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Post: # 1408347Post saintbrat »

whilst the rumour mill has been aghast at what the Saints bottom line may be- the only supposition I have seen is $1.5mill
and there is supposition on the Bombers being between $5 and 7 mill
and the Lions well over the $1mill- if not closer to $2mill

this comment is interesting...
The league has made clear it will push more aggressive equalisation measures, with as few as three or four AFL clubs making a profit when AFL distributions are taken away. -
See more at: http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/af ... xn1cs.dpuf

My assumption on the 3 clubs would be Pies, Hawks and Eagles

North have said a $1mill profit over the year But still owe $3mill.


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I'm pretty sure Richmond made a decent profit.


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yeah, well, AFL distributions come from where? tv rights. the clubs generate this revenue. it's hardly a handout.


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RW&B wrote:I'm pretty sure Richmond made a decent profit.

would seem so- but some of it will be paying off debt--
http://www.afr.com/p/lifestyle/sport/ri ... hoIIvUhE6M

they are looking for some 'gaming'
Otherwise, the club is investigating finding more non-football revenue, such as a gaming facility, to off-set any dip in membership numbers or on-field performance. “We’ve been investing in our football department from our core football revenue, and haven’t been ­relying on other places like gaming,” Gale says.


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Post: # 1408367Post Kickit »

Footy clubs don't need to make profit. Breaking even is good.

The AFL is aware of the Etihad stadium situation ( which doesn't affect the Lions )
More people watch TV than go to the game.
There are people all over Australia who cannot practically go to a game.

It makes sense to keep all the clubs going.

Melbourne , Brisbane, Port, Essendon, Richmond all have a much greater history of mismanagement than StKilda this century.


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saintbrat wrote:whilst the rumour mill has been aghast at what the Saints bottom line may be- the only supposition I have seen is $1.5mill
and there is supposition on the Bombers being between $5 and 7 mill
and the Lions well over the $1mill- if not closer to $2mill

this comment is interesting...
The league has made clear it will push more aggressive equalisation measures, with as few as three or four AFL clubs making a profit when AFL distributions are taken away. -
See more at: http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/af ... xn1cs.dpuf

My assumption on the 3 clubs would be Pies, Hawks and Eagles

North have said a $1mill profit over the year But still owe $3mill.

Who cares about other clubs. we lost to much money and we need to turn it around otherwise we just keep hanging in there. We will probably have the lowest membership of any Victorian club next year. Not good enough and a worry if the AFL ever decide they wont help clubs as much. We need to be better than the other 3 bottom Vic clubs.


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Profit's not important, it's what's in the balance sheet that counts and, of course, cash flow...


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the AFL now charging one of it's limbs double--
take in one hand an d then have to give it back with the other....- equalisation
In 2013 clubs paid about $28,000 for behind-the-goals vision broadcast into coach's boxes and regarded by most clubs as offering an instrumental tactical viewpoint as well as providing a crucial platform for post-game reviews. The clubs have been warned that cost could next year increase to almost $60,000.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a ... z2im7gshwm


half the price ( no real info there just an assumption) of a developement or line coach or IT person to run the vision...$30,000 per year.


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Profits and losses announced to date

North + $1 Mill ( with a debt)
Hawthorn + $3.1Mill
Richmond + $3.5 Mill
Magpies + $5.2 mill ( + AFL and MCC grants) For making Westpac Centre a ' Community centre"

Lions - $1.5 mill
Bombers - $3.2 mill with bank loans

any others anyone has read...


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saintbrat wrote:Profits and losses announced to date

North + $1 Mill ( with a debt)
Hawthorn + $3.1Mill
Richmond + $3.5 Mill
Magpies + $5.2 mill ( + AFL and MCC grants) For making Westpac Centre a ' Community centre"

Lions - $1.5 mill
Bombers - $3.2 mill with bank loans

any others anyone has read...
it was reported that with the grants Collingwood made 16 mill
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/20 ... ial-result


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Playon wrote:
saintbrat wrote:Profits and losses announced to date

North + $1 Mill ( with a debt)
Hawthorn + $3.1Mill
Richmond + $3.5 Mill
Magpies + $5.2 mill ( + AFL and MCC grants) For making Westpac Centre a ' Community centre"

Lions - $1.5 mill
Bombers - $3.2 mill with bank loans

any others anyone has read...
it was reported that with the grants Collingwood made 16 mill
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/20 ... ial-result
So this "community centre", can I go there tomorrow and play ping pong?


