Knobel, Ackland, Blake, Doc Clark, Kossie - any others?
I do recall a media comment about GT not rating ruckmen around that period, but it was most likely a media beat up or a misconstrued comment.
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Knobel, Ackland, Blake, Doc Clark, Kossie - any others?
IIRC GT basically said that a ruckman that could only compete in the centre hit outs and contribute SFA all around the ground was worthless.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 9:37pmKnobel, Ackland, Blake, Doc Clark, Kossie - any others?
I do recall a media comment about GT not rating ruckmen around that period, but it was most likely a media beat up or a misconstrued comment.
skeptic wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 9:48pmIIRC GT basically said that a ruckman that could only compete in the centre hit outs and contribute SFA all around the ground was worthless.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 9:37pmKnobel, Ackland, Blake, Doc Clark, Kossie - any others?
I do recall a media comment about GT not rating ruckmen around that period, but it was most likely a media beat up or a misconstrued comment.
This was construed by the somewhat biased media of the time to mean that he hated all rucks, didn’t see any worth in hit outs and would never recruit one.
I think your list is pretty spot on
Might be missing a certain Rix Rox Rucks though
Thank you Minny. Er, who is Manny, please?minneapolis wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 8:35amManny,Harves Man wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 12:14amWho is JB, please To the top?To the top wrote: ↑Mon 28 Dec 2020 10:28pm Missing from comment is that Brooks was Drafted by Port Adelaide at 15, but due to the rucking depth of Port Adelaide did not play a game
He was however regarded very highly as a forward/ruck at 198cm and 95kg - very athletic with a decent jump
So Port Adelaide were nurturing him and sorry to lose him
He played a handful of games at St Kilda before badly injuring a knee and restricting his leap
Perhaps you should look at the match where he kicked 3, the last of the Minor Round collecting some 15 possessions and taking 7 marks
There was a case that he should have been retained on that form - but he wasn’t
Then we played Port Adelaide with their ruck resources they also pushed forward and Brooks was played in a back pocket, so a lamb to the slaughter
And that was his AFL career
But for injury it could have been very different
There are many in the same boat
When seeing Rehn in Adelaide, with JB at the Casino after, JB said we have a better one on the books
Alves said “going onto a footy field like that you had better be able to play son”
And therein lay the problem which saw Everitt eventually traded out
Aka Hall - and Lappin
Sometimes there is a bigger picture being considered
I would guess that it is John Beveridge, our recruiting manager at the time.
Onwards.
Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 28 Dec 2020 6:03pm At the end off 2002 StKilda traded 2001 B&F winner ruckman Peter Everett to Hawthorn for picks #6 & #22.
Fair return? You could say yes.
Unfortunately we on traded #6 to PA (+#31) for Barry Brooks. With #22 we took Matt Ferguson.
So we lost Spider & #31 for Brooks & Ferguson.
We then spent the next decade recycling hack or retiring ruckmen from other clubs.
Not sure Gags, Gubby or Lethlean would sign off on that one
Another shocker. Been too many of them.Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 30 Dec 2020 10:08amJoffa Burns wrote: ↑Mon 28 Dec 2020 6:03pm At the end off 2002 StKilda traded 2001 B&F winner ruckman Peter Everett to Hawthorn for picks #6 & #22.
Fair return? You could say yes.
Unfortunately we on traded #6 to PA (+#31) for Barry Brooks. With #22 we took Matt Ferguson.
So we lost Spider & #31 for Brooks & Ferguson.
We then spent the next decade recycling hack or retiring ruckmen from other clubs.
Not sure Gags, Gubby or Lethlean would sign off on that one
Yeah, that's up there with the Russell Green to Hawthorn for King and Scott trade!!
