Saints v Hawks Marsh Cup Match Thread 2020

[saynta]

We might have also won the game if Andrew Lovett wasn't the sort of person that mistook a snore for consent!
Anyway, not sure Luke Ball was the difference between the two teams.

Of course he was in that drawn game. Have you ever watched it?

Didn't say he didn't play...I said that he wasn't the difference.
13 possessions is hardly a noteworthy game.

I don;t know where you are getting your stats from but they are clearly wrong/

He had 15 kicks 10 handpasses and 7 marks.

In the replay he did...In the drawn game he didn't.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2 ... 00925.html

OK.

[damienc]

Hunter Clark is just pure silk

How good is his left, I had to check to see if he was actually a left footer

The best way to describe him is ambidextrous.

He can kick equally well with both feet.

A unique talent.

[Spinner]

Hill improved significantly under Lyon ...

Huh? Really?

Yeah, amazing isn’t it.

Now he’s worth double the pay (and triple the draft picks) he was 3 years ago.

My house is worth a shitload more now than what it was worth when I bought it 3 years ago too.

It's in far worse condition now too.

Good analogy, didn’t realise the value profile of a house is the same as a football player.

We should keep Hill on the list for 30 years.

[BarryGrogan]

Hill improved significantly under Lyon ...

Huh? Really?

Yeah, amazing isn’t it.

Now he’s worth double the pay (and triple the draft picks) he was 3 years ago.

My house is worth a shitload more now than what it was worth when I bought it 3 years ago too.

It's in far worse condition now too.

Good analogy, didn’t realise the value profile of a house is the same as a football player.

We should keep Hill on the list for 30 years.

The analogy was highlighting how foolish your post was.

The point is that quality doesn't dictate price, the market does.

[Spinner]

Hill improved significantly under Lyon ...

Huh? Really?

Yeah, amazing isn’t it.

Now he’s worth double the pay (and triple the draft picks) he was 3 years ago.

My house is worth a shitload more now than what it was worth when I bought it 3 years ago too.

It's in far worse condition now too.

Good analogy, didn’t realise the value profile of a house is the same as a football player.

We should keep Hill on the list for 30 years.

The analogy was highlighting how foolish your post was.

The point is that quality doesn't dictate price, the market does.

So you’re saying Hill isn’t worth it? And not worth being the best paid player on the list?

Talking about foolish...

[BarryGrogan]

Hill improved significantly under Lyon ...

Huh? Really?

Yeah, amazing isn’t it.

Now he’s worth double the pay (and triple the draft picks) he was 3 years ago.

My house is worth a shitload more now than what it was worth when I bought it 3 years ago too.

It's in far worse condition now too.

Good analogy, didn’t realise the value profile of a house is the same as a football player.

We should keep Hill on the list for 30 years.

The analogy was highlighting how foolish your post was.

The point is that quality doesn't dictate price, the market does.

So you’re saying Hill isn’t worth it? And not worth being the best paid player on the list?

Talking about foolish...

That's a totally different argument.

Your statement was that he improved significantly under Lyon.

I don't think I agree with that. But you used his market price as evidence that he had improved. I don't agree with that premise either.

[Spinner]

Hill improved significantly under Lyon ...

Huh? Really?

Yeah, amazing isn’t it.

Now he’s worth double the pay (and triple the draft picks) he was 3 years ago.

My house is worth a shitload more now than what it was worth when I bought it 3 years ago too.

It's in far worse condition now too.

Good analogy, didn’t realise the value profile of a house is the same as a football player.

We should keep Hill on the list for 30 years.

The analogy was highlighting how foolish your post was.

The point is that quality doesn't dictate price, the market does.

So you’re saying Hill isn’t worth it? And not worth being the best paid player on the list?

Talking about foolish...

That's a totally different argument.

Your statement was that he improved significantly under Lyon.

I don't think I agree with that. But you used his market price as evidence that he had improved. I don't agree with that premise either.

Yet you don’t provide any logic as to why.

How many posts will it take? We are up to 4 without an ounce of reasoning from you.

[BarryGrogan]

Yet you don’t provide any logic as to why.

How many posts will it take? We are up to 4 without an ounce of reasoning from you.

I just don't see any evidence to suggest that he improved significantly under Lyon.

[saynta]

Yet you don’t provide any logic as to why.

How many posts will it take? We are up to 4 without an ounce of reasoning from you.

I just don't see any evidence to suggest that he improved significantly under Lyon.

Have yo agree with you there. He was already a premiership player when he shipped out West and anyway I can't readily think of any player who improved under that lying tosser. There maybe one, but I can't put a name to him.

