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Re: Banger

Post: # 1883108Post bigcarl »

Ghost Like wrote: Fri 20 Nov 2020 3:12pm Banger dodged a bullet. Noble given poisoned chalice.
Yes, probably a blessing in disguise


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Re: Banger

Post: # 1883109Post Saintmatt »

Strikes me that Rob is the modern day Brian Royal - the guy that was supposedly anointed as 'next in line' by everyone in the industry and despite having a million interviews for Senior jobs ... never got past the final hurdle.

No shame as far as I'm concerned - some people are great Assistants and not suited (personality wise) to being the main man.


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Re: Banger

Post: # 1883110Post supersaints2 »

I’d like Banger to leave the filth come home and be Ratts understudy, But I fought he will because I think Ratts will be our coach for at least five years
He needs to wait for the next senior coach sacking...


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Re: Banger

Post: # 1883137Post bobmurray »

i hope that's not it for Banger, how many times can he miss out before he gets overlooked completely.


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Re: Banger

Post: # 1883151Post Jacks Back »

Those greats of the era Buckley, Hird, Voss have all had a go at coaching but not Banger who was as good as any of them playing wise.


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Re: Banger

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Jacks Back wrote: Fri 20 Nov 2020 10:50pm Those greats of the era Buckley, Hird, Voss have all had a go at coaching but not Banger who was as good as any of them playing wise.
Tough gig at North, I was relieved for him.


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Re: Banger

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Jacks Back wrote: Fri 20 Nov 2020 10:50pm Those greats of the era Buckley, Hird, Voss have all had a go at coaching but not Banger who was as good as any of them playing wise.
The senior coach's job is at least 30or 40 % pr manager.
On that score I can't see Robert ever getting a senior job based on his inability to speak properly.
Collingwood big footy posters also don't rate him even as an assistant.
Haven't exactly seen the flags flying at any of the clubs he's been at!


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Re: Banger

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Who gives a s***


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Re: Banger

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Saintly66 wrote: Fri 20 Nov 2020 11:48pm Who gives a s***
Robert Harvey, his wife, his kids, his Mum and Dad, the rest of his family, the North Melbourne Football Club, the players of the North Melbourne Football Club, the supporters of the North Melbourne Football Club, the Collingwood Football Club, the players of the Collingwood Football Club, the supporters of the Collingwood Football Club, the St Kilda Football Club, the supporters of the St Kilda Football Club, anyone who played junior football with him, his friends, his ex-team mates, his teachers, his school mates, his neighbours, football journalists, and AFL watchers. That's all.


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Re: Banger

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Jacks Back wrote: Fri 20 Nov 2020 10:50pm Those greats of the era Buckley, Hird, Voss have all had a go at coaching but not Banger who was as good as any of them playing wise.
You can compare him to Figjam and Voss but not that f****** drug cheat Hird the turd. The Turd was never in the same league. :roll:
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Re: Banger

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saynta wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:00am
Jacks Back wrote: Fri 20 Nov 2020 10:50pm Those greats of the era Buckley, Hird, Voss have all had a go at coaching but not Banger who was as good as any of them playing wise.
You can compare him to Figjam and Voss but not that f****** drug cheat Hird the turd. He was never in the same league. :roll:
I think you're being a bit one eyed there saynta.
What went on during Hird's coaching career should not diminish his playing achievements.
I reckon if you surveyed 100 or even 1000 neutral supporters as to who was the better player between Harvey and Hird , Robert would come a very distant second.

AS Saints supporters we may think/know this to be unfair but we are in the minority!


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Re: Banger

Post: # 1883172Post Leo.J »

In order to be an effective leader of any kind you need to be a good communicator....

An AFL senior coach needs to be an elite communicator these days, this attribute is the most important part of the job.

Communication is not Bangers strong suit...from what I understand he ticks all the other boxes.


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Re: Banger

Post: # 1883173Post Enrico_Misso »

Banger spoke well at the 2019 B&F in his tribute to Danny.
But public speaking doesn't come naturally.

PS As a player Banger was every bit as good as Hird!


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Re: Banger

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Enrico_Misso wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:53am PS As a player Banger was every bit as good as by Hird!
I totally agree.


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Re: Banger

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Leo.J wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:58am
Enrico_Misso wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:53am PS As a player Banger was every bit as good as by Hird!
I totally agree.
Me too!
but Saynta was trying to say that he was in a different class to Hird!


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Re: Banger

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saynta wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:00am
Jacks Back wrote: Fri 20 Nov 2020 10:50pm Those greats of the era Buckley, Hird, Voss have all had a go at coaching but not Banger who was as good as any of them playing wise.
You can compare him to Figjam and Voss but not that f****** drug cheat Hird the turd. He was never in the same league. :roll:
Extremely different players, Harvs the accumulator and workhorse with a deft touch. Hird the one with a touch of brilliance and who could turn a game within a few minutes. Anyone who doesn’t see the affect that Hird had on games can’t have been watching with any objectivity.


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Re: Banger

Post: # 1883188Post Impatient Sainter »

Another good experience for Banger - but I really dont think he has the tools to be a senior coach. There is no doubt he would have the football nous, but there is a lot more to being a senior coach these days.


