Elshaug Appointed Recruiting Manager

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The advert radiates they want a lawyer.


I also note the references to the Tribunal, and that the club now wants us to have specialist to reresent the club in such matters. .

right down my alley...........if i was 15-20 years younger....

[SainterK]

Meanwhile, St Kilda has lost another senior official with the departure of recruiting manager John Peake.

After four years at Moorabbin, the highly rated scout resigned after Tuesday's rookie draft.

Although the circumstances are unclear, industry sources believe his relationship with coach Ross Lyon was a factor.

Peake is the sixth official to leave the club in six months.

They include four assistant coaches and list manager Matthew Drain.

The Saints confirmed Peake's exit in a statement yesterday, but did not mention his services while announcing former assistant coach Tony Elshaug as the replacement.

It is understood rival clubs plan to speak to Peake, who has 18 years' experience in AFL recruiting.

There was a surprise for St Kilda last month when it found out Jamie Cripps suffered diabetes, after it picked him with its first choice in the national draft.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/r ... 5967893605

[rodgerfox]

Although the circumstances are unclear, industry sources believe his relationship with coach Ross Lyon was a factor.

"You just can't work with the bloke" was what an ex-assistant was quoted as saying.

[SainterK]

Although the circumstances are unclear, industry sources believe his relationship with coach Ross Lyon was a factor.

"You just can't work with the bloke" was what an ex-assistant was quoted as saying.

Ah, so you are the 'industry source' ?

[Dr Spaceman]

Although the circumstances are unclear, industry sources believe his relationship with coach Ross Lyon was a factor.

"You just can't work with the bloke" was what an ex-assistant was quoted as saying.

Assistant coaches come and go, as do administrators.

If Ross was impossible to work for the players would be looking to get out; particularly as they’ll now have to make the long drive to unfashionable Seaford just to train under this despot.

And there's plenty of them. There’s um um, there’s um um, there’s um um..............

[InkerSaint]

Although the circumstances are unclear, industry sources believe his relationship with coach Ross Lyon was a factor.

"You just can't work with the bloke" was what an ex-assistant was quoted as saying.

Obviously not an opinion shared by Tony Elshaug.

Perhaps his work performance was a source of tension?

The continued recruitment of lowly skilled players who are brought in to play roles that don't require them to kick, is hurting.

Just set me straight - was that Peake's job?

[rodgerfox]

The continued recruitment of lowly skilled players who are brought in to play roles that don't require them to kick, is hurting.

Just set me straight - was that Peake's job?

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It seems that if they're any good, it was 'Ross'' job and he's a marvel.

If they turn out to be no good, it seems it was the recruiting guy's job, and poor old Ross is magically getting this horrible list that he's inherited to over-achieve.

If a reject plays a good game, then 'Ross' has shaped them. If they're rubbish then the recruiting guy erred and poor Ross is left to clean up the mess again.


That seems to be the way it works.

[SainterK]

The continued recruitment of lowly skilled players who are brought in to play roles that don't require them to kick, is hurting.

Just set me straight - was that Peake's job?

It seems that if they're any good, it was 'Ross'' job and he's a marvel.

If they turn out to be no good, it seems it was the recruiting guy's job, and poor old Ross is magically getting this horrible list that he's inherited to over-achieve.

If a reject plays a good game, then 'Ross' has shaped them. If they're rubbish then the recruiting guy erred and poor Ross is left to clean up the mess again.


That seems to be the way it works.

Just as well we have you, to restore the balance.

[InkerSaint]

It seems that if they're any good, it was 'Ross'' job and he's a marvel.

If they turn out to be no good, it seems it was the recruiting guy's job, and poor old Ross is magically getting this horrible list that he's inherited to over-achieve.

If a reject plays a good game, then 'Ross' has shaped them. If they're rubbish then the recruiting guy erred and poor Ross is left to clean up the mess again.


That seems to be the way it works.

And these attributions come from who, exactly?

From your alleged "reliable source", no doubt.

[rodgerfox]

Although the circumstances are unclear, industry sources believe his relationship with coach Ross Lyon was a factor.

"You just can't work with the bloke" was what an ex-assistant was quoted as saying.

Ah, so you are the 'industry source' ?

I highly doubt it.

For a start, I don't work in the industry.


It's just sad that through stubborness and ego I can see one of the best groups of talent I've ever seen being wasted.

[rodgerfox]

It seems that if they're any good, it was 'Ross'' job and he's a marvel.

If they turn out to be no good, it seems it was the recruiting guy's job, and poor old Ross is magically getting this horrible list that he's inherited to over-achieve.

If a reject plays a good game, then 'Ross' has shaped them. If they're rubbish then the recruiting guy erred and poor Ross is left to clean up the mess again.


That seems to be the way it works.

And these attributions come from who, exactly?

From your alleged "reliable source", no doubt.

