Claverino to debut

[bangaulegend]

Better than Highmore who arguably play the same role.

Clav has been in the system a lot longer than Tom pretty hard to say one is better than the other at this stage IMO

[B.M]

Tom is older than Clavarino and has played NEAFL and SANFL for 5 years.

Tom is only 192 and mid size

Clavarino is 196 and KP

[bangaulegend]

Tom is older than Clavarino and has played NEAFL and SANFL for 5 years.

Tom is only 192 and mid size

Clavarino is 196 and KP

I never said he was older or younger I said hasn't been in the system as long as Clav both will struggle to make it but I'm wiling to give them a chance we have nothing to loose lets see what they have

[The_Dud]

No point bringing him in for 1 game then just dropping him again. Hopefully he gets a few in a row to show what he’s got.

[avid]

Low impact on game, but I thought he looked pretty good.
Moved well, did a great tackle, took one or two very good intercept marks, handballed Ok, kicked very well.
Made me think he might be better than we thought.

[footynut]

Thought he was ok without doing anything special. I few times he was suprise by the pace of the game, but held his own overall. Decent first game and worth seeing how he goes against a better opposition.

[evertonfc]

Pleasing to see him play.

He was OK. That tackle was a beauty. The intercept Mark very nice. A lovely long kick near the end.

All moments rather than a consistent display. He has some ability and I’d like to see us give him the next two weeks.

He’s clearly playing for his career, but we equally have to give him an opportunity.

[Yorkeys]

Agree. North have a few good forwards and he held his own. Thought it was a promising debut.

[silverhalo]

First game I will cut him some slack wasn't great IMO but I'm happy to keep playing him to give him a chance to see if he has what it takes . We need to see if these blokes can get to the next level no point being on the list if you can't deliver . Our season is pretty much done so lets just see who has it & who doesn't

He was just serviceable but we need to keep playing him - he's been on the list now for 3-4 years and if he doesn't cut it now, then we need to cut him at year's end. That sounds brutal but small list sizes, you can't carry blokes that don't look like making it. Joyce is in the same boat.

[Ghost Like]

I think he's a keeper and will get better with more exposure and experience. Will know what is required to do this pre season after experiencing the pace and size of the AFL.

Let's face it, Carlisle and Frawley are both likely to be cut / retired at season's end. Unless we have some other ready made players wanting to come to us or snag a gem in the draft or pre season. We need Clav & Joyce to develop, not for backup but to demand a spot.

[Jacks Back]

I thought he looked very unfit and slow for AFL level. I'd give him a few more games but I can see why he hadn't played until yesterday.

[SaintPav]

Needs to play at least 4 consecutive games. If he has an average game, keep playing him.

That was a lovely intercept mark.

[cwrcyn]

Physical strength seems an issue if he's required to play on key forwards. Pace of the game caught him out a couple of times, too. Hard to make a proper assessment from one game. Ryan Byrnes has an awful debut, but now looks like he's okay. Have to hope that Clavarino can make the transition because we need another tall defender

[SemperFidelis]

I thought he showed promise. And he won’t show anything else unless he gets games at AFL level. I’ll give him a B on debut. Would have been B+ but he gave away a couple.

[shanegrambeau]

First game I will cut him some slack wasn't great IMO but I'm happy to keep playing him to give him a chance to see if he has what it takes . We need to see if these blokes can get to the next level no point being on the list if you can't deliver . Our season is pretty much done so lets just see who has it & who doesn't

He was just serviceable but _{we need to keep playing him} - he's been on the list now for 3-4 years and if he doesn't cut it now, then we need to cut him at year's end. That sounds brutal but small list sizes, you can't carry blokes that don't look like making it. Joyce is in the same boat.

I wonder if Tom Highmore will be so lucky.
Compare his game to Clav.

Highmore
11 possessions, 8 marks, 56 AFL fantasy points
...and likely to be dropped?
Clav
8 possessions, 4 marks, 24 points

[CURLY]

First game I will cut him some slack wasn't great IMO but I'm happy to keep playing him to give him a chance to see if he has what it takes . We need to see if these blokes can get to the next level no point being on the list if you can't deliver . Our season is pretty much done so lets just see who has it & who doesn't

He was just serviceable but _{we need to keep playing him} - he's been on the list now for 3-4 years and if he doesn't cut it now, then we need to cut him at year's end. That sounds brutal but small list sizes, you can't carry blokes that don't look like making it. Joyce is in the same boat.