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Re: Banger

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amusingname wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 5:43pm
saynta wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:00am
Jacks Back wrote: Fri 20 Nov 2020 10:50pm Those greats of the era Buckley, Hird, Voss have all had a go at coaching but not Banger who was as good as any of them playing wise.
You can compare him to Figjam and Voss but not that f****** drug cheat Hird the turd. He was never in the same league. :roll:
Extremely different players, Harvs the accumulator and workhorse with a deft touch. Hird the one with a touch of brilliance and who could turn a game within a few minutes. Anyone who doesn’t see the affect that Hird had on games can’t have been watching with any objectivity.
I agree about Hird but the Harvey you described sounds more like Diesel Williams. Harves was a running machine that was close to being untackleable, brilliant evasive skills with excellent vision. It was his ability to push to each contest that got him his disposals making him untaggable in his era. Very courageous, something Hird was as well.


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Re: Banger

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whiskers3614 wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:33am
saynta wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:00am
Jacks Back wrote: Fri 20 Nov 2020 10:50pm Those greats of the era Buckley, Hird, Voss have all had a go at coaching but not Banger who was as good as any of them playing wise.
You can compare him to Figjam and Voss but not that f****** drug cheat Hird the turd. He was never in the same league. :roll:
I think you're being a bit one eyed there saynta.
What went on during Hird's coaching career should not diminish his playing achievements.
I reckon if you surveyed 100 or even 1000 neutral supporters as to who was the better player between Harvey and Hird , Robert would come a very distant second.

AS Saints supporters we may think/know this to be unfair but we are in the minority!
Harvey a DISTANT second to Hird?

Nonsense.

Surprised no one else has called you out on this.

Who gives a crap what other supporters think, if in fact, that is even true.


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Re: Banger

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Banger had that six-week stint as a stand in coach for us after Ross Lyon did his Pablo Escabo tunnel escape to Fremantle.

Does anyone know how it was perceived at the time? Good, bad indifferent?

It was the basically just the horse racing season i suppose...but did he have a hand in anything?


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Re: Banger

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SaintPav wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 9:01pm
whiskers3614 wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:33am
saynta wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:00am
Jacks Back wrote: Fri 20 Nov 2020 10:50pm Those greats of the era Buckley, Hird, Voss have all had a go at coaching but not Banger who was as good as any of them playing wise.
You can compare him to Figjam and Voss but not that f****** drug cheat Hird the turd. He was never in the same league. :roll:
I think you're being a bit one eyed there saynta.
What went on during Hird's coaching career should not diminish his playing achievements.
I reckon if you surveyed 100 or even 1000 neutral supporters as to who was the better player between Harvey and Hird , Robert would come a very distant second.

AS Saints supporters we may think/know this to be unfair but we are in the minority!
I have read some silly comments on here over the years,but Harvey a DISTANT SECOND that really is the silliest

Harvey a DISTANT second to Hird?

Nonsense.

Surprised no one else has called you out on this.

Who gives a crap what other supporters think, if in fact, that is even true.


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Re: Banger

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Surely the best evasive player of all time.

It's something to be proud of.

Best fend-off player: Dusty Martin.
Best handballer: Diesel Williams.
Best field kick: Darren Jarman.
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Re: Banger

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whiskers3614 wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:33am
saynta wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:00am
Jacks Back wrote: Fri 20 Nov 2020 10:50pm Those greats of the era Buckley, Hird, Voss have all had a go at coaching but not Banger who was as good as any of them playing wise.
You can compare him to Figjam and Voss but not that f****** drug cheat Hird the turd. He was never in the same league. :roll:
I think you're being a bit one eyed there saynta.
What went on during Hird's coaching career should not diminish his playing achievements.
I reckon if you surveyed 100 or even 1000 neutral supporters as to who was the better player between Harvey and Hird , Robert would come a very distant second.

AS Saints supporters we may think/know this to be unfair but we are in the minority!
Seriously? Hird may have been involved in flags and in more blockbuster games such as on ANZAC day, but overall Harvey has performed at a higher level for much longer than Jimmy

Harves nearly played 400 games. Hird played only 253.

Harves won back to back Brownlows and was probably BOG twice as many times as Hird would have achieved in his career

Harves had 8 x All Australian honours. Hird had only 5

Harves represented his State 8 times and got man of the match - Ted Whitten medal 3 times.

Harves also has an MVP as voted by his peers.

When Jimmy had the collision incident on field (which caused facial injuries likened to being involved in a high speed car crash) he went to Shane Charters for ‘advice’. That’s enough for me to question his ‘efforts’ on field and question whether they are tainted


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Re: Banger

Post: # 1883207Post saynta »

whiskers3614 wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 12:21pm
Leo.J wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:58am
Enrico_Misso wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 11:53am PS As a player Banger was every bit as good as by Hird!
I totally agree.
Me too!
but Saynta was trying to say that he was in a different class to Hird!
Hird was not as good as Banger IMHFO. I hope I have now made that clear.


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Re: Banger

Post: # 1883242Post Jacks Back »

shanegrambeau wrote: Sat 21 Nov 2020 9:24pm Banger had that six-week stint as a stand in coach for us after Ross Lyon did his Pablo Escabo tunnel escape to Fremantle.

Does anyone know how it was perceived at the time? Good, bad indifferent?

It was the basically just the horse racing season i suppose...but did he have a hand in anything?
Lyin left after the last game that season (a finals loss to the swans) so no coaching as such by Banger (I don't think).


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