Will Jack Steven play senior football again in 2019?

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The "Ins" this week should be Acres, Steven, Haneberry - plus a look at White?

The "Outs"?

Take your pick from Long, Parker, Hind, Lonie who all went missing v Adelaide

And McKenzie.

[prwilkinson]

Not much point playing him now. Same as Hannas.

I'm betting both will play this weekend.

Probably. They’ll hit decent match fitness just in time for the footy trip.

[Moods]

When NDS went, I was pretty sad.
If Jack leaves, I'll be gutted.
Really sad if he goes

Really? Why? NDS was twice the player Jack was/is

[WellardSaint]

When NDS went, I was pretty sad.
If Jack leaves, I'll be gutted.
Really sad if he goes

Really? Why? NDS was twice the player Jack was/is

Last yr when Saints came to play WCE in Perth,
after the Captain"s Run, Jack was heading to showers
but was happy to stop and sign my cap, leaving me as excited as a teenage schoolgirl seeing her fave rock star.

NDS was in the winter of his career, but I can"t bear to think of Jack tearing through the field in any other colours

[saintbob]

If he is walking, the answer is no

[kalsaint]

Can't see him forcing his way back, even if he does want to this season. Perhaps now we clearly have a good team forming he won't feel so much stress next year. I can only guess what it must have been like roving to Billy and Tom these last few years and being targeted every game. Also he would be digesting the prospect of a new coach and wondering who it might be.

Cant say I totally agree. Eagles seem to be managing just fine with Hickey as their current lead ruckman. Winning many quality clearances.

[kalsaint]

What have I missed?

Since when does he want to leave?


Since when would you offload a 4 x B&F winner who provides the pace and ball winning ability that we need so badly?

Geez, Barry, what rock have you been hiding under?

Cats want him and we still want him, simple as that. Don't get your nickers in a twist.

Looks llike we have to prepare for a range of possibilities, including, incredible as it seems, he might not be good enough to make the 22 anymore! Players like Jordan Lewis, Mitchell, Hodge etc., all decorated superstars and heroes, and all moved on around the age Steven will be next season, so the point about decorated club hero might not be watertight guarantees.

Boy I hope it 'aint so. I'm still hoping that had Stuv been in against Adelaide, somehow, we might have one it.

Right now, it seems that Hanners and Stuv both borderline..incredible.

If Jack needs to go to the Cats, perhaps we should get them to do the dirty work to trade for Ben King. Gold Coast would do well with some reliable, senior players to enhance their game leadership and decision making. There real value in procuring a Hodge type personality or 2. We might have to given something more to enable this exchange though.

[saint-stu]

He has played 3 at Sandy

He is a better player 2/3rds fit than Doulton Langlands.

Pointless comment.

Steven 180 games
Langlands 3 games

Any player 2/3rds fit is a liability.

I agree with Mart. Jack unfit is still much more impactful than Langlands. Bring him on for short bursts.

[samuraisaint]

Can't see him forcing his way back, even if he does want to this season. Perhaps now we clearly have a good team forming he won't feel so much stress next year. I can only guess what it must have been like roving to Billy and Tom these last few years and being targeted every game. Also he would be digesting the prospect of a new coach and wondering who it might be.

Cant say I totally agree. Eagles seem to be managing just fine with Hickey as their current lead ruckman. Winning many quality clearances.

Trading Hickey was the latest in a lot of very dumb decisions.
And no, Jack should have the rest of the season to just get right.
Play da St Kilda yute!

[Zed]

What have I missed?

Since when does he want to leave?


Since when would you offload a 4 x B&F winner who provides the pace and ball winning ability that we need so badly?

Geez, Barry, what rock have you been hiding under?

Cats want him and we still want him, simple as that. Don't get your nickers in a twist.

Looks llike we have to prepare for a range of possibilities, including, incredible as it seems, he might not be good enough to make the 22 anymore! Players like Jordan Lewis, Mitchell, Hodge etc., all decorated superstars and heroes, and all moved on around the age Steven will be next season, so the point about decorated club hero might not be watertight guarantees.

Boy I hope it 'aint so. I'm still hoping that had Stuv been in against Adelaide, somehow, we might have one it.

Right now, it seems that Hanners and Stuv both borderline..incredible.

If Jack needs to go to the Cats, perhaps we should get them to do the dirty work to trade for Ben King. Gold Coast would do well with some reliable, senior players to enhance their game leadership and decision making. There real value in procuring a Hodge type personality or 2. We might have to given something more to enable this exchange though.