I wonder if Tom Highmore will be so lucky.
Compare his game to Clav.

Highmore
11 possessions, 8 marks, 56 AFL fantasy points
...and likely to be dropped?
Clav
8 possessions, 4 marks, 24 points

Highmore makes far to many mistakes.

[B.M]

How do you rate Highmore by foot?

[saynta]

Because Dunstan is better atm and we want to win

[saynta]

Tom is older than Clavarino and has played NEAFL and SANFL for 5 years.

Tom is only 192 and mid size

Clavarino is 196 and KP

I never said he was older or younger I said hasn't been in the system as long as Clav both will struggle to make it but I'm wiling to give them a chance we have nothing to loose lets see what they have

That's big of you. I am sure both boys will be as pleased as s*** to hear that.

[shanegrambeau]

First game I will cut him some slack wasn't great IMO but I'm happy to keep playing him to give him a chance to see if he has what it takes . We need to see if these blokes can get to the next level no point being on the list if you can't deliver . Our season is pretty much done so lets just see who has it & who doesn't

He was just serviceable but _{we need to keep playing him} - he's been on the list now for 3-4 years and if he doesn't cut it now, then we need to cut him at year's end. That sounds brutal but small list sizes, you can't carry blokes that don't look like making it. Joyce is in the same boat.

I wonder if Tom Highmore will be so lucky.
Compare his game to Clav.

Highmore
11 possessions, 8 marks, 56 AFL fantasy points
...and likely to be dropped?
Clav
8 possessions, 4 marks, 24 points

Highmore makes far to many mistakes.

OK..take your word for it.
I note this incredible discrepancy.

Clav got 105 minutes

Joyce 100+ averaged across his three games.

Highmore?
5 games, average 57 mins game time.
In other words, he selected twice as often just to play half a game.
Interesting.

..wait edit...could it be he was sub..?

[Impatient Sainter]

Clavarino still has the gangly body of a teenager, he didnt look comfortable with the speed of the game and was often caught 'in no mans land'. He lacks core strength and will get exposed against better forwards, but I am happy for him to get a block of games to see how he goes.

Highmore thinks AFL footy is a walkathon, he hardly gets out of a trot he is that slow. Again he needs a significant preseason to get to AFL level fitness and get some dynamic running to his game. Not once has he taken the game on with his run or by foot, our defence goes into slowmo when he has the ball with his slow proppy 20 metre kicks.

[magnifisaint]

Keep playing these guys. Retire No2 or whatever his name is. Back is cooked.

[Munga]

I thought he looked very unfit

He ran the most KMs for the whole team! In his first match!!

Highmore makes far to many mistakes.

Say what??? He's already one of the cleanest players on our list!


I'm all for justified criticism, but this stuff is nuts

[saynta]

First game I will cut him some slack wasn't great IMO but I'm happy to keep playing him to give him a chance to see if he has what it takes . We need to see if these blokes can get to the next level no point being on the list if you can't deliver . Our season is pretty much done so lets just see who has it & who doesn't

He was just serviceable but we need to keep playing him - he's been on the list now for 3-4 years and if he doesn't cut it now, then we need to cut him at year's end. That sounds brutal but small list sizes, you can't carry blokes that don't look like making it. Joyce is in the same boat.

He was injured for the greater part of one year and only got to play in a couple of scratch matches last year.

He is only on the rookie last at the moment..first year..and the club shouldn't be in the hurry to "cut" him, at seasons end.

6' 5.2 Key backs don't grow on trees and sometimes take a couple of years to develop.

If we lose a couple more I would give Bytel, Oscar and Leo a block of games and see how they go. Joyce too.

[bangaulegend]

Tom is older than Clavarino and has played NEAFL and SANFL for 5 years.

Tom is only 192 and mid size

Clavarino is 196 and KP

I never said he was older or younger I said hasn't been in the system as long as Clav both will struggle to make it but I'm wiling to give them a chance we have nothing to loose lets see what they have

That's big of you. I am sure both boys will be as pleased as s*** to hear that.

Didn't say they wouldn't make & I hope they do they just need to keep improving & the rest will take care of it's self