New Linen House facility in Seaford - update and video

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jonesy wrote:The picture Seaford painted in my head was of a nice,slightly upper class bayside suburb,then I ventured into the housing market and saw it...

Wowee,that suburb would have to be the worst outer suburb in Melbourne. If it wasn't bayside you might as well burn it down. I got flash backs of some of the terrible streets I'd see when I was living in Darwin....at least Darwin has coconut trees and Gecko's to keep you amused.

Why would any of the players want to travel out there. It's common sense to not want to
LOL '"if it wasn't bayside" i think what you mean is "if it weren't bayside"
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Post: # 1015540Post saintspremiers »

Hey barks, I'm sure there is a brothel you could visit in Seaford.

Dunno what your obsession with St Kilda as a suburb is based on.

We haven't played there for nearly 50 years.

Get a grip!


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saintbrat wrote:For comparison the longest trip for Victorian Based clubs would supposedly be Geelong- and some players do live in Melbourne- I have just taken Port Melbourne as a ;point for referance- and knew that some Saints had lived in that area.

Port melbourne - Skilled Stadium
1 hour 8 mins Princes Fwy 73.6 km


Port Melbourne - Linen House Centre
47 min Eastlink and Monash Fwy 53.3 km
1 hour 6 mins Nepean Hwy 40.0 km
1 hour 14 mins Nepean Hwy and Beach Rd 43.3 km

Sandringham- Linen House Centre
42 mins Nepean Hwy 26.4 km
South Rd - Linen House center
44 mins Nepean Hwy 28.0 km
So Melbourne to Seaford is a tad shorter than Melbourne to Geelong and not 20 minutes as the SepticSaint suggested earlier.

In any case, the travel time wouldn't be so much of a big deal if the facility was as good as it gets.

That is the most pertinent point here IMO. Footballers will travel far and wide if it meant being paid top dollar to play for a successful club and a training centre is pivotal.

However, all things being equal, most footballers would pick an inner-city club over one based in Seaford.

Training centre costs after a quick google:

Adelaide - 21 million
Carlton - 19 million
North Melbourne - 15 million
St Kilda - 11 million

At least we're trying to stay in touch which is a good thing but I must admit a 20 million dollar facility would've been a massive statement from the club. Although, spending within our means is probably more important I guess.


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Post: # 1015544Post Bernard Shakey »

gringo wrote:The one thing about Seaford is it will be easy to park, living in the inner city is a pain in the arse when it comes to parking. You try parking anywhere near Visy and you're doing good. It takes 20 mins just to park around there.

If they could get Lin Fox to drop them in seaford in his copter we're all good.
You obviously haven't been there. There's nowhere to park.


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Post: # 1015545Post ChicagoSaint »

Like I said on the previous page, if you'd care to scroll back Sir,
I'd question the accuracy of the quoted figures on travel time.

1. Because I know for a fact that it takes less time than that quote and,
2. If we all relied on GPS and didn't take into account that things change over time we'd all be stuck in a blogging cave.

I maintain that Seaford to the CBD is approx. 21.5 mins

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3. It can be done in 10mins with no respect for the speed limit.
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Beej wrote:
saintbrat wrote:For comparison the longest trip for Victorian Based clubs would supposedly be Geelong- and some players do live in Melbourne- I have just taken Port Melbourne as a ;point for referance- and knew that some Saints had lived in that area.

Port melbourne - Skilled Stadium
1 hour 8 mins Princes Fwy 73.6 km


Port Melbourne - Linen House Centre
47 min Eastlink and Monash Fwy 53.3 km
1 hour 6 mins Nepean Hwy 40.0 km
1 hour 14 mins Nepean Hwy and Beach Rd 43.3 km

Sandringham- Linen House Centre
42 mins Nepean Hwy 26.4 km
South Rd - Linen House center
44 mins Nepean Hwy 28.0 km
So Melbourne to Seaford is a tad shorter than Melbourne to Geelong and not 20 minutes as the SepticSaint suggested earlier.

In any case, the travel time wouldn't be so much of a big deal if the facility was as good as it gets.