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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-27/d ... -cats-base

Geelong downgrade their plans ....
Despite the dramas with the training facility, the Cats have still been able to declare an operating profit of $148,000, which is down on last year's figure of $331,000.
even 3 X premiers can't make heaps--- although do have a nice stadium-- apparently-- as as a visiting supporter I only got to sit in one of the few open areas left...


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Updated

North + $1 Mill ( with a debt)
Hawthorn + $3.1Mill
Richmond + $3.5 Mill
Magpies + $5.2 mill ( + AFL and MCC grants) For making Westpac Centre a ' Community centre"


Geelong + $148,000,

Lions - $1.5 mill
Bombers - $3.2 mill with bank loans


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The Bulldgos announced an operating loss of$143,000 today - not too bad given they had one of the smallest memberships and a crappy Etihad Stadium deal.
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sverik25 wrote:I think the Bulldogs announced an operating profit of $150,000 today.

Think it was a loss. Not bad though.


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Yeah I realised and then I corrected it.


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Updated 28/11/13

Magpies + $5.2 mill ( + AFL and MCC grants) For making Westpac Centre a ' Community centre"
Richmond + $3.5 Mill
Hawthorn + $3.1Mill
North + $1 Mill ( with a debt)

Carlton + $528,095 ( turn around after $700,000 loss- 1 mill.

Geelong + $148,000,

Bulldogs - $143,000

Lions - $1.5 mill
Demons - $1.7 mill ( with AFL loans
Bombers - $3.2 mill with bank loans


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-28/d ... 17-million


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even 20 mill from pokies doesn't give you a huge profit.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-pre ... 6775354170


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saintbrat wrote:even 20 mill from pokies doesn't give you a huge profit.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-pre ... 6775354170
The profit.......or the huge profit will come in the last 5 years of the 10 year agreement!!


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mmmm- easy to make a profit when you bank Govt funds and reap the interest

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/colling ... 6780048991


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What a farce....


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Acc. to the article, the AFL brand ranking table is:

Collingwood Magpies
West Coast Eagles
Geelong Cats
Carlton Blues
Fremantle Dockers
Essendon Bombers
Sydney Swans
Richmond Tigers
Adelaide Crows
Brisbane Lions
Port Adelaide Power
Stkilda Saints
Melbourne Demons

To me, this reinforces the age old addage "any publicity is good publicity."
All the negative publicity directed at us has created more brand exposure and awareness for us than the likes of the Western Bulldogs and the North Melbourne Kangaroos have seen in decades.


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Updated 13/12/13

Magpies + $5.2 mill ( + AFL and MCC grants) For making Westpac Centre a ' Community centre"
Richmond + $3.5 Mill
Hawthorn + $3.1Mill
North + $1 Mill ( with a debt)
Sydney + $600,000 +
Carlton + $528,095 ( turn around after $700,000 loss- 1 mill.

Geelong + $148,000,

Bulldogs - $143,000

Lions - $1.5 mill
Demons - $1.7 mill ( with AFL loans
Crows -$1.8 mill ( AFL fine)
Bombers - $3.2mill (with bank loan and AFL fine)


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Updated 23/12/13

Magpies + $5.2 mill ( + AFL and MCC grants) For making Westpac Centre a ' Community centre"
Richmond + $3.5 Mill
Hawthorn + $3.1Mill
North + $1 Mill ( with a debt)
Sydney + $600,000 +
Carlton + $528,095 ( turn around after $700,000 loss- 1 mill.

Geelong + $148,000,

Bulldogs - $143,000

Saints - $1,198,587. statutory loss of $2,614,837
Lions - $1.5 mill
Demons - $1.7 mill ( with AFL loans
Crows -$1.8 mill ( AFL fine)
Bombers - $3.2mill (with bank loan and AFL fine)


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