Well Harves, that would be you, my Man.Harves Man wrote: ↑Wed 30 Dec 2020 3:10amThank you Minny. Er, who is Manny, please?minneapolis wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 8:35amManny,Harves Man wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 12:14amWho is JB, please To the top?To the top wrote: ↑Mon 28 Dec 2020 10:28pm Missing from comment is that Brooks was Drafted by Port Adelaide at 15, but due to the rucking depth of Port Adelaide did not play a game
He was however regarded very highly as a forward/ruck at 198cm and 95kg - very athletic with a decent jump
So Port Adelaide were nurturing him and sorry to lose him
He played a handful of games at St Kilda before badly injuring a knee and restricting his leap
Perhaps you should look at the match where he kicked 3, the last of the Minor Round collecting some 15 possessions and taking 7 marks
There was a case that he should have been retained on that form - but he wasn’t
Then we played Port Adelaide with their ruck resources they also pushed forward and Brooks was played in a back pocket, so a lamb to the slaughter
And that was his AFL career
But for injury it could have been very different
There are many in the same boat
When seeing Rehn in Adelaide, with JB at the Casino after, JB said we have a better one on the books
Alves said “going onto a footy field like that you had better be able to play son”
And therein lay the problem which saw Everitt eventually traded out
Aka Hall - and Lappin
Sometimes there is a bigger picture being considered
I would guess that it is John Beveridge, our recruiting manager at the time.
Onwards.
Thank you - another day, another nickname accrued.minneapolis wrote: ↑Thu 31 Dec 2020 2:32amWell Harves, that would be you, my Man.Harves Man wrote: ↑Wed 30 Dec 2020 3:10amThank you Minny. Er, who is Manny, please?minneapolis wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 8:35amManny,Harves Man wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 12:14amWho is JB, please To the top?To the top wrote: ↑Mon 28 Dec 2020 10:28pm Missing from comment is that Brooks was Drafted by Port Adelaide at 15, but due to the rucking depth of Port Adelaide did not play a game
He was however regarded very highly as a forward/ruck at 198cm and 95kg - very athletic with a decent jump
So Port Adelaide were nurturing him and sorry to lose him
He played a handful of games at St Kilda before badly injuring a knee and restricting his leap
Perhaps you should look at the match where he kicked 3, the last of the Minor Round collecting some 15 possessions and taking 7 marks
There was a case that he should have been retained on that form - but he wasn’t
Then we played Port Adelaide with their ruck resources they also pushed forward and Brooks was played in a back pocket, so a lamb to the slaughter
And that was his AFL career
But for injury it could have been very different
There are many in the same boat
When seeing Rehn in Adelaide, with JB at the Casino after, JB said we have a better one on the books
Alves said “going onto a footy field like that you had better be able to play son”
And therein lay the problem which saw Everitt eventually traded out
Aka Hall - and Lappin
Sometimes there is a bigger picture being considered
I would guess that it is John Beveridge, our recruiting manager at the time.
Onwards.
Minny & Manny, was shucksHarves Man wrote: ↑Thu 31 Dec 2020 8:27amThank you - another day, another nickname accrued.minneapolis wrote: ↑Thu 31 Dec 2020 2:32amWell Harves, that would be you, my Man.Harves Man wrote: ↑Wed 30 Dec 2020 3:10amThank you Minny. Er, who is Manny, please?minneapolis wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 8:35amManny,Harves Man wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 12:14amWho is JB, please To the top?To the top wrote: ↑Mon 28 Dec 2020 10:28pm Missing from comment is that Brooks was Drafted by Port Adelaide at 15, but due to the rucking depth of Port Adelaide did not play a game
He was however regarded very highly as a forward/ruck at 198cm and 95kg - very athletic with a decent jump
So Port Adelaide were nurturing him and sorry to lose him
He played a handful of games at St Kilda before badly injuring a knee and restricting his leap
Perhaps you should look at the match where he kicked 3, the last of the Minor Round collecting some 15 possessions and taking 7 marks
There was a case that he should have been retained on that form - but he wasn’t
Then we played Port Adelaide with their ruck resources they also pushed forward and Brooks was played in a back pocket, so a lamb to the slaughter
And that was his AFL career
But for injury it could have been very different
There are many in the same boat
When seeing Rehn in Adelaide, with JB at the Casino after, JB said we have a better one on the books
Alves said “going onto a footy field like that you had better be able to play son”
And therein lay the problem which saw Everitt eventually traded out
Aka Hall - and Lappin
Sometimes there is a bigger picture being considered
I would guess that it is John Beveridge, our recruiting manager at the time.