That is the most pertinent point here IMO. Footballers will travel far and wide if it meant being paid top dollar to play for a successful club and a training centre is pivotal.

However, all things being equal, most footballers would pick an inner-city club over one based in Seaford.

Training centre costs after a quick google:

Adelaide - 21 million
Carlton - 19 million
North Melbourne - 15 million
St Kilda - 11 million

At least we're trying to stay in touch which is a good thing but I must admit a 20 million dollar facility would've been a massive statement from the club. Although, spending within our means is probably more important I guess.
If bloody no-hopers North can spend 4 million more than us, you have to wonder.

I can only assume they will have better facilities than us, unless the costings include land acquisition.

But in the case of North, it's on Arden st, which is there turf, so I don't think that's the case.

Am I missing something???

How can North afford 4 million more debt than us????


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Seaford to the CBD can be done in 10mins with no respect for the speed limit.


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saintspremiers wrote:
Beej wrote:
saintbrat wrote:For comparison the longest trip for Victorian Based clubs would supposedly be Geelong- and some players do live in Melbourne- I have just taken Port Melbourne as a ;point for referance- and knew that some Saints had lived in that area.

Port melbourne - Skilled Stadium
1 hour 8 mins Princes Fwy 73.6 km


Port Melbourne - Linen House Centre
47 min Eastlink and Monash Fwy 53.3 km
1 hour 6 mins Nepean Hwy 40.0 km
1 hour 14 mins Nepean Hwy and Beach Rd 43.3 km

Sandringham- Linen House Centre
42 mins Nepean Hwy 26.4 km
South Rd - Linen House center
44 mins Nepean Hwy 28.0 km
So Melbourne to Seaford is a tad shorter than Melbourne to Geelong and not 20 minutes as the SepticSaint suggested earlier.

In any case, the travel time wouldn't be so much of a big deal if the facility was as good as it gets.

That is the most pertinent point here IMO. Footballers will travel far and wide if it meant being paid top dollar to play for a successful club and a training centre is pivotal.

However, all things being equal, most footballers would pick an inner-city club over one based in Seaford.

Training centre costs after a quick google:

Adelaide - 21 million
Carlton - 19 million
North Melbourne - 15 million
St Kilda - 11 million

At least we're trying to stay in touch which is a good thing but I must admit a 20 million dollar facility would've been a massive statement from the club. Although, spending within our means is probably more important I guess.
If bloody no-hopers North can spend 4 million more than us, you have to wonder.

I can only assume they will have better facilities than us, unless the costings include land acquisition.

But in the case of North, it's on Arden st, which is there turf, so I don't think that's the case.

Am I missing something???

How can North afford 4 million more debt than us????
did you see today the government announced a funding increase on the requirement that they share arden street with the melbourne tigers.

the tigers ROFL what a bunfight!


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Post: # 1015554Post saint75 »

saintspremiers wrote:
How can North afford 4 million more debt than us????
It is because they are almost broke and are constantly being bailed out by sympathetic non-supporters (take the membership drive 2 years ago) and being propped up by the AFL. Will be interesting to see whether or not they are in the red or the black this year. Also, as they don't have the exclusive use of the centre, quite a few other groups would be throwing money into the coffers for the build.

I would rather our club spend within their means as against running at a $5 million dollar loss like the Bulldogs.

Bigger and/or more expensive does not equate to 'better'.


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Post: # 1015555Post Dr Spaceman »

jonesy wrote:The picture Seaford painted in my head was of a nice,slightly upper class bayside suburb,then I ventured into the housing market and saw it...

Wowee,that suburb would have to be the worst outer suburb in Melbourne. If it wasn't bayside you might as well burn it down. I got flash backs of some of the terrible streets I'd see when I was living in Darwin....at least Darwin has coconut trees and Gecko's to keep you amused.

Why would any of the players want to travel out there. It's common sense to not want to
It's a training facility FFS!

No one asking any of the players to live there :roll:


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Post: # 1015556Post Beej »

saintspremiers wrote:
Beej wrote:
saintbrat wrote:For comparison the longest trip for Victorian Based clubs would supposedly be Geelong- and some players do live in Melbourne- I have just taken Port Melbourne as a ;point for referance- and knew that some Saints had lived in that area.

