Ahmed Saad starts suspension for banned substance

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Re: Ahmed Saad starts suspension for banned substance

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saintsRrising wrote:
Megamaguire wrote: and the punishment ? keep me in the picture - spell it out for me who does the punishing?
AFL issue the punishment.
WADA can appeal if they believe the penalty is too light.
ie they appealed a 7 month ban on a VFL player, and it then went up to 2 years.

Thanks SaintsRising,
I suspected as much (ie) that the AFL will decide on education or punishment. In Saad's case I hope they consider the liklihood that Saad made one isolated unconscious decision that has reached nightmare proportions. Ahmed is from what i hear a pparticularly upstanding young guy and has been commended for a lot of his work with multi-culturalism. There is enormous upside to Ahmed aside from the footy. I hope to heck the afl see him in an entirely different light to the essendon saga.
I believe the huge difference in premeditation in the essendon case verses the one act of clumsiness in Ahmed's case should see him back playing a.s.a.p.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:No point him retiring.
Heck if he gets 12 months thats nothing really. Just like a bad injury but without the re-hab.. Warney copped 12 but that was suss cos the diuretic may have been masking something he was talking for his shoulder....
Would think that the club would rookie him until the ban is up. If that is possible. Could mean that he has to be scratched from the list totally.


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SAAD should be delisted just for stupidity and if he is suspended for less than a year place him on the rookie list, otherwise cut him free.


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Buckets wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:No point him retiring.
Heck if he gets 12 months thats nothing really. Just like a bad injury but without the re-hab.. Warney copped 12 but that was suss cos the diuretic may have been masking something he was talking for his shoulder....
Would think that the club would rookie him until the ban is up. If that is possible. Could mean that he has to be scratched from the list totally.
Can we afford to take up one rookie spot with a guy who cant play??


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saint66au wrote: Can we afford to take up one rookie spot with a guy who cant play??
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saint66au wrote: Can we afford to take up one rookie spot with a guy who cant play??
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Re: Ahmed Saad starts suspension for banned substance

Post: # 1390918Post gringo »

Cilic is actually challenging the ban and wants it lessened. It could be that Saad doesn't actually miss that much footy maybe half a season or something. The could sit a personal trainer and send guys out to kick and train with him to keep him fit and show him videos.


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Re: Ahmed Saad starts suspension for banned substance

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gringo wrote: The could sit a personal trainer and send guys out to kick and train with him to keep him fit and show him videos.
No they cannot.

The club is not allowed to help in any football or fitness way. Just drug rehabilation.

And indeed no football club at any level is permitted to assist.


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WinnersOnly wrote:SAAD should be delisted just for stupidity and if he is suspended for less than a year place him on the rookie list, otherwise cut him free.

delist someone just for stupidity. Goes well with your other hysterical post on Watters which is total guess work.

but I love your posts. I reckon you're really cool.


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http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl ... 6723158717
The code also carries the provision for lesser penalties, including a reprimand and no ban.

Saad’s legal team has been working feverishly on his defence and are set to argue their client was guilty only of being naive and had never set out to cheat the system.

The Saad camp doesn’t blame Viking Protein and instead will question the advantage gained by drinking it, arguing its stimulant levels are no higher than caffeine.

Any suspension Saad receives will be backdated to the start of his provisional suspension, August 20.


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Re: Ahmed Saad starts suspension for banned substance

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saintbrat wrote:http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl ... 6723158717
The code also carries the provision for lesser penalties, including a reprimand and no ban.

Saad’s legal team has been working feverishly on his defence and are set to argue their client was guilty only of being naive and had never set out to cheat the system.

The Saad camp doesn’t blame Viking Protein and instead will question the advantage gained by drinking it, arguing its stimulant levels are no higher than caffeine.

Any suspension Saad receives will be backdated to the start of his provisional suspension, August 20.
Now we start the guessing game. S6 substance that is at the lower end of the scale. Appears to be a single act of stupidity. My guess: 8 weeks. 3 weeks already served means he will miss the first 5 games in 2014. The club & Ahmed would be more than happy with that outcome !!


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Re: Ahmed Saad starts suspension for banned substance

Post: # 1392058Post gringo »

saintsRrising wrote:
gringo wrote: The could sit a personal trainer and send guys out to kick and train with him to keep him fit and show him videos.
No they cannot.

The club is not allowed to help in any football or fitness way. Just drug rehabilation.

And indeed no football club at any level is permitted to assist.

I bet most clubs could organise some sympathetic friends to help him out but not actually know anything about it.


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Re: Ahmed Saad starts suspension for banned substance

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SaintPav wrote:
WinnersOnly wrote:SAAD should be delisted just for stupidity and if he is suspended for less than a year place him on the rookie list, otherwise cut him free.

delist someone just for stupidity. Goes well with your other hysterical post on Watters which is total guess work.

but I love your posts. I reckon you're really cool.

I think we should get rid of riewoldt for his photos, Gilbert enough said, jack Steven, Milney, Dal, Fisher, Armo, CJ etc. Obviously that would be pretty easy to sack someone for under employment law. Stupidity would be a reason to sack most Aussies.


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Re: Ahmed Saad starts suspension for banned substance

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gringo wrote: Stupidity would be a reason to sack most Aussies.
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Re: Ahmed Saad starts suspension for banned substance

Post: # 1392063Post Kickit »

His best bet would be to try to get some regular training sessions in with some of the VFL guys who are in the same boat.
But who knows, he might have some better quality training partners by next year.


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