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Post: # 1734286Post Con Gorozidis »

skeptic wrote: Sat 09 Jun 2018 9:14pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Sat 09 Jun 2018 9:11pm
Factor wrote: Sat 09 Jun 2018 9:02pm This is THE coach killer. Can’t continue. Lost players, no development of young talent. Has to go.

Contracted for another two seasons..........

..........After this one...

Isn’t he contracted until the end of next season?
Unfortunately.... It is 2020.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/ala ... yvrli.html
St Kilda president Peter Summers said the Saints' board had "no hesitation" in giving the tick of approval for Alan Richardson to be re-signed until the end of 2020.

Richardson is poised to become St Kilda's second longest-serving coach, with the Saints confirming Richardson's new deal at their best and fairest count on Friday night.


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David-Lee wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 1:18am Damn it. Calm down. Let's let Richo run us into the ground and get at least that #1 pick
C'mon WE CAN SO THIS! WE HAVE SKILLS TO GET THE WOOD!
Time to cue another "i'm torn" thread. Was definitely one of my favorites!


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Con Gorozidis wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 1:20am
skeptic wrote: Sat 09 Jun 2018 9:14pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Sat 09 Jun 2018 9:11pm
Factor wrote: Sat 09 Jun 2018 9:02pm This is THE coach killer. Can’t continue. Lost players, no development of young talent. Has to go.

Contracted for another two seasons..........

..........After this one...

Isn’t he contracted until the end of next season?
Unfortunately.... It is 2020.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/ala ... yvrli.html
St Kilda president Peter Summers said the Saints' board had "no hesitation" in giving the tick of approval for Alan Richardson to be re-signed until the end of 2020.

Richardson is poised to become St Kilda's second longest-serving coach, with the Saints confirming Richardson's new deal at their best and fairest count on Friday night.
Oh sweet Jesus

I was pissed off when I thought it was until the end of next season


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Post: # 1734331Post saintadamski »

I'm not saying I am excusing Richo but no coach could win with:
- Savage
- Newnes
- Weller
- Steele
- Lonie
- Sinclair
- McCartin
- Hickey
- Billings (not playing tonight)

These players must be traded (no one would want them) or delisted

The true rot to this club is list management and recruiting - Ameet Baines and Tony Elshaug have brought this club to its knees

Also Jack Steven should be a running wingman - not an inside mid

In fact we don't actually have any really good mids - Petracca and Bontempelli were passed up for Billings and McCartin... duds


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Toy Saint wrote:
Ape_Man wrote: Sat 09 Jun 2018 9:50pm Would like him to go now and see if we can find someone that can get the best out of some players.

I would hate that he lasted the season and we traded players that go on to be guns elsewhere.
Billings might be good in a good team.
Or maybe a system that develops players.


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Recruiting has been abismal I agree. McCartin over Bontempelli etc ? Come on.
But Richo has to go. He is a cancer on this club.


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Recruiting has been abismal I agree. McCartin over Bontempelli etc ? Come on.
But Richo has to go. He is a cancer on this club.


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Recruiting has been abismal I agree. McCartin over Bontempelli etc ? Come on.
But Richo has to go. He is a cancer on this club.


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iwantmeseats wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 9:36am Recruiting has been abismal I agree. McCartin over Bontempelli etc ? Come on.
But Richo has to go. He is a cancer on this club.
Unfortunately, Bontempelli was taken by the time we took McCartin :D


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Post: # 1734419Post iwantmeseats »

I could throw up 10 others. But why waste my time.


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Post: # 1734426Post Cairnsman »

It was boys against men last night and I think Sydney will play in the GF so two clubs at opposite ends of the development cycle. Doesn't explain why we weren't able to man up and go one-on-one. Is that game strategy even utilised these days?, the one previously deployed when there was a run against you and all 18 players were required to be accountable for a player and at the very least stop the run before there is a score blowout?. It seemed like that was what was needed in the first quarter when most of our players seemed to be wandering the field without any intent to chase or body a player. A statement needed to be made, a full frontal, some sort of physical assertion, however that's where my frustration grew last night at the realisation we don't have any of those types in our team. Stevie Baker anyone?


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If there are more quarters like the first from last night then it will be harder to defend the argument "at least the Coach hasn't lost the players".


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Re: This is the end

Post: # 1734436Post samoht »

We missed some bigger bodies and experience - Acres, Carlisle, Roberton, Bruce have left a bit of a hole.
Long was starting to play some good football - we miss him too.

I think Connellan and Paton should come in next game to apply some much-needed forward pressure - the ball came out of our F50 too easily and cleanly last night.
Is Orbison one of our selectors .. "only the Lonie/Weller Weller bing bang"?
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Post: # 1734437Post CarlD »

You could understand it if the Saints had a crack from the start but faded against a more seasoned team, but to not give a yelp from the beginning …


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Post: # 1734444Post mullet »

The drums are beating. Sport shows already questioning Richardsons tenure. Its all over. Put him and us out of our misery


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David-Lee wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 1:18am Damn it. Calm down. Let's let Richo run us into the ground and get at least that #1 pick
C'mon WE CAN SO THIS! WE HAVE SKILLS TO GET THE WOOD!
:D :wink:


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saintadamski wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 2:06am I'm not saying I am excusing Richo but no coach could win with:
- Savage
- Newnes
- Weller
- Steele
- Lonie
- Sinclair
- McCartin
- Hickey
- Billings (not playing tonight)

These players must be traded (no one would want them) or delisted

The true rot to this club is list management and recruiting - Ameet Baines and Tony Elshaug have brought this club to its knees

Also Jack Steven should be a running wingman - not an inside mid

In fact we don't actually have any really good mids - Petracca and Bontempelli were passed up for Billings and McCartin... duds
Too harsh. Some of those named can play at AFL level.


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Post: # 1734467Post saynta »

iwantmeseats wrote: Sun 10 Jun 2018 9:36am Recruiting has been abismal I agree. McCartin over Bontempelli etc ? Come on.
But Richo has to go. He is a cancer on this club.
They weren't even in the same draft year . :roll:


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Post: # 1734492Post desertsaint »

let's not use injuries as an excuse - we were playing just as poorly with a full team.
it's the coach and those around him. we need a cleanout. we can wait til seasons end and ensure a high draft pick - but need a coach to come in with a say over the trade period so it's a bit tricky. we stuffed up this years draft completely under the illusion we were ready to challange. need to trade our way back in.
we need to entice an experienced coach in - someone the players will respect and believe in, the last thing we want is to put in the players mind that this is a complete reset. it is just building on an incomplete development cycle.


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Post: # 1734509Post Con Gorozidis »

Relax.
Only another 2.5 years of Rico's contract to run.


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