in defence of rats and our players

[nostalgicsaint]

Thought that was a mature performance.

They had their extra behind the ball, early on we bombed away but with no king and membery there it didn't work so we adjusted.

What Clarkson whining is effectively saying is he was outcoached or his side isn't good enough. Either way better off saying nothing.

I laugh at comments from people on this forum who are scathing on our developing side and Rats. They complain we don't have a plan b and just bomb the ball, then we show a different style which gets it done and they still complain.

We're not a premiership contender yet.

Most had us pegged as a side between sixth and twelfth at the start of the year with serious concerns around how our club would gel given significant coaching and player changes.

We're at the top end of that range at the moment which is a great result. Enjoy the journey rather than getting frustrated we are not already in contention, it's a much more enjoyable way to support the team.

Positives today.

Marshall showed how dangerous he can be forward
Seb ross back in some better form
Showed signs of being able to adjust on the run
Steele is elite
Serious players in carlisle, skunk, King and maybe even hammers to come back in

[saynta]

AFL site had Seb as our best player

23 disposals..the most for the saints.

BEST
St Kilda: Ross, Hill, Marshall, Jones, Coffield, Long

[The Fireman]

Was so disappointed

[saintspremiers]

Easily our worst win of the year.

Was a Richo type performance.

Lucky we had Hill running like Forrest

[bangaulegend]

AFL site had Seb as our best player

23 disposals..the most for the saints.

BEST
St Kilda: Ross, Hill, Marshall, Jones, Coffield, Long

He was ok stats can be flattering sometimes . I didn't give him a vote but he was far from our worst

[saynta]

A win is a win is a f****** win ffs

[Goose is king]

I was so disappointed in the performance but if we started better and controlled the game for a 14 point win it may of felt a bit better

[saynta]

AFL site had Seb as our best player

23 disposals..the most for the saints.

BEST
St Kilda: Ross, Hill, Marshall, Jones, Coffield, Long

He was ok stats can be flattering sometimes . I didn't give him a vote but he was far from our worst

Thats very f****** big of you to concede he was far from our worst.

[bangaulegend]

A win is a win is a f****** win ffs

F---ing oath it is & ffs I'm not bagging him I just did't think he was anything special today & as I said he was far from our worst but that's IMO

[saynta]

Well you are entitled to your opinion even if it is completely uninformed.

[bangaulegend]

AFL site had Seb as our best player

23 disposals..the most for the saints.

BEST
St Kilda: Ross, Hill, Marshall, Jones, Coffield, Long

He was ok stats can be flattering sometimes . I didn't give him a vote but he was far from our worst

Thats very f****** big of you to concede he was far from our worst.

Saynta you can have your opinion mate I don't care that you don't agree with me or anyone else on the forum . I'm not posting to be a every ones favourite I post what I think same as you

[saynta]

AFL site had Seb as our best player

23 disposals..the most for the saints.

BEST
St Kilda: Ross, Hill, Marshall, Jones, Coffield, Long

He was ok stats can be flattering sometimes . I didn't give him a vote but he was far from our worst

Thats very f****** big of you to concede he was far from our worst.

Saynta you can have your opinion mate I don't care that you don't agree with me or anyone else on the forum . I'm not posting to be a every ones favourite I post what I think same as you

Yep. Just I think this week people's votes are based on prejudices rather than footy knowledge. Clear to me.

Just my opinion.

[bangaulegend]

AFL site had Seb as our best player

23 disposals..the most for the saints.

BEST
St Kilda: Ross, Hill, Marshall, Jones, Coffield, Long

He was ok stats can be flattering sometimes . I didn't give him a vote but he was far from our worst

Thats very f****** big of you to concede he was far from our worst.

Saynta you can have your opinion mate I don't care that you don't agree with me or anyone else on the forum . I'm not posting to be a every ones favourite I post what I think same as you

Yep. Just I think this week people's votes are based on prejudices rather than footy knowledge. Clear to me.

Just my opinion.

Yep just your opinion

[saynta]

AFL site had Seb as our best player

23 disposals..the most for the saints.

BEST
St Kilda: Ross, Hill, Marshall, Jones, Coffield, Long

He was ok stats can be flattering sometimes . I didn't give him a vote but he was far from our worst

Thats very f****** big of you to concede he was far from our worst.

Saynta you can have your opinion mate I don't care that you don't agree with me or anyone else on the forum . I'm not posting to be a every ones favourite I post what I think same as you

Yep. Just I think this week people's votes are based on prejudices rather than footy knowledge. Clear to me.

Just my opinion.

Yep just your opinion

Yeah, but I'm f****** right this time

[Impatient Sainter]

Agree with nostalgicsaint, but I think supporters would just like to see some of the dare and spark we showed earlier in the year leading into the finals. ATM we have a lot of important players not playing the best footy?

[suss]

Thought that was a mature performance.

They had their extra behind the ball, early on we bombed away but with no king and membery there it didn't work so we adjusted.

What Clarkson whining is effectively saying is he was outcoached or his side isn't good enough. Either way better off saying nothing.

I laugh at comments from people on this forum who are scathing on our developing side and Rats. They complain we don't have a plan b and just bomb the ball, then we show a different style which gets it done and they still complain.

We're not a premiership contender yet.

Most had us pegged as a side between sixth and twelfth at the start of the year with serious concerns around how our club would gel given significant coaching and player changes.

We're at the top end of that range at the moment which is a great result. Enjoy the journey rather than getting frustrated we are not already in contention, it's a much more enjoyable way to support the team.

