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Young sides this week

Post: # 1742495Post congorozides »

From youngest to oldest:

Bulldogs - L
Suns - L
Freo - W
Lions - W
Carlton - L
Sydney - W
Saints - W
Pies - L

Based on that I think we should have the Dogs covered in rd 20.


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Re: Young sides this week

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Average age?


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Devilhead wrote: Sun 15 Jul 2018 10:17pmAverage age?
And games.

< 50 games

Blues 12
Doggies 11
Freo 11
Swans 10
Lions 9
Suns 9
Bombers 8
Pies 7
Saints 6


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Re: Young sides this week

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What about age?

65 games and you could another 4 more - Acres and that's 5 more but he will likely replace some one in that games bracket anyway


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Devilhead wrote: Sun 15 Jul 2018 11:02pm What about age?

65 games and you could another 4 more - Acres and that's 5 more but he will likely replace some one in that games bracket anyway

We were 24.9.

Doggies 23.9

Oldest:
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Devilhead wrote: Sun 15 Jul 2018 11:02pm What about age?

65 games and you could another 4 more - Acres and that's 5 more but he will likely replace some one in that games bracket anyway
We were the 7th youngest average age.
(see above).


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I'm a big believer in list balance being the most important ingredient to success.

However averages are irrelevant.


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rodgerfox wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 8:50am I'm a big believer in list balance being the most important ingredient to success.

However averages are irrelevant.
Err. Yeah ok.

Cool story bro.

You are the one saying everything is on track because we have a young list.


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Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 11:11am
rodgerfox wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 8:50am I'm a big believer in list balance being the most important ingredient to success.

However averages are irrelevant.
Err. Yeah ok.

Cool story bro.

You are the one saying everything is on track because we have a young list.
?

I'm not saying that at all.


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rodgerfox wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 8:50am I'm a big believer in list balance being the most important ingredient to success.

However averages are irrelevant.
I regard the quality of players on the list to be the greatest determinant.
Then the quality of the coaching, player development, medical department and finally facilities.

St Kilda severely lacks quality on the list, a result of poor quality in the recruitment.


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rodgerfox wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 11:55am
Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 11:11am
rodgerfox wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 8:50am I'm a big believer in list balance being the most important ingredient to success.

However averages are irrelevant.
Err. Yeah ok.

Cool story bro.

You are the one saying everything is on track because we have a young list.
?

I'm not saying that at all.
Yes you are.
You wrote a huge long OP a few weeks ago saying we were on track and we would be good in two years.
You said we had a young list and were building.

If averages are irrelevant on what basis did you determine we had a young list?


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Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 5:24pm
rodgerfox wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 11:55am
Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 11:11am
rodgerfox wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 8:50am I'm a big believer in list balance being the most important ingredient to success.

However averages are irrelevant.
Err. Yeah ok.

Cool story bro.

You are the one saying everything is on track because we have a young list.
?

I'm not saying that at all.
Yes you are.
You wrote a huge long OP a few weeks ago saying we were on track and we would be good in two years.
You said we had a young list and were building.

If averages are irrelevant on what basis did you determine we had a young list?
I didn't say that at all.


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Re: Young sides this week

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congorozides wrote: Sun 15 Jul 2018 10:25pm
Devilhead wrote: Sun 15 Jul 2018 10:17pmAverage age?
And games.

< 50 games

Blues 12
Doggies 11
Freo 11
Swans 10
Lions 9
Suns 9
Bombers 8
Pies 7
Saints 6
FMD Pies and Swans both top 4 type teams had more players with less than 50 games than us, and we are shyte.

Something is very wrong at Linton Street


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saintspremiers wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 6:59pm
congorozides wrote: Sun 15 Jul 2018 10:25pm
Devilhead wrote: Sun 15 Jul 2018 10:17pmAverage age?
And games.

< 50 games

Blues 12
Doggies 11
Freo 11
Swans 10
Lions 9
Suns 9
Bombers 8
Pies 7
Saints 6
FMD Pies and Swans both top 4 type teams had more players with less than 50 games than us, and we are shyte.

Something is very wrong at Linton Street
I think that is irrelevant to a large degree.


