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Great read on Watters - The West

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Real insight into how he arrived here.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/ ... d-reasons/


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good read- I'm still pleased he uses the ' We'


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Makes me very excited about next season.


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Good read


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Post: # 1167959Post Dr Spaceman »

People were worried about all the good coaches being taken and yet we got this fine young man.

For that reason I refuse to get jittery about the Assistant Coach positions.

Scott is widely admired and has contacts and a tremendous reputation.

We'll be right :wink:


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Yes, I think that we have a quality person and a very good communicator and footy operator in the new Coach. Well done to the Coaching Panel.

On reading the article, there are several career stints that fit well with where the Saints are at the moment. It's probably the first year in a while (except 2009), that I have been excited about the year ahead. It won't be an easy year, but I have a feeling that we are in good hands.


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Post: # 1167974Post saint patrick »

Thanks for that sainterK ..Just reinforces to me that they chose the right bloke and why we have a reason to get excited again :D


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But we want to chase as hard as we can and we want to establish ourselves as the year unfolds as being a really hard side.
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Post: # 1167977Post GoTheTorp »

I have to say that up until the final interviews i had no idea who would be best for the club, but then this guy kept popping up. A mate told me to put my money on him hes in, a very reliable source normally, he said his presentation was apparently streets ahead of the rest of the field, and so my confidence grew. I now accept that hes the best man for the job ,and Sir Robert has done the right thing by moving on so to be learning more about the game, and that he wouldnt have been wandering around the club that he bleeds for and not getting the education required to be the best coach that he wants to be. Banger will back with a vengeance in 3 yrs or so, but for now Scott Watters puts some excitement back into my veins. The assistants he hires the players he keeps or lets go, his recruiting from here on and of course his ideals make this an exciting time.

I have worked with young and older prisoners, some hard core and some who have just stepped over the line enough to regret it. You have to give them all the same amount of time and you try and instill some values in all of them, even if just a little that can be rubbed off onto them and with out playing Mother Theresa. It seems this has been a great part of Scotts learning curve into human nature and its good and very bad sides and he should be able to impart a player code of conduct that should be adhered to, behave and alls good step out of line and you wear it like a sledge hammer but we can talk it over.

Cant wait for the new era to begin 8-)


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Interesting article about Scott. I was struck by this sentence: "He's very much about collecting good ideas and working out how to deliver them to his player base. He's a very good communicator with his people." That assessment (that he "collects" good ideas) strikes me as spot on since in talking about his game plan (which in essence is to use Siposs, Cripps and Ledger to build new avenues of attack while still maintaining a strong defence) I haven't heard him say anything which I haven't heard Ross say before.

All that is fine, but my query is this. As a collector and communicator of good ideas, Scott needs someone to generate or invent those ideas for him. That is why (if reports are to be believed) he's pushing for Dean Laidley to step in as Director of Coaching. But how good is Laidley? Is he creative, or just analytical? Are his judgments reliable? Personally I haven't a clue. And I find myself continually vacillating on this question.


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Post: # 1167992Post bigcarl »

Those years working at the Banksia Hill Detention Centre would have been worth their weight in gold during his time at Collingwood.

Good read. Thanks.


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Post: # 1167995Post Zed »

sounds like a really well rounded person. Hopefully will be able to bring some balance and perspective into lhe lives of some of our players and make them realise what they have got is a very special opportunity in life


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Post: # 1168012Post HitTheBoundary »

Watters sounds like a wonderful person, a good bloke, and a good leader.

Geez, I hope he can coach.


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crippa2sipa wrote:
All that is fine, but my query is this. As a collector and communicator of good ideas, Scott needs someone to generate or invent those ideas for him. That is why (if reports are to be believed) he's pushing for Dean Laidley to step in as Director of Coaching. But how good is Laidley? Is he creative, or just analytical? Are his judgments reliable? Personally I haven't a clue. And I find myself continually vacillating on this question.
Thats a big assumption.

Lyon took others ideas also - used them in another way.IF Watters can do that...that'll go along way tactically.

Right now we need more development than tactical tbh - gotta bring some kids along.


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Teflon wrote:
crippa2sipa wrote:
All that is fine, but my query is this. As a collector and communicator of good ideas, Scott needs someone to generate or invent those ideas for him. That is why (if reports are to be believed) he's pushing for Dean Laidley to step in as Director of Coaching. But how good is Laidley? Is he creative, or just analytical? Are his judgments reliable? Personally I haven't a clue. And I find myself continually vacillating on this question.
Thats a big assumption.

Lyon took others ideas also - used them in another way.IF Watters can do that...that'll go along way tactically.

Right now we need more development than tactical tbh - gotta bring some kids along.
If Watters feels he needs Laidley to direct his coaching then surely it's to address his own perceived deficiency in the strategy and tactics department. Of course, reports that Watters is desperate to have Laidley as his Director of Coaching could be wrong - and in a way I hope they are - but if not it's fair to ask whether Laidley is any good.


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crippa2sipa wrote:
Teflon wrote:
crippa2sipa wrote:
All that is fine, but my query is this. As a collector and communicator of good ideas, Scott needs someone to generate or invent those ideas for him. That is why (if reports are to be believed) he's pushing for Dean Laidley to step in as Director of Coaching. But how good is Laidley? Is he creative, or just analytical? Are his judgments reliable? Personally I haven't a clue. And I find myself continually vacillating on this question.
Thats a big assumption.

Lyon took others ideas also - used them in another way.IF Watters can do that...that'll go along way tactically.

Right now we need more development than tactical tbh - gotta bring some kids along.
If Watters feels he needs Laidley to direct his coaching then surely it's to address his own perceived deficiency in the strategy and tactics department. Of course, reports that Watters is desperate to have Laidley as his Director of Coaching could be wrong - and in a way I hope they are - but if not it's fair to ask whether Laidley is any good.
why does Watters have to be deficient in tactics?
why coldnt him wanting Laidley be about adding to his strength in that area already - from all reports Watters is renowned for being good tactically?

I dont get why Watters has to be bad tactically just cause he may/may not want Laidley?


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HitTheBoundary wrote:Watters sounds like a wonderful person, a good bloke, and a good leader.

Geez, I hope he can coach.
that last line is all that I care about as not all good blokes can coach !!!!

Let's hope with Watters that 2012 and beyond can give us the result we are all still searching for.


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Post: # 1168230Post InkerSaint »

Who says there are any new ideas in football?


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