[asiu]

that would have been zac dawson

[takeaway]

Yet you don’t provide any logic as to why.

How many posts will it take? We are up to 4 without an ounce of reasoning from you.

I just don't see any evidence to suggest that he improved significantly under Lyon.

Have yo agree with you there. He was already a premiership player when he shipped out West and anyway I can't readily think of any player who improved under that lying tosser. There maybe one, but I can't put a name to him.

So maybe only one player improved under Lyon? Yet we played in multiple finals and 3 GFs and won 20 games straight in H & A in 2009. With all the players just treading water? What a coach! Give Ratts a year, then get him back!

[Spinner]

Yet you don’t provide any logic as to why.

How many posts will it take? We are up to 4 without an ounce of reasoning from you.

I just don't see any evidence to suggest that he improved significantly under Lyon.

5 posts now.

Still waiting to show you’re not a waste of time.

[BarryGrogan]

Yet you don’t provide any logic as to why.

How many posts will it take? We are up to 4 without an ounce of reasoning from you.

I just don't see any evidence to suggest that he improved significantly under Lyon.

5 posts now.

Still waiting to show you’re not a waste of time.

Sorry, you've lost me.

What are you waiting for?

[Spinner]

Yet you don’t provide any logic as to why.

How many posts will it take? We are up to 4 without an ounce of reasoning from you.

I just don't see any evidence to suggest that he improved significantly under Lyon.

5 posts now.

Still waiting to show you’re not a waste of time.

Sorry, you've lost me.

What are you waiting for?

6 now. Details in posts above.

Confirmed time waster.

[BarryGrogan]

Yet you don’t provide any logic as to why.

How many posts will it take? We are up to 4 without an ounce of reasoning from you.

I just don't see any evidence to suggest that he improved significantly under Lyon.

5 posts now.

Still waiting to show you’re not a waste of time.

Sorry, you've lost me.

What are you waiting for?

6 now. Details in posts above.

Confirmed time waster.

??

As far as I can see - I've simply disagreed with your statement that Hill improved significantly under Lyon.

I stated why I disagreed with it:

I just don't see any evidence to suggest that he improved significantly under Lyon.

Not sure what else you're waiting for?

[Bernard Shakey]

Will you idiots please stop filling this forum with your infantile squabbling and also please stop quoting the whole thread

[The Fireman]

Will you idiots please stop filling this forum with your infantile squabbling and also please stop quoting the whole thread

lol this is SS... check out bazzas skills of making that happen

[BarryGrogan]

Will you idiots please stop filling this forum with your infantile squabbling and also please stop quoting the whole thread

lol this is SS... check out bazzas skills of making that happen

Hey, to be fair, I'm being pressured to respond. I'm just trying to determine WTF I'm supposed to be responding to.

[Moods]

Yet you don’t provide any logic as to why.

How many posts will it take? We are up to 4 without an ounce of reasoning from you.

I just don't see any evidence to suggest that he improved significantly under Lyon.

Have yo agree with you there. He was already a premiership player when he shipped out West and anyway I can't readily think of any player who improved under that lying tosser. There maybe one, but I can't put a name to him.

Hill definitely improved at Freo. Any Hawk fan will tell you that. He was a good player at the hawks. Now he's a great player. Stevie Milne definitely became a better more consistent player under Lyon. I would argue that Riewoldt became a more rounded player under Lyon. Suddenly he was laying great tackles and chasing. Sam Fisher definitely improved under Lyon as did Gwilt as did Gilbert as did heaps of Saints players. You can hate Lyon as much as you like, but he has taken two clubs who haven't played in GF's ever or rarely to GF's. He could coach.

Luke Ball's game in the 2010 drawn GF was very average. IN the replayed GF when everyone played well he was very good. His game in the 09 GF is one of the most overated games I have seen. He was serviceable in conditions tailor made for him and yet ppl carry on like he dominated the whole game. Problem was we never got any run and carry from him and his kicking was Tony Shaw like by the end of his time with us. No one doubted his courage and will for the contest.

[asiu]

No one doubted his courage and will for the contest.

except lyon

might been handy in that last quarter then
against the cats

[6621104]

Having been away I have just watched the replay and ask any chance we can get back on track- I could start a new thread perhaps but as it is pertinent to the topic- why has Coffield not had a mention. Yes- he did on occasion take on a little too much but in the main he was good- vision, positioning, disposal all improving. A work in progress but "pleasing"

[sunsaint]

coffield did get mentioned in this thread and only a page back
Consensus is: Good