Adam Kingsley GONE // Ratten + Lade joining

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Adam Kingsley GONE // Ratten + Lade joining

Post: # 1752880Post shrodes »

The delistings continue :)

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2018-08-2 ... art-saints
St Kilda Football Club wishes to advise that assistant coach Adam Kingsley will leave the club to seek new opportunities.

Kingsley joined the Saints in 2011 and has spent the past eight years in various coaching roles, including most recently heading up transition.

General Manager of Football Simon Lethlean thanked Kingsley for his contribution to the Saints.

“Adam has played a key role in St Kilda’s coaching team over the past eight years and believes the time is right to take on a new challenge,” Lethlean said.

“We acknowledge that a change in environment is important for assistant coaches to continue to develop, and at the same time it provides an opportunity to add new voices into St Kilda’s football program.

“We wish Adam and his family all the best for the future.”
Ratten and Lade reportedly joining
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/brett- ... caba5cbea4
Foxfooty.com.au can reveal Brett Ratten will be Alan Richardson’s chief offsider in 2019, while Brendon Lade will also join the club from Port Adelaide.

Meanwhile, highly rated assistant Adam Kingsley is certain to link up with 2004 premiership teammate Damien Hardwick at Richmond, replacing Ben Rutten who foxfooty.com.au reported joined Essendon last week.
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Well there you go.


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Eventually it will whittle down to the real problem


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fugazi wrote: Mon 27 Aug 2018 11:36am Eventually it will whittle down to the real problem
Yes but unfortunately for 2019 looks like they’re rearranging the deck chairs without repairing the hole in the ship...


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Re: Adam Kingsley - GONE // Ratten + Lade joining

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"In 2011 and 2012, Ratten was Carlton’s senior coach and Richardson his most senior deputy. Now the roles will be reversed."

Well, that sounds like the budding of a perfect relationship. Not.


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Post: # 1752889Post bigred »

Ratten actually has some real coaching chops.

His senior record at Carlton does not tell the real story there. He got chopped by a completely dilusionary board.

Hawks assistant for a while.

Will be our next senior coach if our first month next year is anything like 2018.


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I can't accept it as coincidence that the year Kingsley takes over the role as 'Transition Coach' which was responsible for ball movement and switching between defence and offence, we totally and utterly sucked arse at ball movement, and switching between defence and offence.


Either he and/or Richardson had to go. It was a total non-brainer.


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rodgerfox wrote: Mon 27 Aug 2018 11:57am I can't accept it as coincidence that the year Kingsley takes over the role as 'Transition Coach' which was responsible for ball movement and switching between defence and offence, we totally and utterly sucked arse at ball movement, and switching between defence and offence.


Either he and/or Richardson had to go. It was a total non-brainer.
agree, hopefully both are out of the club sooner rather than later. Kingsley may be useful, and improve under a new coach and club, but was sinking at ours.


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Post: # 1752899Post mullet »

This is exactly what I wanted to hear from the club this week. I was hoping that we would see sackings and appointments straight away. I may just renew my membership (like as if I would never, but I was seriously thinking about it for the first time)


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Is it definate that Ratten and Lade are coming to us or just SS talk at the moment


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Was Kingsley the problem or is Richo?


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Post: # 1752904Post bigred »

Well if Kingsley goes to Richmond like it says above... Gives a fair old baseline to judge him on....


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Has this been confirmed re Ratten?


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Will be joined by a pair of ex sainters once their current duties are finalised


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saynta wrote: Mon 27 Aug 2018 12:55pm Will be joined by a pair of ex sainters once their current duties are finalised
Hayes and Harvey?

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Will probably be confirmed today that Ratten and Lade are in.


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The first coaches meeting;

Richo: "Okay guys you need to learn the game plan. The first thing is to be strong in the contest"

Ratten: "What's the second thing?"

Richo: "Sorry? Yeah nah, we umm, move Carlisle?"


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bigred wrote: Mon 27 Aug 2018 11:51am Ratten actually has some real coaching chops.

His senior record at Carlton does not tell the real story there. He got chopped by a completely dilusionary board.

Hawks assistant for a while.

Will be our next senior coach if our first month next year is anything like 2018.
Ratten was 3 points from a Prelim in 2011 with a pretty ordinary side. He was four goals from a Prelim in 2013 with a side that had half the talent of Sydney or Hawthorn. Then he got sacked. Malthouse coached the same side to only 7 wins the following year. Desperately unlucky to get the chop.


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SaintPav wrote: Mon 27 Aug 2018 12:31pm Was Kingsley the problem or is Richo?
An excellent question and one that has now been asked by the club. Much like in business - keep taking away the excuses and you'll soon find the root of the problem.

A mate of mine made an excellent comparison earlier this morning which I've since given thought to expanding.

Mate's contention is that Kingsley is our Neeld. My extension of that is that he's either correct ... or Richo is our Neeld.

Either way - I'm happy that we've either just found out the answer or, we're a significant step closer to doing so.


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SaintPav wrote: Mon 27 Aug 2018 12:31pm Was Kingsley the problem or is Richo?
Hmmm lets see if Sexton survives and that will provide the answer.


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Post: # 1752933Post saintspremiers »

A detusional Carlton board sacked Ratten in favour of Mick.

They thought Mick was the answer. They were delusional at the time and I told a Carltank board member this at the time.


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Legendary wrote: Mon 27 Aug 2018 1:12pm
bigred wrote: Mon 27 Aug 2018 11:51am Ratten actually has some real coaching chops.

His senior record at Carlton does not tell the real story there. He got chopped by a completely dilusionary board.

Hawks assistant for a while.

Will be our next senior coach if our first month next year is anything like 2018.
Malthouse coached in 2013, was the year Carlton beat Richmond in the elimination final after Essendon got dumped out of the finals and Carlton came in.

Ratten was 3 points from a Prelim in 2011 with a pretty ordinary side. He was four goals from a Prelim in 2013 with a side that had half the talent of Sydney or Hawthorn. Then he got sacked. Malthouse coached the same side to only 7 wins the following year. Desperately unlucky to get the chop.


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The Craw wrote: Mon 27 Aug 2018 1:27pm
SaintPav wrote: Mon 27 Aug 2018 12:31pm Was Kingsley the problem or is Richo?
Hmmm lets see if Sexton survives and that will provide the answer.
That's the other excellent question. If none of Kingsley, Sexton and/or Richo had gone - only the assistants - then we'd have been deluding ourselves. One down and hopefully Sexton to come.

I'd dearly love all three to go in order to provide some clear air but it's patently obvious now that unless some extreme outlier event occurs (say, the players roundly sh!tcan Richo in their exit interviews tomorrow and Wednesday) that they can't afford to pay Richo out nor can they afford the bad optics of sacking their 2nd coach in a row after (stupidly) extending him only 10 months ago.


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So Lade is confirmed:
http://www.saints.com.au/news/2018-08-2 ... ecure-lade

No way Ratten gets announced until the Hawks are knocked out. I'd expect Sexton to move on to create that "Director of Coaching" role for Ratten.


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Post: # 1752951Post Zed »

Havent seen anything official on Ratten yet. I hope its true. His record at Carlton was impressive given the list he had at his disposal.

I assume Lethers has identified that our game style did not work which is why Kingsley is gone - it was either him or Richo.

Im hoping like hell that Ratten gets to influence what game style we play.


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