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The coach has lost the players

Post: # 1750485Post Myron Gaines »

There’s enough evidence to suggest Richo has lost the players & they no longer have faith in him as a coach nor as someone they can trust.

Richo continues to avoid accountability & has targeted the players as underperforming. The first step in his public blaming of the players was being party to the sacking of the list manager, meaning he’s blaming the list ie the players.

With regard to the players lacking faith in Richo’s ability to construct a successful game plan & execute such game plan on match day went into overdrive during the Geelong match earlier in the year. I suspect it all ‘clicked’ & they suddenly thought “this bloke clearly has no idea what he is doing”.

Murmurs that players, which includes some of our brightest young stars are not committed to the club long term because they believe in the current environment they are being deprived the opportunity to flourish as footballers.

Apparently, Gresham has a contract in front of him however won’t re-sign because he wants to see where the club is at next year. Billings is being pressured by family & his manager to consider his options. Acres looking to return to WA. Dunstan to SA. Brownless has been encouraging Paddy to consider moving to Geelong for two years.

Richo, Finnis & Summers are slowly ripping the heart out of this club we love. They must be moved on before they do even more damage. The only thing holding the club together before this year was Nick Riewoldt & Joey Montagna. Since they’ve left, the cracks have appeared more obvious.

Simply, the majority of supporters & players have lost confidence in the club & it’s become untenable.


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He lost them before this season started. Back in 2016.


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Great post and just about sums it up. We have some talent but they are working with Ronald McDonald's. Understand why the young players want to leave. We provide no development, poor coaching, lack of leadership and direction. Ouch. just watch the supporters and AFL walk. Well done Richo, Summers and Finnis. At least some have day jobs


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OK, no names, no pack drill. My wife works with the mother of one of our young players. A young player that many have queried not getting more games, a young player that on the rare occasions he has had a chance has acquitted himself reasonably well, and who is a good user of the ball. According to this player's mother, she wants him traded out of the club and hates Richo. Reckons he basically hasn't spoken to her son this season!! Now I will preface this by saying that I realise it is a biased point of view, but I am reporting it as it was relayed it to me, and according to her Richo has his little clique of favourite players and basically barely speaks to the rest of the playing list. Any wonder we have waited so long to see some of these kids in the seniors, and why there is a palpable lack of "team" in our team!!


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True Believer wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 3:30pm OK, no names, no pack drill. My wife works with the mother of one of our young players. A young player that many have queried not getting more games, a young player that on the rare occasions he has had a chance has acquitted himself reasonably well, and who is a good user of the ball. According to this player's mother, she wants him traded out of the club and hates Richo. Reckons he basically hasn't spoken to her son this season!! Now I will preface this by saying that I realise it is a biased point of view, but I am reporting it as it was relayed it to me, and according to her Richo has his little clique of favourite players and basically barely speaks to the rest of the playing list. Any wonder we have waited so long to see some of these kids in the seniors, and why there is a palpable lack of "team" in our team!!
Can you get your wife to say hi to Brandon Whites mum.

In all seriousness was told last week that Dunstan and Richo have had a falling out and don’t talk.


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Sounds like Brandon White.


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There was an incident a few weeks ago that was bad enough that Richo had to apologise to the entire group.
The players can't stand him.


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jaxons wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 4:18pm There was an incident a few weeks ago that was bad enough that Richo had to apologise to the entire group.
The players can't stand him.
Well then he’s cooked if we didn’t have enough evidence already
Am a little concerned he’s involved in discussions with Ratten though..


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Junior wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 3:40pm
In all seriousness was told last week that Dunstan and Richo have had a falling out and don’t talk.
over the last few weeks during AR's little sojourns down to the bench I have seen both Hickey and Geary have fairly animated conversations with him
increasing signs that there is a disconnection between coach, plan and players


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True Believer wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 3:30pm OK, no names, no pack drill. My wife works with the mother of one of our young players. A young player that many have queried not getting more games, a young player that on the rare occasions he has had a chance has acquitted himself reasonably well, and who is a good user of the ball. According to this player's mother, she wants him traded out of the club and hates Richo. Reckons he basically hasn't spoken to her son this season!! Now I will preface this by saying that I realise it is a biased point of view, but I am reporting it as it was relayed it to me, and according to her Richo has his little clique of favourite players and basically barely speaks to the rest of the playing list. Any wonder we have waited so long to see some of these kids in the seniors, and why there is a palpable lack of "team" in our team!!
No surprise to hear that. And all those posters blaming the players, saying they lack substance and will.....what do you expect when the leader engenders zero respect. Sounds like it’s getting really poisonous down there. Bring on the end of the year and Richardson’s sacking. Can’t carry on into next year. It just can’t.


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jaxons wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 4:18pm There was an incident a few weeks ago that was bad enough that Richo had to apologise to the entire group.
The players can't stand him.
So, either you are just making s*** up and have no clue or you do work for the club and are happy to spill your guts on a public forum and should be fired immediately. Either way you are <edited by mods>

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White should have played a lot more.