Positives today.

Marshall showed how dangerous he can be forward
Seb ross back in some better form
Showed signs of being able to adjust on the run
Steele is elite
Serious players in carlisle, skunk, King and maybe even hammers to come back in

Very happy to get the win and agree with those positives, particularly Rowan Marshall - how good. Reminds me a bit of plugger leading out of the forward line.

A few more:

I thought I saw Ben Long’s best game today - some more maturity in his game.

Kent cops a bit on here but was excellent up forward.

I thought Patton did some nice things - keeps getting better.

Finally, Butler and Hill. Both great today. I knew Hill would be good but wow, Butler, steal of the trade period.

[Teflon]

Thought that was a mature performance.

They had their extra behind the ball, early on we bombed away but with no king and membery there it didn't work so we adjusted.

What Clarkson whining is effectively saying is he was outcoached or his side isn't good enough. Either way better off saying nothing.

I laugh at comments from people on this forum who are scathing on our developing side and Rats. They complain we don't have a plan b and just bomb the ball, then we show a different style which gets it done and they still complain.

We're not a premiership contender yet.

Most had us pegged as a side between sixth and twelfth at the start of the year with serious concerns around how our club would gel given significant coaching and player changes.

We're at the top end of that range at the moment which is a great result. Enjoy the journey rather than getting frustrated we are not already in contention, it's a much more enjoyable way to support the team.

Positives today.

Marshall showed how dangerous he can be forward
Seb ross back in some better form
Showed signs of being able to adjust on the run
Steele is elite
Serious players in carlisle, skunk, King and maybe even hammers to come back in

Very happy to get the win and agree with those positives, particularly Rowan Marshall - how good. Reminds me a bit of plugger leading out of the forward line.

A few more:

I thought I saw Ben Long’s best game today - some more maturity in his game.

Kent cops a bit on here but was excellent up forward.

I thought Patton did some nice things - keeps getting better.

Finally, Butler and Hill. Both great today. I knew Hill would be good but wow, Butler, steal of the trade period.

Just watching first half again
Ben Long easily set us up for 2-3 goals from his attack on the ball in defence
Top game today played superb

[Devilhead]

Was it me or did we try and transition through the middle of the ground more today?

[Scollop]

AFL site had Seb as our best player

23 disposals..the most for the saints.

BEST
St Kilda: Ross, Hill, Marshall, Jones, Coffield, Long

He was ok stats can be flattering sometimes . I didn't give him a vote but he was far from our worst

Thats very f****** big of you to concede he was far from our worst.

Saynta you can have your opinion mate I don't care that you don't agree with me or anyone else on the forum . I'm not posting to be a every ones favourite I post what I think same as you

Yep. Just I think this week people's votes are based on prejudices rather than footy knowledge. Clear to me.

Just my opinion.

Sebby had some possessions that didn't assist his team and the ball got stuck in congestion or he gets caught and his kick trickles off the end of his toes for about 3 metres. I wouldn't say that someone that gets the most possessions 'has to be' in the votes.

When a player does a dinky handball of half a metre to someone under heat and that player is forced to handball back and then Ross gets caught or has to rush a kick or a handball, then that is 2 possessions that are worthless (and it happened a couple of times during the match). Overall Seb was a good contributor but you have to reward players who impact. Players who set up several chains or players that win contested footy like Marshall deserve to be voted best on ground

[bigred]

Funny, in the game we lost against Geelong... They kinda played very similar to what we did today.

[bangaulegend]

AFL site had Seb as our best player

23 disposals..the most for the saints.

BEST
St Kilda: Ross, Hill, Marshall, Jones, Coffield, Long

He was ok stats can be flattering sometimes . I didn't give him a vote but he was far from our worst

Thats very f****** big of you to concede he was far from our worst.

Saynta you can have your opinion mate I don't care that you don't agree with me or anyone else on the forum . I'm not posting to be a every ones favourite I post what I think same as you

Yep. Just I think this week people's votes are based on prejudices rather than footy knowledge. Clear to me.

Just my opinion.

Yep just your opinion

Yeah, but I'm f****** right this time

Yep you always are IYO

[st.byron]

Funny, in the game we lost against Geelong... They kinda played very similar to what we did today.

True. But that style of game - chipping it around, moving forward up the flanks and wings for a wide F50 entry or trying to centre it into F50 from between wind and HF - that style of game is dependent on quality ball use and pinpoint passes because the traffic is heavy, so it’s more susceptible to turnovers. And the quality teams hurt you on the turnovers way more than Hawthorn did.

[The_Dud]

This team won't go very far in the future if they accept/praise that kind of performance.

[Yorkeys]

1pm timeslots are the graveyard shift. The "normal" match vibe isn't there, and wind seemed difficult. Hawthorn have a top coach and I understand about 6 or 7 premiership players were out there for them - including a Brownlow winner in the middle. They have pushed sides recently only to go down late so form is not so hopeless.Hawks certainly came to play and blitzed us early - Saints regrouped, reeled them in and won. A number of Hawks goals came from desperation kicks that just floated over a defender who was in the best space. A few brilliant efforts picked us up showing under pinning class. Cliche: you can only beat what is in front of you. 1 pm start must mean something like an 8am departure from Noosa - just an unfamiliar prep. How's that for a defence argument M'lud, if indeed any wrongdoing, aesthetics - wise occurred.

[bigred]

Yeah true, but why do we have to justify it?