Onwards.
At the time I thought we paid major overs for him...
Extend Harvey’s contract for a year
Could not agree more if you poked me with a stick! At the time I thought it was unbridled insanity. I mean just for a start, the horrible person had a lot of bridge-building to do, and I do mean A LOT!!!
and Ball couldn't play more than 6 minutes at a time (according to the toss and genius Misson) ...
Yes, but my understanding is that Minneapolis has a heart as big as a whale. Sorry - first Dad joke for 2021.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Thu 31 Dec 2020 6:24pmMinny & Manny, was shucksHarves Man wrote: ↑Thu 31 Dec 2020 8:27amThank you - another day, another nickname accrued.minneapolis wrote: ↑Thu 31 Dec 2020 2:32amWell Harves, that would be you, my Man.Harves Man wrote: ↑Wed 30 Dec 2020 3:10amThank you Minny. Er, who is Manny, please?minneapolis wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 8:35amManny,Harves Man wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 12:14amWho is JB, please To the top?To the top wrote: ↑Mon 28 Dec 2020 10:28pm Missing from comment is that Brooks was Drafted by Port Adelaide at 15, but due to the rucking depth of Port Adelaide did not play a game
He was however regarded very highly as a forward/ruck at 198cm and 95kg - very athletic with a decent jump
So Port Adelaide were nurturing him and sorry to lose him
He played a handful of games at St Kilda before badly injuring a knee and restricting his leap
Perhaps you should look at the match where he kicked 3, the last of the Minor Round collecting some 15 possessions and taking 7 marks
There was a case that he should have been retained on that form - but he wasn’t
Then we played Port Adelaide with their ruck resources they also pushed forward and Brooks was played in a back pocket, so a lamb to the slaughter
And that was his AFL career
But for injury it could have been very different
There are many in the same boat
When seeing Rehn in Adelaide, with JB at the Casino after, JB said we have a better one on the books
Alves said “going onto a footy field like that you had better be able to play son”
And therein lay the problem which saw Everitt eventually traded out
Aka Hall - and Lappin
Sometimes there is a bigger picture being considered
I would guess that it is John Beveridge, our recruiting manager at the time.
Onwards.
But she was a moocher!Harves Man wrote: ↑Sun 03 Jan 2021 7:08amYes, but my understanding is that Minneapolis has a heart as big as a whale. Sorry - first Dad joke for 2021.Joffa Burns wrote: ↑Thu 31 Dec 2020 6:24pmMinny & Manny, was shucksHarves Man wrote: ↑Thu 31 Dec 2020 8:27amThank you - another day, another nickname accrued.minneapolis wrote: ↑Thu 31 Dec 2020 2:32amWell Harves, that would be you, my Man.Harves Man wrote: ↑Wed 30 Dec 2020 3:10amThank you Minny. Er, who is Manny, please?minneapolis wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 8:35amManny,Harves Man wrote: ↑Tue 29 Dec 2020 12:14amWho is JB, please To the top?To the top wrote: ↑Mon 28 Dec 2020 10:28pm Missing from comment is that Brooks was Drafted by Port Adelaide at 15, but due to the rucking depth of Port Adelaide did not play a game
He was however regarded very highly as a forward/ruck at 198cm and 95kg - very athletic with a decent jump
So Port Adelaide were nurturing him and sorry to lose him
He played a handful of games at St Kilda before badly injuring a knee and restricting his leap
Perhaps you should look at the match where he kicked 3, the last of the Minor Round collecting some 15 possessions and taking 7 marks
There was a case that he should have been retained on that form - but he wasn’t
Then we played Port Adelaide with their ruck resources they also pushed forward and Brooks was played in a back pocket, so a lamb to the slaughter
And that was his AFL career
But for injury it could have been very different
There are many in the same boat
When seeing Rehn in Adelaide, with JB at the Casino after, JB said we have a better one on the books
Alves said “going onto a footy field like that you had better be able to play son”
And therein lay the problem which saw Everitt eventually traded out
Aka Hall - and Lappin
Sometimes there is a bigger picture being considered
I would guess that it is John Beveridge, our recruiting manager at the time.
Onwards.