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BringBackMadDog wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 4:48pm
jaxons wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 4:18pm There was an incident a few weeks ago that was bad enough that Richo had to apologise to the entire group.
The players can't stand him.
So, either you are just making s*** up and have no clue or you do work for the club and are happy to spill your guts on a public forum and should be fired immediately. Either way you are a creep
Or none of your options above.


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BringBackMadDog wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 4:48pm
jaxons wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 4:18pm There was an incident a few weeks ago that was bad enough that Richo had to apologise to the entire group.
The players can't stand him.
So, either you are just making s*** up and have no clue or you do work for the club and are happy to spill your guts on a public forum and should be fired immediately. Either way you are a creep
Or about a million different scenarios...

Do you ever have anything to say that isn’t attacking someone.
Geeez you must be a miserable person


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BringBackMadDog wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 4:48pm So, either you are just making s*** up and have no clue or you do work for the club and are happy to spill your guts on a public forum and should be fired immediately. Either way you are a creep
perhaps a bigger mystery is how you get away with posting abuse like that

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Can someone just say what is happening.
Why did Richo have to apologise also? What is that about?

Sick of the cloak and daggers stuff. Otherwise, its all just heresay or made up.


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jaxons wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:19pm
BringBackMadDog wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 4:48pm
jaxons wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 4:18pm There was an incident a few weeks ago that was bad enough that Richo had to apologise to the entire group.
The players can't stand him.
So, either you are just making s*** up and have no clue or you do work for the club and are happy to spill your guts on a public forum and should be fired immediately. Either way you are a creep
Or none of your options above.
What’s today’s odds on richo retaining his job?


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parkeysainter wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:28pm Can someone just say what is happening.
Why did Richo have to apologise also? What is that about?

Sick of the cloak and daggers stuff. Otherwise, its all just heresay or made up.
Not posting on here for you lot anymore.


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parkeysainter wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:28pm Can someone just say what is happening.
Why did Richo have to apologise also? What is that about?

Sick of the cloak and daggers stuff. Otherwise, its all just heresay or made up.
Did you see the incident between Hickey & Richo on the bench the other week when he told Tom to get back on the park despite hardly being able to walk?


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Myron Gaines wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:35pm
parkeysainter wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:28pm Can someone just say what is happening.
Why did Richo have to apologise also? What is that about?

Sick of the cloak and daggers stuff. Otherwise, its all just heresay or made up.
Did you see the incident between Hickey & Richo on the bench the other week when he told Tom to get back on the park despite hardly being able to walk?
Nup. But players and coaches can argue. Its not the U/14's. Clarkson had plenty of biffs with his premiership stars.


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jaxons wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:35pm
parkeysainter wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:28pm Can someone just say what is happening.
Why did Richo have to apologise also? What is that about?

Sick of the cloak and daggers stuff. Otherwise, its all just heresay or made up.
Not posting on here for you lot anymore.
dont blame you given those guys' attacks really

but could you send me the occasional PM ? I will keep it to myself - promise


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parkeysainter wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:41pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:35pm
parkeysainter wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:28pm Can someone just say what is happening.
Why did Richo have to apologise also? What is that about?

Sick of the cloak and daggers stuff. Otherwise, its all just heresay or made up.
Did you see the incident between Hickey & Richo on the bench the other week when he told Tom to get back on the park despite hardly being able to walk?
Nup. But players and coaches can argue. Its not the U/14's. Clarkson had plenty of biffs with his premiership stars.
I’m talking about the coach telling his injured player to get back on the field which is an OHS issue. It isn’t the 80s anymore.


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Myron Gaines wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:42pm
parkeysainter wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:41pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:35pm
parkeysainter wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:28pm Can someone just say what is happening.
Why did Richo have to apologise also? What is that about?

Sick of the cloak and daggers stuff. Otherwise, its all just heresay or made up.
Did you see the incident between Hickey & Richo on the bench the other week when he told Tom to get back on the park despite hardly being able to walk?
Nup. But players and coaches can argue. Its not the U/14's. Clarkson had plenty of biffs with his premiership stars.
I’m talking about the coach telling his injured player to get back on the field which is an OHS issue. It isn’t the 80s anymore.
Maybe the docs cleared him though? Who knows.


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parkeysainter wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:45pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:42pm
parkeysainter wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:41pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:35pm
parkeysainter wrote: Sat 18 Aug 2018 5:28pm Can someone just say what is happening.
Why did Richo have to apologise also? What is that about?

Sick of the cloak and daggers stuff. Otherwise, its all just heresay or made up.
Did you see the incident between Hickey & Richo on the bench the other week when he told Tom to get back on the park despite hardly being able to walk?
Nup. But players and coaches can argue. Its not the U/14's. Clarkson had plenty of biffs with his premiership stars.
I’m talking about the coach telling his injured player to get back on the field which is an OHS issue. It isn’t the 80s anymore.
Maybe the docs cleared him though? Who knows.
He would have to be cleared by the doctor or the club would be in trouble with the AFL


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The more I read the more I realize that there has to do something drastic over the off season.
Right now I can only see us having a chance to beat Gold Coast, Carlton and Fremantle next year and those interstate teams only if we play them at home.
We are rudderless right now.


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