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rodgerfox wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 6:09pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 5:24pm
rodgerfox wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 11:55am
Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 11:11am
rodgerfox wrote: Mon 16 Jul 2018 8:50am I'm a big believer in list balance being the most important ingredient to success.

However averages are irrelevant.
Err. Yeah ok.

Cool story bro.

You are the one saying everything is on track because we have a young list.
?

I'm not saying that at all.
Yes you are.
You wrote a huge long OP a few weeks ago saying we were on track and we would be good in two years.
You said we had a young list and were building.

If averages are irrelevant on what basis did you determine we had a young list?
I didn't say that at all.
So what was the post about us being on the right track and that we will be good in 2-3 years when our list is the right age profile?


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Re: Young sides this week

Post: # 1742650Post rodgerfox »

Just read it man. Very straight forward....

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=95458


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Post: # 1742652Post Con Gorozidis »

rodgerfox wrote: Tue 17 Jul 2018 12:31am Just read it man. Very straight forward....

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=95458
I read it.
I actually don't think you understand averages.
You think you do but you dont.
You think you are saying averages don't matter.
It is the quality of the players in each age group that matters.

That's what you seem to think your argument is.

But you are kidding yourself.


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Post: # 1742654Post parkeysainter »

Image

This explains averages a bit.


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Con Gorozidis wrote: Tue 17 Jul 2018 12:36am
rodgerfox wrote: Tue 17 Jul 2018 12:31am Just read it man. Very straight forward....

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=95458
I read it.
I actually don't think you understand averages.
You think you do but you dont.
You think you are saying averages don't matter.
It is the quality of the players in each age group that matters.

That's what you seem to think your argument is.

But you are kidding yourself.
I'm quietly confident I know what my argument is.


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Post: # 1742715Post congorozides »

Are we aiming for a flag or for 9th-10th?


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Post: # 1742758Post Scollop »

rodgerfox wrote: Tue 17 Jul 2018 1:48pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Tue 17 Jul 2018 12:36am
rodgerfox wrote: Tue 17 Jul 2018 12:31am Just read it man. Very straight forward....

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=95458
I read it.
I actually don't think you understand averages.
You think you do but you dont.
You think you are saying averages don't matter.
It is the quality of the players in each age group that matters.

That's what you seem to think your argument is.

But you are kidding yourself.
I'm quietly confident I know what my argument is.
congorozides wrote: Tue 17 Jul 2018 6:43pm Are we aiming for a flag or for 9th-10th?
His argument was a parkeysainter and blue sky brigade style piece to make all the current players and coaches feel good about themselves

He's saying we were on track in 2017 and narrowly missed out on finals because we had Rooy and Joey on the list. Basically, that's crap because Roo hobbled on 1 leg most of the year and Joey got injured and wasn't even top 10 in the B&F.

Basically he's happy with a natural progression and for Saints on track back to narrowly missing finals - Con Gorozidis nailed it


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Scollop wrote: Tue 17 Jul 2018 10:32pm
rodgerfox wrote: Tue 17 Jul 2018 1:48pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Tue 17 Jul 2018 12:36am
rodgerfox wrote: Tue 17 Jul 2018 12:31am Just read it man. Very straight forward....

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=95458
I read it.
I actually don't think you understand averages.
You think you do but you dont.
You think you are saying averages don't matter.
It is the quality of the players in each age group that matters.

That's what you seem to think your argument is.

But you are kidding yourself.
I'm quietly confident I know what my argument is.
congorozides wrote: Tue 17 Jul 2018 6:43pm Are we aiming for a flag or for 9th-10th?
His argument was a parkeysainter and blue sky brigade style piece to make all the current players and coaches feel good about themselves

He's saying we were on track in 2017 and narrowly missed out on finals because we had Rooy and Joey on the list. Basically, that's crap because Roo hobbled on 1 leg most of the year and Joey got injured and wasn't even top 10 in the B&F.

Basically he's happy with a natural progression and for Saints on track back to narrowly missing finals - Con Gorozidis nailed it
Not really.

My argument is very simply exactly what I wrote. And I've written it multiple times over the past few months.

No need to try to reinterpret it.


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