Port melbourne - Skilled Stadium
1 hour 8 mins Princes Fwy 73.6 km


Port Melbourne - Linen House Centre
47 min Eastlink and Monash Fwy 53.3 km
1 hour 6 mins Nepean Hwy 40.0 km
1 hour 14 mins Nepean Hwy and Beach Rd 43.3 km

Sandringham- Linen House Centre
42 mins Nepean Hwy 26.4 km
South Rd - Linen House center
44 mins Nepean Hwy 28.0 km
So Melbourne to Seaford is a tad shorter than Melbourne to Geelong and not 20 minutes as the SepticSaint suggested earlier.

In any case, the travel time wouldn't be so much of a big deal if the facility was as good as it gets.

That is the most pertinent point here IMO. Footballers will travel far and wide if it meant being paid top dollar to play for a successful club and a training centre is pivotal.

However, all things being equal, most footballers would pick an inner-city club over one based in Seaford.

Training centre costs after a quick google:

Adelaide - 21 million
Carlton - 19 million
North Melbourne - 15 million
St Kilda - 11 million

At least we're trying to stay in touch which is a good thing but I must admit a 20 million dollar facility would've been a massive statement from the club. Although, spending within our means is probably more important I guess.
If bloody no-hopers North can spend 4 million more than us, you have to wonder.

I can only assume they will have better facilities than us, unless the costings include land acquisition.

But in the case of North, it's on Arden st, which is there turf, so I don't think that's the case.

Am I missing something???

How can North afford 4 million more debt than us????
8 million of North's 15m facility will be funded by the government apparently.

Ours will be "funded by a four way partnership between the Club, Frankston City Council, State Government and AFL"


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saint75 wrote:I would rather our club spend within their means as against running at a $5 million dollar loss like the Bulldogs.

Bigger and/or more expensive does not equate to 'better'.
it doesn't matter, smorgen will pay for it wont he.........??


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Dr Spaceman wrote:
jonesy wrote:The picture Seaford painted in my head was of a nice,slightly upper class bayside suburb,then I ventured into the housing market and saw it...

Wowee,that suburb would have to be the worst outer suburb in Melbourne. If it wasn't bayside you might as well burn it down. I got flash backs of some of the terrible streets I'd see when I was living in Darwin....at least Darwin has coconut trees and Gecko's to keep you amused.

Why would any of the players want to travel out there. It's common sense to not want to
It's a training facility FFS!

No one asking any of the players to live there :roll:
Yeah, whether the area is good or bad is irrelevant IMO. It's the standard of the facility and travel time which is most important.

Some massive sporting clubs around the world are based in absolutely dire areas that make Seaford look like Monte Carlo.


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ChicagoSaint wrote:
saint75 wrote:I would rather our club spend within their means as against running at a $5 million dollar loss like the Bulldogs.

Bigger and/or more expensive does not equate to 'better'.
it doesn't matter, smorgen will pay for it wont he.........??
Who's smorgen? I know David Smorgon is the pres. :twisted:


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Post: # 1015561Post Bernard Shakey »

ChicagoSaint wrote:Like I said on the previous page, if you'd care to scroll back Sir,
I'd question the accuracy of the quoted figures on travel time.

1. Because I know for a fact that it takes less time than that quote and,
2. If we all relied on GPS and didn't take into account that things change over time we'd all be stuck in a blogging cave.

I maintain that Seaford to the CBD is approx. 21.5 mins

EDIT:
3. It can be done in 10mins with no respect for the speed limit.
CBD to Seaford cannot be done in 21.5 minutes, It is nearly 40km as the crow flies.
You are talking garbage.


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johnpeterbudgefanclub wrote:
ChicagoSaint wrote:
saint75 wrote:I would rather our club spend within their means as against running at a $5 million dollar loss like the Bulldogs.

Bigger and/or more expensive does not equate to 'better'.
it doesn't matter, smorgen will pay for it wont he.........??
Who's smorgen? I know David Smorgon is the pres. :twisted:
my bad. 2hrs online and i make one mistake. smorgo will pay for it........??


