free kicks

[magnifisaint]

What about the idiot umpire who couldn't bounce the ball and then asked Gawn why he punched the ball away. If I were Gawn I would have responded that we wouldn't be having this conversation if you knew how to bounce the ball properly.

That level of wit looks beyond Gawn.

I suppose you don't have to be too smart to be a good ruckman

[desertsaint]

What about the idiot umpire who couldn't bounce the ball and then asked Gawn why he punched the ball away. If I were Gawn I would have responded that we wouldn't be having this conversation if you knew how to bounce the ball properly.

That level of wit looks beyond Gawn.

yes i think his confused grunt and shrug in reply said it all.

[Dis Believer]

Why do you expect the free count to be even? We were tackling a lot more so were more likely to give away frees.

See, this logic just doesn't stand up. IF the opposition tackle count was through the roof, and they received a lot more free kicks, we would put it down to their attack on the ball and the man, and ask our players to lift their intensity. We soundly beat the opposition, out-tackle them, lose the free- kick count yet again, and someone puts it down to the statistical average of "poor tackles" because our tackle count was so high........

WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO WIN THE FRRE KICK COUNT ??

It is not logically possible to never/rarely win the free kick count irrelevant of the nature of the game. We pulverise our opponents and lose the free kick count, we surrender meekly to our opponents and lose the free kick count. What do we need to do to regularly break even or even win the free kick count?

Whether we were challenging for flags or down the bottom collecting spoons, whether our list was of acknowledged great players like Dal, BJ, Roo or lots of kids like Billings, Gresh etc, we have been on the wrong end of the free kick count now consistently for at least 8 years......WHY?

[saynta]

Why do you expect the free count to be even? We were tackling a lot more so were more likely to give away frees.

See, this logic just doesn't stand up. IF the opposition tackle count was through the roof, and they received a lot more free kicks, we would put it down to their attack on the ball and the man, and ask our players to lift their intensity. We soundly beat the opposition, out-tackle them, lose the free- kick count yet again, and someone puts it down to the statistical average of "poor tackles" because our tackle count was so high........

WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO WIN THE FRRE KICK COUNT ??

It is not logically possible to never/rarely win the free kick count irrelevant of the nature of the game. We pulverise our opponents and lose the free kick count, we surrender meekly to our opponents and lose the free kick count. What do we need to do to regularly break even or even win the free kick count?

Whether we were challenging for flags or down the bottom collecting spoons, whether our list was of acknowledged great players like Dal, BJ, Roo or lots of kids like Billings, Gresh etc, we have been on the wrong end of the free kick count now consistently for at least 8 years......WHY?

Good question, and one the club should be asking the AFL.

[HitTheBoundary]

WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO WIN THE FRRE KICK COUNT ??

Triple our membership.

[WellardSaint]

What about the idiot umpire who couldn't bounce the ball and then asked Gawn why he punched the ball away. If I were Gawn I would have responded that we wouldn't be having this conversation if you knew how to bounce the ball properly.

That level of wit looks beyond Gawn.

Gawn has a cousin in South Dakota who wrestles catfish, and is married to a close family member- keeping the gene pool pure

[stonecold]

How we couldd lose the free kick count in this week's game 19 -15 is beyond me.

Oh, I forgot the maggot awarding most of the frees to the scumbags was a former scumbag himself.

Must have missed the AFL memo that stated the free kick count has to be even in every game!!!!!

Take the four points and get over it!!!!!

Statements such as yours are really going to encourage ex players to umpire, maybe being such an expert and all, you could step out from the safety of cyber space have a go?????

[saynta]

How we couldd lose the free kick count in this week's game 19 -15 is beyond me.

Oh, I forgot the maggot awarding most of the frees to the scumbags was a former scumbag himself.

Must have missed the AFL memo that stated the free kick count has to be even in every game!!!!!

Take the four points and get over it!!!!!

Statements such as yours are really going to encourage ex players to umpire, maybe being such an expert and all, you could step out from the safety of cyber space have a go?????

Bit to old for that mate, anyway I am more the management type. I leave the blue coliar stuff to guys like you.

Basically I couldn't give a rats whether former players take up umpiring or not as long as they don't get games involving their former teams.

[saynta]

What about the idiot umpire who couldn't bounce the ball and then asked Gawn why he punched the ball away. If I were Gawn I would have responded that we wouldn't be having this conversation if you knew how to bounce the ball properly.

That level of wit looks beyond Gawn.

Gawn has a cousin in South Dakota who wrestles catfish, and is married to a close family member- keeping the gene pool pure

He would seem to be a better fit for the filth then.

[Life Long Saint]

How we couldd lose the free kick count in this week's game 19 -15 is beyond me.

