Ceilings

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
Vazelos
Club Player
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sun 12 Sep 2010 1:17am
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 317 times

Ceilings

Post: # 1893335Post Vazelos »

I’m interested in people’s opinions on the potential “ ceilings” of some of our young “ stars” and players.
How high can they go?
Max King- 20 yo- 18 games
Hunter Clark- 22 yo - just under 50 games
Nick Coffield- 21 yo- 35 games
Jade Gresham- 23 yo- 90 odd games
Rowan Marshall-25- 52 games
Jack Bytel- 21- 3 games

I’m intrigued by Gresham and Bytel I have a fair idea how the rest will go although you are never fully in the know.
Gresham has huge talent just his decision making/ foot skills are not polished sometimes.
There is some big wraps on Bytel internally at the club.
What are people’s thoughts?


cwrcyn
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4175
Joined: Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:35am
Location: earth
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 1357 times

Re: Ceilings

Post: # 1893338Post cwrcyn »

King is playing at around 30% of his full potential at this stage of his career
Gresham about 90%
Clark around 75%
Coffield around 70%
Marshall about 85%
Bytel about 20%

.....and some others to consider

Higgins around 70%
Battle around 60%
Paton (prior to injury) around 75%
Long around 80%

So....still a lot of improvement to come from that group. There are some unknowns, too, like Highmore, Allison, and Byrnes.


Vazelos
Club Player
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sun 12 Sep 2010 1:17am
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 317 times

Re: Ceilings

Post: # 1893339Post Vazelos »

Huge up side on ten players which is half the team. Even Howard has some some upside and Wilkie whilst playing at his maximum can enjoy more experience having played less than 50 games.
A name to look out for is Leo Connolly I think he is the next one that could come out and be something. Very skilled and has some talent I am hearing.


Yorkeys
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4523
Joined: Tue 13 Jun 2017 1:16pm
Has thanked: 1292 times
Been thanked: 1299 times

Re: Ceilings

Post: # 1893341Post Yorkeys »

This team could be anything. The could part dependent on:
- injuries which, although an unavoidable cost of doing business, have been unkind so far and in recent times, even to the extent of Gresh coping a bad back at a particularly unfortunate time last year and Rowan's foot (that's not to underestimate the impact of Ben P's training accident on the team and the young man himself);
- Another top ruckman; goodness knows from where;
- Two more big boys to play CHF, CHB.
These are big asks, so I think our ceiling at the moment is top 5.


User avatar
samoht
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5738
Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 10:45am
Location: https://www.amazon.com.au/Fugitive-Sold ... B00EO1GCNK
Has thanked: 580 times
Been thanked: 433 times
Contact:

Re: Ceilings

Post: # 1893343Post samoht »

Battle was settled and developing well at CHB - he was doing really well there for a while and tracking towards a breakout year.
He is still doing okay, mind you ... I rate him.


Vazelos
Club Player
Posts: 1261
Joined: Sun 12 Sep 2010 1:17am
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 317 times

Re: Ceilings

Post: # 1893363Post Vazelos »

Yes I rate Battle as well just hasn't had a settled position.


Fugazi1966
Club Player
Posts: 129
Joined: Thu 18 Mar 2021 8:27pm
Has thanked: 14 times
Been thanked: 42 times

Re: Ceilings

Post: # 1893371Post Fugazi1966 »

samoht wrote: Fri 02 Apr 2021 9:51am Battle was settled and developing well at CHB - he was doing really well there for a while and tracking towards a breakout year.
He is still doing okay, mind you ... I rate him.
I was very happy with him at CHB.


Scollop
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10634
Joined: Sun 11 Sep 2011 2:26pm
Has thanked: 3315 times
Been thanked: 2287 times

Re: Ceilings

Post: # 1893433Post Scollop »

Vazelos wrote: Fri 02 Apr 2021 8:26am I’m interested in people’s opinions on the potential “ ceilings” of some of our young “ stars” and players.

Gresham has huge talent just his decision making/ foot skills are not polished sometimes.

What are people’s thoughts?
Just on Gresh, I think it’s going to be harder to get him to change his habits rather than a guy like Longy who’s played under 50 games.

I think if Gresh’s previous coach gave him some tough love (like Longy’s received this week) maybe he’d be a better ball user.

If Gresh looks for a team mate with the first option from time to time he’ll improve his value to the team

If Longy can control his emotions and just keep attacking the footy and each contest with vigour he will continue to be a valuable member of the team. I think Long is usually a very good decision maker


Jacks Back
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6518
Joined: Sat 11 Jun 2011 4:52pm
Location: Here
Has thanked: 1186 times
Been thanked: 444 times

Re: Ceilings

Post: # 1893438Post Jacks Back »



As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”


St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
Post Reply