As I explained earlier on, the Tribunal does not have a choice whether to accept character references or not. The AFL treads a fine line in having players and clubs accept its tribunals and other penalty processes. The AFL has no more standing in law than any other sporting body. The club is the employer, not the AFL. The AFL has no ultimate power to stop a player from playing or earning money. In order to persuade players and clubs from using their statutory remedy - the courts - the AFL, based on previous court decisions, must demonstrate that the player or club has been afforded natural justice. As I also explained, this is not new. There have been many times when players and clubs have used the courts because they thought the AFL/VFL decision was wrong, or wanted to bypass the League - including us. Think Doug Cox or Silvio Foschini.thejiggingsaint wrote:"Character references" shouldn't come into it whatsoever. Nathan Burke is SPOT ON, it's the ACT that should be judged, not the character of the alleged offender...
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But a players record must play a part in the sentence. If he is a repeat, repeat offender then he must cop a longer sentence than a 'virgin'. Having seen the vision for the first time I thought he was trying to break free from being held back and flung his arm backwards. 2 weeks seems OK to me.thejiggingsaint wrote:"Character references" shouldn't come into it whatsoever. Nathan Burke is SPOT ON, it's the ACT that should be judged, not the character of the alleged offender. I reckon Houli should have considered his words more carefully, bringing in the issue of "hitting someone being against my religion" as providing grounds of some sort of mitigation, was not (in my humble opinion) the way to best serve his case.
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Toby Greene's was worse (clearly deliberate...Houli may have been an attempted brush off)... Greene got 2 weeks... where was the uproar then?
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Here in Perth, a few years ago,
a large bikie (140 kgs and 6' 5")
was unhappy with a young bloke talking to 2 ladies that the bikie knew
The bloke was standing with his back to a window (this was on the first floor of a pub)
Bikie pushed bloke thru window, bloke fell to footpath, bikie left pub and walked straight past the body
Scum lawyer for bikie tried to pin some blame on pub by saying "they should have used shatterproof glass, so the pub's owners are culpable"
This is the sort of rubbish lawyers get up to. Bottom feeders. Morals governed by who is paying them.
The bikie shouldn't have pushed a guy half his size, thru the window.
a large bikie (140 kgs and 6' 5")
was unhappy with a young bloke talking to 2 ladies that the bikie knew
The bloke was standing with his back to a window (this was on the first floor of a pub)
Bikie pushed bloke thru window, bloke fell to footpath, bikie left pub and walked straight past the body
Scum lawyer for bikie tried to pin some blame on pub by saying "they should have used shatterproof glass, so the pub's owners are culpable"
This is the sort of rubbish lawyers get up to. Bottom feeders. Morals governed by who is paying them.
The bikie shouldn't have pushed a guy half his size, thru the window.
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oh when the wrote:Houli banned for four weeks
I am going to take all my clothes off and run around the block naked
in pure unadulterated joy.
Its dark in Perth, nobody will see me except for...mating cats and confused possums
I apologise in advance to those traumatised animals
but Bachar is now a Basher
hahahaha
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Good.
So will Houli now cop the Goodes treatment and carry on like a twat also when he returns??
So will Houli now cop the Goodes treatment and carry on like a twat also when he returns??
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I wouldnt expect so.saintspremiers wrote:Good.
So will Houli now cop the Goodes treatment and carry on like a twat also when he returns??
If he only got 2 weeks, yeah boo whenever the porkophobe gets the ball
But he got 4 weeks so justice has been served, his rubbish club had to pay overs for bottom feeding scum suckers (lawyers)
and it was all for nought.
No booing should happen
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ExactlySuperDuper wrote:Toby Greene's was worse (clearly deliberate...Houli may have been an attempted brush off)... Greene got 2 weeks... where was the uproar then?
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What does that even mean?saintspremiers wrote:Good.
So will Houli now cop the Goodes treatment and carry on like a twat also when he returns??
You seem to have issues with Goodes and Hoult. Why is that?
I'll await your Bolt inspired response.
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All good, no booing required.
(Except to the morons on the Tribunal who made the initial pathetic decision, they should be sacked).
(Except to the morons on the Tribunal who made the initial pathetic decision, they should be sacked).
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What's the connection?saintspremiers wrote:Good.
So will Houli now cop the Goodes treatment and carry on like a twat also when he returns??
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He's one of "them" and not one of "us".kosifantutti wrote:What's the connection?saintspremiers wrote:Good.
So will Houli now cop the Goodes treatment and carry on like a twat also when he returns??
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WellardSaint wrote:oh when the wrote:Houli banned for four weeks
I am going to take all my clothes off and run around the block naked
in pure unadulterated joy.
Its dark in Perth, nobody will see me except for...mating cats and confused possums
I apologise in advance to those traumatised animals
but Bachar is now a Basher
hahahaha
Hope you don't want a lawyer when you get charged with indecent exposure.
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Not sure any lawyer will want the job.saynta wrote:WellardSaint wrote:oh when the wrote:Houli banned for four weeks
I am going to take all my clothes off and run around the block naked
in pure unadulterated joy.
Its dark in Perth, nobody will see me except for...mating cats and confused possums
I apologise in advance to those traumatised animals
but Bachar is now a Basher
hahahaha
Hope you don't want a lawyer when you get charged with indecent exposure.
I just need to defend myself, be patient in court and stick it out
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And get charged a second time?WellardSaint wrote:Not sure any lawyer will want the job.saynta wrote:WellardSaint wrote:oh when the wrote:Houli banned for four weeks
I am going to take all my clothes off and run around the block naked
in pure unadulterated joy.
Its dark in Perth, nobody will see me except for...mating cats and confused possums
I apologise in advance to those traumatised animals
but Bachar is now a Basher
hahahaha
Hope you don't want a lawyer when you get charged with indecent exposure.
I just need to defend myself, be patient in court and stick it out
Sticking "it" out would have been what got you in trouble in the first place.
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I think it may be safer not to go within 100 metres of AFL House for the next few weeks.
I obviously can't explain why in our politically correct society.
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He's a friend of Donald Trump.dragit wrote:Bugg has to get more than Houli, intention can't be argued in this case…
You've heard him talk about the bugg in the White House.
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Maybe trump could write a covfefe for him.kosifantutti wrote:He's a friend of Donald Trump.dragit wrote:Bugg has to get more than Houli, intention can't be argued in this case…
You've heard him talk about the bugg in the White House.
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Will there be a similar thread on Bugg?
Or cos he is a white Anglo Saxon asshole he gots off Scott free around here?
Or cos he is a white Anglo Saxon asshole he gots off Scott free around here?
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Perhaps the Dee's could exhume Sir Billy Sneddon to give character evidence?
Looking forward to Bugg's selfie outside the Tribunal titled "Are you ready Tribunal?".
He should have plenty of time to boast on social media about his 3 kicks this week and his zero contested possessions last week.
Looking forward to Bugg's selfie outside the Tribunal titled "Are you ready Tribunal?".
He should have plenty of time to boast on social media about his 3 kicks this week and his zero contested possessions last week.
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You know what I would truly love to see.Enrico_Misso wrote:Perhaps the Dee's could exhume Sir Billy Sneddon to give character evidence?
Looking forward to Bugg's selfie outside the Tribunal titled "Are you ready Tribunal?".
He should have plenty of time to boast on social media about his 3 kicks this week and his zero contested possessions last week.
Negative character references.