. Fact. What great insight.

If Pedersen from North goes to Melbourne as I have read, does that increase the likelihood of Frawley to Saints?

That, sainter#4, would be a very very good trade period for us......
Hope you are right.

You will play every week at full back at a team that has been consistently in the finals, has recruited well, has excellent training facilities and you can learn off one of the great full backs in Max who is on the coaching panel.

Watters wouldn't even tell the player!!

Mate of a mate of a player says that Watters has told him that we have already done a deal with a KPP.
Now how's that for a rumour!

Any updates please?

Bob - he's walked I think.
Junction - yes, shocker of a loss...