Oh, I forgot the maggot awarding most of the frees to the scumbags was a former scumbag himself.

Must have missed the AFL memo that stated the free kick count has to be even in every game!!!!!

Take the four points and get over it!!!!!

Statements such as yours are really going to encourage ex players to umpire, maybe being such an expert and all, you could step out from the safety of cyber space have a go?????

Bit to old for that mate, anyway I am more the management type. I leave the blue colour stuff to guys like you.

Basically I couldn't give a rats whether former players take up umpiring or not as long as they don't get games involving their former teams.

I have no problem if they do so long as they umpire well.

[Life Long Saint]

How we couldd lose the free kick count in this week's game 19 -15 is beyond me.

Oh, I forgot the maggot awarding most of the frees to the scumbags was a former scumbag himself.

Must have missed the AFL memo that stated the free kick count has to be even in every game!!!!!

Take the four points and get over it!!!!!

Maybe you can explain the trend then instead of focusing on one game...

Once again...We receive 15.8 free kicks per game. By comparison, there are ten clubs that receive 20 or more.
We clearly aren't getting the free kicks other teams get.

Can you explain that?

[saynta]

How we couldd lose the free kick count in this week's game 19 -15 is beyond me.

Oh, I forgot the maggot awarding most of the frees to the scumbags was a former scumbag himself.

Must have missed the AFL memo that stated the free kick count has to be even in every game!!!!!

Take the four points and get over it!!!!!

Statements such as yours are really going to encourage ex players to umpire, maybe being such an expert and all, you could step out from the safety of cyber space have a go?????

Bit to old for that mate, anyway I am more the management type. I leave the blue colour stuff to guys like you.

Basically I couldn't give a rats whether former players take up umpiring or not as long as they don't get games involving their former teams.

I have no problem if they do so long as they umpire well.

In Fisher's first game that involved the saints, he awarded the saints a couple of frees and got crucified for doing so.

The AFL originally said, never again, but have since relaxed their stance.

It's human nature to be distrustfull. I know I am.

[degruch]

The AFL's 'pass' mark for umpiring accuracy is 80%...assuming that they capture 100% of infringements, this would be acceptable.

I'm quite sure accuracy is better this year than the recent past, but umpires seem to be inclined to put the whistle away when it comes to forward line infringements, particularly in our case. Didn't cost us too dearly on the weekend, it's close games where I'd like to see our small forwards being paid for high tackles and pushes, tall forwards for having arms and heads chopped in marking contests.

I think there's a number of teams that could argue the same.

[saynta]

The AFL's 'pass' mark for umpiring accuracy is 80%...assuming that they capture 100% of infringements, this would be acceptable.

I'm quite sure accuracy is better this year than the recent past, but umpires seem to be inclined to put the whistle away when it comes to forward line infringements, particularly in our case. Didn't cost us too dearly on the weekend, it's close games where I'd like to see our small forwards being paid for high tackles and pushes, tall forwards for having arms and heads chopped in marking contests.

I think there's a number of teams that could argue the same.

Yes, but we are still down the bottom when it comes to free kicks and have been since the Grant Thomas days.

There is no rational explanation for that apart from assuming the maggots have us in the gun.

[shrodes]

There is no rational explanation for that apart from assuming the maggots have us in the gun.

Not true, there are plenty of reasons. The way coaching staff teach defensive techniques such as marking contests, tackling, and winning contested ball. The ability for our players to extract free kicks through body positioning. The luck of the draw (someone has to be ranked last after all).

On occasion I have been troubled by the umpiring, but every time I stop myself and think, are we winning? If we're not winning, I'm probably just making excuses for the fact.

The umpiring on the weekend was quite alright in my books, besides that out of bounds on the full call.

[ROLS-LEE]

All I want is consistency.
I've noticed since our game against the hawks how many 5-10mtr kicks have been paid in the backline yet ours weren't. Same goes for 5-10 mtr kicks to the forwards. This is just as ridiculous and luckily we haven't been burnt by this yet.
To me the AFL have an agenda to make the game more faster and higher scoring and the umpires have been told to adjudicate their decisions accordingly.

[degruch]

To me the AFL have an agenda to make the game more faster and higher scoring and the umpires have been told to adjudicate their decisions accordingly.

They can start paying frees to our forwards and probably add 10 goals per game...then everyone will be happy!

[ROLS-LEE]

To me the AFL have an agenda to make the game more faster and higher scoring and the umpires have been told to adjudicate their decisions accordingly.

They can start paying frees to our forwards and probably add 10 goals per game...then everyone will be happy!

The AFL's fine print states screw stkilda at all costs.