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Post: # 1176170Post damienc »

It's interesting to note that the powers that be at St Kilda talk about re-building the club. I heard from an impeccable source that some years ago St Kilda could have recruited Chris Judd. Yes you heard right. But instead opted for David Armitage. An interesting choice to say the least. I venture to suggest Judd would have helped us win at least one and possibly two premierships. Oh the pain !!!


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damienc wrote:It's interesting to note that the powers that be at St Kilda talk about re-building the club. I heard from an impeccable source that some years ago St Kilda could have recruited Chris Judd. Yes you heard right. But instead opted for David Armitage. An interesting choice to say the least. I venture to suggest Judd would have helped us win at least one and possibly two premierships. Oh the pain !!!

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damienc wrote:It's interesting to note that the powers that be at St Kilda talk about re-building the club. I heard from an impeccable source that some years ago St Kilda could have recruited Chris Judd. Yes you heard right. But instead opted for David Armitage. An interesting choice to say the least. I venture to suggest Judd would have helped us win at least one and possibly two premierships. Oh the pain !!!
Armitage was recruited in the 2006 draft and Judd was recruited in the 2001 draft so your source sounds impeccable but none the less, a magnificent first post...I look forward to more from you.


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Post: # 1176175Post Sick Nal Danto »

This is quite funny to say the least

Are you confusing Armitage with Luke Ball ?


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Post: # 1176177Post damienc »

He went to Carlton in 2007. But I do love the sarcasm.


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Post: # 1176179Post damienc »

Armitage came to St Kilda in 2006. Judd went to Carlton in 2007. You do the maths.


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It's not funny. It's a tragedy.


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Post: # 1176191Post saintnick12 »

And what money were we going to pay with with.

And how were we going to keep him, Roo, BJ, Dal, Lenny, Joey etc under the salary cap. Just simply not possible.


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Post: # 1176199Post damienc »

With a player of Judd's quality you would find a way. In any case that with the greatest respect is NOT the issue. The point I am making is that St Kilda chose Armitage over Judd.


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saintnick12 wrote:And what money were we going to pay with with.

And how were we going to keep him, Roo, BJ, Dal, Lenny, Joey etc under the salary cap. Just simply not possible.
We could have asked a pratt at Visy to pay his salary.

But then the AFL would have declared the payment illegal if it was for St Kilda's benefit.


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damienc wrote:With a player of Judd's quality you would find a way. In any case that with the greatest respect is NOT the issue. The point I am making is that St Kilda chose Armitage over Judd.
Armitage was chosenin the draft and Judd was never going to make it to the draft. He was always going to be traded. We did not have high enough draft picks in that trade period to interest WCE. Also Judd was doing the interviewing - he chose his own club, and he had no interest in us. He needed to go to a club that could get the big deal done. Saints were never going to be able to do that with what we already had on our list at top dollar. We never had the option of choosing Judd.

The Armitage over Judd thing is not a direct comparison....

Ball over Judd way back in 01 is a different story....


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damienc wrote:With a player of Judd's quality you would find a way. In any case that with the greatest respect is NOT the issue. The point I am making is that St Kilda chose Armitage over Judd.
Ummm........No they didn't!

Judd chose Carlton over everyone, in 2007!

You, my friend, are speaking a complete load of trollop! :P


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Post: # 1176207Post damienc »

I love reading this blog because you speak with such authority yet all you seem to blow is hot air. You have no idea what deals are done or in this case not done behind closed doors.

I will freely admit most of the time I don't either. But on this occasion I happen to know what happened. My source ( as I said) is impeccable. But keep with the barbs and of course keep writing as if you think you know what you are talking about.


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Post: # 1176210Post saintsfreak »

Well I have it from an impeccable source that we could have had GAJ but we chose Dean Polo :roll:


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Post: # 1176211Post damienc »

To my good friends Sax and Saintnick 12. You seem to know so much about what Judd was thinking he must be a close mate. So the next time you are invited around to his place for a BBQ, why don't you ask him?


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damienc wrote:To my good friends Sax and Saintnick 12. You seem to know so much about what Judd was thinking he must be a close mate. So the next time you are invited around to his place for a BBQ, why don't you ask him?
Hilarious


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Post: # 1176219Post elizabethr »

Perhaps this explains why Juddy bit Armo during a heated moment in a game in the seaso just past.
Now before you start feeding us the ''dog doesnt bite the had that feeds it''stuff have a good think before you post. :lol:


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damienc wrote:To my good friends Sax and Saintnick 12. You seem to know so much about what Judd was thinking he must be a close mate. So the next time you are invited around to his place for a BBQ, why don't you ask him?
Your post make sense now the more I think about it because we had low draft picks to offer WC in exchange for Judd.


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Post: # 1176227Post Old Mate »

So we could have given pick 7 to WC instead of picking Armitage? Doesn't make sense coz the blues gave picks 2, 20 and Kennedy for him. How could we match that? Not to mention Judd nominated the Blues as his preference before any trades were put on the table.


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Post: # 1176229Post goodie »

Even if there were any truth in this, the equation would not have been that simple. It took picks 3, 20 and Josh Kennedy to land Judd, I highly doubt Armitage and pick 9 (McEvoy) would've been enough.


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Post: # 1176231Post damienc »

There you go again. Second guessing what Chris Judd was thinking. My information says we could have done the deal and got Judd but instead we opted for Armitage. Now you can waste a lot of post space (which many of you are happy to do) blowing hot air about what you think were the facts and please feel free to do it because I do like a good laugh.


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Post: # 1176232Post Dr Spaceman »

Unfortunately I don't have an impeccable source.

But I think that if I did have an impeccable source then that impeccable source would say that this is crap.

But of course I'm only guessing, cos I don't have an impeccable source.


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Post: # 1176233Post damienc »

I should add I have no idea what was offered or not offered. Money or draft picks - wouldn't have a clue. But then again neither do the so called authorities on draft picks posting here which again I find very amusing.


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Post: # 1176235Post Middo »

damienc wrote:I should add I have no idea what was offered or not offered. Money or draft picks - wouldn't have a clue. But then again neither do the so called authorities on draft picks posting here which again I find very amusing.
Just about sums it up I reckon ...... :wink: :wink:


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Post: # 1176236Post saintsfreak »

damienc wrote: I have no idea
Obviously.


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