TRADE: Saints picks 6 & 59 for Giants 12 & 18

[saintsRrising]

Saints trade picks 6 & 59 for Giants 12 & 18

[magnifisaint]

Very interesting!

[Bowey Boy]

Almost like they have a plan.

[saintsRrising]

Greater Western Sydney receives a first-round pick (currently No.6) and a fourth-round pick (currently No.59)
FROM: ST KILDA

St Kilda receives two first-round picks (currently No.12 and No.18)
FROM: GWS GIANTS

https://www.afl.com.au/news/trade/trade-tracker

[saintsRrising]

Total Traded Out by St Kilda 1909 points
Total Traded In 2253 points

Surplus equiv pick 46

[saintsRrising]

I must admit that I am a little surprised:

-As Pick 6 may not be low enough to not have Greens name called out by the Swans prior to it. = GWS Problem

-And Pick 12 may not be low enough to before Liam Henry's name is called out. = Maybe St Kilda problem if Freo think likewise

With 12 our early pick now I assume that Freo must be ok at receiving Acres or someone similar.

[saintsRrising]

Almost like they have a plan.

I am sure they do and I am fascinated what it is!

Acres to Freo with 12?

Maybe 18 for Howard and Ryder, or even Howard, Gray and Ryder?

[kosifantutti]

Welcome 12 and 18.
Thanks for your service 6 and 59

[SinCitySainter]

Didn't Freo demand 2 first round picks for Hill.

[ace]

Didn't Freo demand 2 first round picks for Hill.

Exactly, now we have two first round picks


We sold
pick 6 = 1,751 points
pick 59 = 158 points
total = 1,909 points
We got
pick 12 = 1,268 points
pick 18 = 985 points
total = 2253 points = roughly pick 3

We gained 344 points worth pick 45

GWS did this deal because they want to get in a first round pick before they have to 80% match a bib for their academy player Tom Green.
Melbourne, Adelaide or Sydney could still bid for Green given that everyone knows who is going to Gold Coast.

[evertonfc]

18 + Acres for Hill would seem to be very, very close to the mark.

[damienc]

18 + Acres for Hill would seem to be very, very close to the mark.

That would be good if we could make it happen. But I suspect it will be will be either 12 & 18 for Hill or 12 & Acres for Hill. Leaves 18 for Howard.

[PADDLEPOP1001]

I’ll be seriously pissed off if we get rid of Acres ,there are plenty on our list to move on but he has X factor & a good tank just hasn’t been coached properly or played in position! Hope he doesn’t go because it’s one we will regret !

[BarryGrogan]

Didn't Freo demand 2 first round picks for Hill.

Yep. Sounds like we just paid pick 6 and pick 59 for Hill effectively.

[evertonfc]

People are mistaking Freo's "demand" with what they will settle for.

They are trying to drive up the price, which is their right. But I think they'll settle for 12 or 18 + Acres. Both are reasonable deals for a wantaway 27-year old.

Bell is trying to make his name as a tough negotiator but it's looking a bit silly now. I'm hoping we get it done in the final hour of trade week.

[st.byron]

18 + Acres for Hill would seem to be very, very close to the mark.

That would be good if we could make it happen. But I suspect it will be will be either 12 & 18 for Hill or 12 & Acres for Hill. Leaves 18 for Howard.

Would like to see something come back out way in this scenario. Port only have junk picks after 29 though.

[Zed]

Didn't Freo demand 2 first round picks for Hill.

So is it:
1. coincidence ? or
2. was it always part of the Saints plan to get Hill by offering 2 first rounders , or
3. did Freo get a sniff this was happening and make the ask public to try and snaffle both those picks

[prwilkinson]

Go Saints

[Sainter_Dad]

Didn't Freo demand 2 first round picks for Hill.

So is it:
1. coincidence ? or
2. was it always part of the Saints plan to get Hill by offering 2 first rounders , or
3. did Freo get a sniff this was happening and make the ask public to try and snaffle both those picks

I can't imagine that we are going to give both 12 and 18 to Freo - why would Freo take them after knowing that we got a free pick 45 for the trade - why would they not see it as the same as pick 6 and therefore no benefit???
It does not sweeten the deal if I go to the shops to buy an $50.00 item and rather than giving them $50.00 I give then 2 x $20.00. That only works on 5 year olds!

[magnifisaint]

Didn't Freo demand 2 first round picks for Hill.

So is it:
1. coincidence ? or
2. was it always part of the Saints plan to get Hill by offering 2 first rounders , or
3. did Freo get a sniff this was happening and make the ask public to try and snaffle both those picks

I can't imagine that we are going to give both 12 and 18 to Freo - why would Freo take them after knowing that we got a free pick 45 for the trade - why would they not see it as the same as pick 6 and therefore no benefit???
It does not sweeten the deal if I go to the shops to buy an $50.00 item and rather than giving them $50.00 I give then 2 x $20.00. That only works on 5 year olds!

Unless youre in the purple circle you will never know. No point trying to understand it.

[SinCitySainter]

I think they may go for it as pick 6 is too high a price for Henry as no one is likely to bid for him before 10.
However, they may see a bid come in the mid to late 1st round which with 18 they can match given you get a discount.
They also get to save some face as they came out with a somewhat ridiculous scenario and can now say they got the two first rounders they wanted.

[Devilhead]

12 or 18 is more than enough for Hill

[To the top]

Wholeheartedly agree Paddle

My preference would be to send Geary to Fremantle

Or Webster, McKenzie, Lonie and a number of others - preferably the lot of those who have been the millstone around the Clubs on field performance post the exit of Lyon

When we have won games over recent seasons Acres has been one of the consistent reasons - and confirmation of that was 4 wins and a draw in 2018 when Acres missed most of the season with injury - no coincidence

It is a pity we do not still have Longer to trade - and the never ending support of him as an AFL footballer on this Forum speaks for the assessments on here

[DownAtTheJunction]

I’ll be seriously pissed off if we get rid of Acres ,there are plenty on our list to move on but he has X factor & a good tank just hasn’t been coached properly or played in position! Hope he doesn’t go because it’s one we will regret !

Just starting to show his class. His attack on the ball in the forward half was really encouraging. Would be a serious loss.

[Joffa Burns]

Wholeheartedly agree Paddle

My preference would be to send Geary to Fremantle

Or Webster, McKenzie, Lonie and a number of others - preferably the lot of those who have been the millstone around the Clubs on field performance post the exit of Lyon

When we have won games over recent seasons Acres has been one of the consistent reasons - and confirmation of that was 4 wins and a draw in 2018 when Acres missed most of the season with injury - no coincidence

It is a pity we do not still have Longer to trade - and the never ending support of him as an AFL footballer on this Forum speaks for the assessments on here

Maybe I’ve missed something, but to the best of my knowledge your honor, there was only one forum poster and it appeared one former coach who rated the human lamppost highly, my take is most on this forum felt he was a liability.

As for Acres, you way overrate his performance to date.
At times he looks like the next Paddy Dangerfield and I’d like to keep him, but he’s got to start performing consistently to deliver on his talent.

I agree that if we let him go he might be a big improver and embarrass us, but will he reach his potential as a saint?