They come from posters on this site.

And anyone who disagrees or sees something slightly more balanced and realisitic, is shouted down and belittled.


And why have you used quotation marks around "reliable source"? Are you quoting someone? If so, whom?

[Dr Spaceman]

It seems that if they're any good, it was 'Ross'' job and he's a marvel.

If they turn out to be no good, it seems it was the recruiting guy's job, and poor old Ross is magically getting this horrible list that he's inherited to over-achieve.

If a reject plays a good game, then 'Ross' has shaped them. If they're rubbish then the recruiting guy erred and poor Ross is left to clean up the mess again.


That seems to be the way it works.

And these attributions come from who, exactly?

From your alleged "reliable source", no doubt.

WikiLeaks???

[SainterK]

And anyone who disagrees or sees something slightly more balanced and realisitic, is shouted down and belittled.

Curious, how do you feel you respond to people with a different view to your own?

[rodgerfox]

And anyone who disagrees or sees something slightly more balanced and realisitic, is shouted down and belittled.

Curious, how do you feel you respond to people with an different view to your own?

One thing is for sure, I don't make sarcastic, smart arrse responses with emoticons to other posters in order to drum up support against the poster I disagree with.

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[SainterK]

One thing is for sure, I don't make sarcastic, smart arrse responses

Oh you do, and often...

I am happy to discuss footy with you though.

Why would Harves have remained in contact, and then come back....why on earth would Kingy hang around?

I am sure Ross is difficult to work with, most bosses I have ever been employed by are....

I just don't get why it's being made out that this kind of behaviour is exclusive to Ross, and that he tearing the club apart by being driven?

[rodgerfox]

Why would Harves have remained in contact, and then come back....why on earth would Kingy hang around?

I am sure Ross is difficult to work with, most bosses I have ever been employed by are....

I just don't get why it's being made out that this kind of behaviour is exclusive to Ross, and that he tearing the club apart by being driven?

Have we just flashed back in time to 2006??

[InkerSaint]

They come from posters on this site.

Then there must be plenty of examples. Please provide just a single attribution?

And anyone who disagrees or sees something slightly more balanced and realisitic, is shouted down and belittled.

Would that be yourself? Spare me the violins, will you?

And why have you used quotation marks around "reliable source"? Are you quoting someone? If so, whom?

The quotes are simply there to emphasise inference. But I concede this is unnecessary. Nobody reading this actually believes you have a reputable source.

[SainterK]

Why would Harves have remained in contact, and then come back....why on earth would Kingy hang around?

I am sure Ross is difficult to work with, most bosses I have ever been employed by are....

I just don't get why it's being made out that this kind of behaviour is exclusive to Ross, and that he tearing the club apart by being driven?

Have we just flashed back in time to 2006??

Not sure what you mean?

[rodgerfox]

And why have you used quotation marks around "reliable source"? Are you quoting someone? If so, whom?

The quotes are simply there to emphasise inference. But I concede this is unnecessary. Nobody reading this actually believes you have a reputable source.

??

Now it's a "reputable source"??

Care to elaborate on what you're talking about here?

[rodgerfox]

Why would Harves have remained in contact, and then come back....why on earth would Kingy hang around?

I am sure Ross is difficult to work with, most bosses I have ever been employed by are....

I just don't get why it's being made out that this kind of behaviour is exclusive to Ross, and that he tearing the club apart by being driven?

Have we just flashed back in time to 2006??

Not sure what you mean?

Just felt like I was in a time warp back to when GT was in charge and assistants left the club.

That was apparently becuase has was an egomaniac that no one could work with who was too stubborn to change his methods.


Just seemed odd that the same discussion - albeit the opposing view from the same people, is taking place 4 years later!

[SainterK]

Why would Harves have remained in contact, and then come back....why on earth would Kingy hang around?

I am sure Ross is difficult to work with, most bosses I have ever been employed by are....

I just don't get why it's being made out that this kind of behaviour is exclusive to Ross, and that he tearing the club apart by being driven?

Have we just flashed back in time to 2006??

Not sure what you mean?

Just felt like I was in a time warp back to when GT was in charge and assistants left the club.

That was apparently becuase has was an egomaniac that no one could work with who was too stubborn to change his methods.


Just seemed odd that the same discussion - albeit the opposing view from the same people, is taking place 4 years later!

Oh OK, only been posting on here a couple of years....didn't understand your reference.

I can't really remember exactly, how were the Saints travelling at the time GT's assistants left?

[asiu]

odd you say rf ?



a time warp indeed.












time wounds all heals , alright !!

[SainterK]

A story of it's own now...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 5968193304

[chook23]

Not the style of our Pres......

but surely given the inference of the article.....

by the journo....tying all depatures together....then also adding the according to sources line

Club in dissaray feel to the article....(journo driven)


THAT the Club via Westaway make a strong statement etc