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BigMart wrote:So now the FACTS are out.... Can some responsibility be accepted now....
I love how the same apologists have gone quiet.... Even though an APOLOGY by player and club and compensation has been agreed to as a consequence which intimates guilt!!!
Or are we going to continue to defend or be dismissive?!
I love how our club, or our boys can't do any wrong?! Collingwood players fart in public and they are a disgrace.... Set the same standards of yourself as you do others IMO and if you do wrong ..... MAN UP and ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY
Apology accepted.
I likewise will accept BigMart's apology for his ridiculous over the top berating of the club last night. Now can we move on?
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Now we can move on.
Hird... The unflushable one is now... just a turd...
Ill wait for the fact to come out... Before I can ever believe the players could be at fault
That was the majority view last night, or worse to be dismissive of behaviour that is clearly unacceptable by the players...
Just one eyed apologists who refuse to any accept StK issue, or even admit to them in hindsight.... It's almost as ignorant as the behaviour itself. Defending the actions without full knowledge, is no different to condemning it...
I'd have retracted if it were a beat up, just felt pretty sure it weren't... Almost predictable imo
What's worse... Some kids breaking a curfew and drinking in NZ, or someone setting the back of a dwarf on fire? One group got six weeks suspension?
BigMart wrote:Ill wait for the fact to come out... Before I can ever believe the players could be at fault.
That was the majority view last night, or worse to be dismissive of behaviour that is clearly unacceptable by the players...
"I'll wait for the fact to come out before I pass judgement" was how most, including myself, put it. Of course that wasn't good enough for you; we were expected to condemn both the club and the player (and we didn't know who it was) for something we had very little information.
Anyway we know now. And I'm happy to label Clint Jones a d**khead. With regards to punishment and future actions i'll support the club to make the right decisions; sack him, keep him whatever. Unlike some I don't profess to know more about the situation than those in charge nor do I claim to know better how things should be handled.
BigMart wrote: Defending the actions without full knowledge, is no different to condemning it...
Actually, you had a right royal hissy fit.
BigMart wrote:I'd have retracted if it were a beat up, just felt pretty sure it weren't... Almost predictable imo
So the 'victim' accepted an apology, and seems happy with that, the manager of Bells says the 'victim' hung around for a while and seemed fine...the police haven't laid any charges.
Retract away!
BigMart wrote:What's worse... Some kids breaking a curfew and drinking in NZ, or someone setting the back of a dwarf on fire? One group got six weeks suspension?
Conveniently omitting the abuse of prescription drugs, and they're just "kids" now, but hey, maintain the rage!
Everytime they show the photo of CJ on the newsbreaks I see a cheeky naughty boy with a big smile on his face.
I know it's wrong but it makes me laugh.
Unfortunately I'm with Demetriou and find it funny.
Dr Spaceman wrote:
Anyway we know now. And I'm happy to label Clint Jones a d**khead. With regards to punishment and future actions i'll support the club to make the right decisions; sack him, keep him whatever. Unlike some I don't profess to know more about the situation than those in charge nor do I claim to know better how things should be handled.
Why... It happened... Why the retraction?? What am I retracting????
How do you reckon the meeting betweenJones... Nettlefold and Watters went.... What do you reckon board members thought, sponsors thought... I reckon about the same amount of disappointment as most reasonable people thought
It was a disgrace...
And yes, young players make mistakes more than 30yo veterans .... But hey, forgive and forget.... We have to a lot of that, don't we???
Dr
What is the apology for??
For having an opinion that the act was pathetic and obviously performed by a d**khead, as you put it....
Your happy to support the club, if the sack him, if they don't?? So you have no opinion.... Why bother enter in on the debate... Just support whatever decision is made, they're clearly always the correct ones...
saintbrat wrote:Mr Johnston had sought legal advice on the matter, but added: “I would like to make it clear that although I have consulted my legal options, I have made the decision not to pursue any charges or action against the club or the player involved.”.
Probably because he had a poor legal case.
Conflicting versions and the only independant corroborating witness will not back his side of events.
Mighty big of him to not pursue legal action.
The donation to charity is a nice touch but Mr Johnstone has got a tonne of free publicity for the company.
Money can't buy that and, once again, the Herald-Sun has been played like a fool.
I think a couple of tickets to a big game in a month may have helped with negotiations.
Stop apologising BigMart, everyone has accepted that you went off half cocked and have made a bit of a dill of yourself.
We all get it and your apology is accepted by the people you directed your bile at.
Dont sweat it mate, we all know you haven't a clue what happened.
All you know is that no charges were laid, and a bunch of brainless footballers carried on like 5 y.o.'s
So really stop grivelling to Dr Spaceman and satchmo and tell us who will be the smokie in this years draft that we are too dumb to pick.
Would be nice to know in advance unlike your usual hindsight rants
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
Of what? Or do you think he should be called ShortMart?
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Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
For having an opinion that the act was pathetic and obviously performed by a d**khead, as you put it....
Your happy to support the club, if the sack him, if they don't?? So you have no opinion.... Why bother enter in on the debate... Just support whatever decision is made, they're clearly always the correct ones...
So if I'm not prepared to go against the club and demand a player's sacking i shouldn't post on this topic? i wasn't aware you were the thread administrator.
But on what basis am I in a position to decide a player should be sacked if the club decides he shouldn't be? I haven't personally spoken to any of the parties involved, nor will I. I don't have a copy of CJ's personal record or his contract details.
You love to take the controversial line and sound all Derryn Hinchy but what information do you have to enable such bold decisions to be made? Please share.
saintbrat wrote:Mr Johnston had sought legal advice on the matter, but added: “I would like to make it clear that although I have consulted my legal options, I have made the decision not to pursue any charges or action against the club or the player involved.”.
Probably because he had a poor legal case.
Conflicting versions and the only independant corroborating witness will not back his side of events.
Mighty big of him to not pursue legal action.
The donation to charity is a nice touch but Mr Johnstone has got a tonne of free publicity for the company.
Money can't buy that and, once again, the Herald-Sun has been played like a fool.
I think a couple of tickets to a big game in a month may have helped with negotiations.
This slipped through to the keeper. We can keep an eye out for him sitting next to Clint!
I'm guessing that there was 30 or 40 witnesses, so if was indeed an attempted assassination, then one of them is bound to crack.
Hopefully next year they take steps to prevent this sort of scenario rather than getting the broom out after.
Not just jones that can learn from it, club can as well.
Players may also grow from it, louder voice next time etc etc
I expect the club to be across things more next year, or is that unfair?
Very hard to do it mad monday. Has to be the leaders.
Oh well that to.
I'd expect some guys will leave today with the mindset of being stronger next time around.
Wouldn't hurt to get them to provide a run down, other clubs do.
Least have someone answering the phones and taking calls like this seriously.
Least release the statement that they are looking into things sooner.
The Club handled this matter as best they could. Waited until they had all the facts, then acted appropriately.
Won't change anything for next year, unless 20 something year old men somehow change their tolerance to alcohol in 12 months.
In the scheme of things this is no big deal and the less people get on their high horse the better for all concerned. Time for the egos on this forum to pull their heads in.
Good on you, all you apologists for yet another incident which lands our club in trouble, in the media, for all the wrong reasons.
There was nothing 'funny', 'silly' or 'naive' about what happened.