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Bernard Shakey wrote:
ChicagoSaint wrote:Like I said on the previous page, if you'd care to scroll back Sir,
I'd question the accuracy of the quoted figures on travel time.

1. Because I know for a fact that it takes less time than that quote and,
2. If we all relied on GPS and didn't take into account that things change over time we'd all be stuck in a blogging cave.

I maintain that Seaford to the CBD is approx. 21.5 mins

EDIT:
3. It can be done in 10mins with no respect for the speed limit.
CBD to Seaford cannot be done in 21.5 minutes, It is nearly 40km as the crow flies.
You are talking garbage.
Going via Eastlink and then the Monash i'd say 35 to 40 mins to the CBD
40-55 via the Frankston Fwy and then Nepean

Although you could reach most of the Southern and Eastern suburbs and most of the Peninsula within 30 mins.


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Bernard Shakey wrote:
ChicagoSaint wrote:Like I said on the previous page, if you'd care to scroll back Sir,
I'd question the accuracy of the quoted figures on travel time.

1. Because I know for a fact that it takes less time than that quote and,
2. If we all relied on GPS and didn't take into account that things change over time we'd all be stuck in a blogging cave.

I maintain that Seaford to the CBD is approx. 21.5 mins

EDIT:
3. It can be done in 10mins with no respect for the speed limit.
CBD to Seaford cannot be done in 21.5 minutes, It is nearly 40km as the crow flies.
You are talking garbage.
give me a high-powered kawasaki with fake plates and the quote is about 8 mins door2door.


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Bernard Shakey wrote:
gringo wrote:The one thing about Seaford is it will be easy to park, living in the inner city is a pain in the arse when it comes to parking. You try parking anywhere near Visy and you're doing good. It takes 20 mins just to park around there.

If they could get Lin Fox to drop them in seaford in his copter we're all good.
You obviously haven't been there. There's nowhere to park.
Absilutely right. THere is NO WAY they can have intraclub or a post match gathering like the other Sunday there

NO carpark like Moorabbin, far less street parking than Moorabbin, and the train station is 45 mins walk away id estimate

Im not knocking the facility..but its for training and nothing more


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Ice Wolf wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:
ChicagoSaint wrote:Like I said on the previous page, if you'd care to scroll back Sir,
I'd question the accuracy of the quoted figures on travel time.

1. Because I know for a fact that it takes less time than that quote and,
2. If we all relied on GPS and didn't take into account that things change over time we'd all be stuck in a blogging cave.

I maintain that Seaford to the CBD is approx. 21.5 mins

EDIT:
3. It can be done in 10mins with no respect for the speed limit.
CBD to Seaford cannot be done in 21.5 minutes, It is nearly 40km as the crow flies.
You are talking garbage.
Going via Eastlink and then the Monash i'd say 35 to 40 mins to the CBD
40-55 via the Frankston Fwy and then Nepean

Although you could reach most of the Southern and Eastern suburbs and most of the Peninsula within 30 mins.
'pends what time of day.
don't forget the extra lane on citylink and that flow is in opposite direction.
off-peak Seaford to CBD is under 30mins CBD to Seaford off-peak is approx. an extra 4mins.
it can not be forgotten that one experiences no traffic lights whatsoever.


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saint66au wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:
gringo wrote:The one thing about Seaford is it will be easy to park, living in the inner city is a pain in the arse when it comes to parking. You try parking anywhere near Visy and you're doing good. It takes 20 mins just to park around there.

If they could get Lin Fox to drop them in seaford in his copter we're all good.
You obviously haven't been there. There's nowhere to park.
Absilutely right. THere is NO WAY they can have intraclub or a post match gathering like the other Sunday there

NO carpark like Moorabbin, far less street parking than Moorabbin, and the train station is 45 mins walk away id estimate

Im not knocking the facility..but its for training and nothing more
you can have tacos at home then champ :wink:


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ChicagoSaint wrote:my bad. 2hrs online and i make one mistake.
that's what your old man said after he met your mum on Adult Matchmaker and had you.










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