A 3 way trade ? We lose Steven but gain King.
Like your out of the box thinking.
Would like to hold Stuv, as you just never know what we might achieve if he and Hanna’s are fully fit next year. But if he wants to go well that’s a different conversation.

[ausfatcat]

a few saying he is over weight anyone got a pic or vid?

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a few saying he is over weight anyone got a pic or vid?

It was obvious just watching Sandy on the YouTube box

[saint-stu]

People on the Twitters are talking like they know that Jack wants to leave. Does anyone know if this is true?

Tom Morris thinks we'll get a mid second round in return and now I want to spew . I rate Jack very highly and he's clearly our best player. He seems very underated by outsiders.

[ausfatcat]

a few saying he is over weight anyone got a pic or vid?

It was obvious just watching Sandy on the YouTube box

yep a vid with him running around he looks very under done

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

He looks a bit fat. Doing ok at Sandy but not great.

I could be wrong though.

[longtimesaint]

Hard to believe that he is carrying any fat as he had a 4 to 5 weeks mini pre season and now 3 VFL games.
He looks ok at training and someone said he was wearing two jumpers in vfl.
Also he is tagged in VFL and he would have more freedom in the seniors.

[shanegrambeau]

How much game time is he getting at Sandy? Maybe that is a clue..

[Special]

People on the Twitters are talking like they know that Jack wants to leave. Does anyone know if this is true?

Tom Morris thinks we'll get a mid second round in return and now I want to spew . I rate Jack very highly and he's clearly our best player. He seems very underated by outsiders.

We are a shyte team and they know we don’t have much bargaining power in this.

We are bound to get screwed whilst on the flipside we have to pay overs to get good players to come to us.

[tony74]

People on the Twitters are talking like they know that Jack wants to leave. Does anyone know if this is true?

Tom Morris thinks we'll get a mid second round in return and now I want to spew . I rate Jack very highly and he's clearly our best player. He seems very underated by outsiders.

Unfortunately more chance of going. Life has taken a few dodgy turns for one of our favourite sons.

[Saintmatt]

People on the Twitters are talking like they know that Jack wants to leave. Does anyone know if this is true?

Tom Morris thinks we'll get a mid second round in return and now I want to spew . I rate Jack very highly and he's clearly our best player. He seems very underated by outsiders.

Unfortunately more chance of going. Life has taken a few dodgy turns for one of our favourite sons.

Thanks for the update Tony74.

Sad to hear but, he's not the only one in life struggling. If JS does leave for his well-being then all I'd like in return is fair value. I don't care about the B & F's etc - that's history and he's hardly likely to win another one in this headspace ... wherever he ends up.

Surely Geelong's 1st rounder would be adequate although the thing I keep hearing now is that it'll likely involved Charlie Constable and possibly, their 4th string ruckman - Ryan Abbott.

[shanegrambeau]

Damn.
The lure of playing alongside Rhyce Stanley got him?
Or possibly Dangerfield, Abblet, Selwood....
We ain’t got nothin’ like dem boys.

[WellardSaint]

People on the Twitters are talking like they know that Jack wants to leave. Does anyone know if this is true?

Tom Morris thinks we'll get a mid second round in return and now I want to spew . I rate Jack very highly and he's clearly our best player. He seems very underated by outsiders.

Unfortunately more chance of going. Life has taken a few dodgy turns for one of our favourite sons.

Have a look at SEN- Richo says that last yr, Jack asked if he could be traded and AR said 'no Jack, we can't let you go, we need you' and 'the pull from Lorne has gotten stronger'...
So I thought AR going makes it easier for him to stay, but tony74 says it's not the coach

I will be gutted, can't believe he'll be in different colours

[WellardSaint]

Ryan Abbott is a 28 y.o. ruckman.
If he's that age, and I know ruckmen get better with age,
but surely he's only fringe?

Constable was pick #36 in 2015.
Is he any good?

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Yes. AA at U/18 level. Very good mid in the making. Sandy boy and mates with the Kings.

[saintsRrising]

Ryan Abbott is a 28 y.o. ruckman.
If he's that age, and I know ruckmen get better with age,
but surely he's only fringe?

We should insist on a pick, or a better player. I suspect the pick would be better. (Or a first round pick for Steven).
Geelong's rucks are only just ok and so they would not be offering him if he was any good.

We can pick up a state level ruck for free anyway.