CHB or 2nd tall defender

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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1915583Post SaintDippa »

Most pressing is get our quick mids fit so we can faster footy forward fifty. Gresh big out. Forwards we have are more than adequate. The quick movement against Cats, Lions, Pies (for 3Qers) showed what damage forwards can do when ball movement is rapid. Howard, Highmore, Clark and Wilkie are rock solid, Coff needs to get fitter and Frawley is a sound backup to play against the gorillas (probs first crack this week on Kennedy or Darling). Jake finished.
Game plan to move the footy quick and structured flood back is >> than getting more defenders. IMO. (emoji "Shoulder shrug and bewildered look")


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1915714Post wally »

I think we need a CHB, we looked alot better last year with Carlisle there even though he was on the decline,
Battle did do a good job filling in not perfect but not sure why he didn't get a go at it this year.


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

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Alex Rance?


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1916251Post B.M »

I think the last two games have highlighted the need for another tall back


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1916296Post happy feet »

B.M wrote: Sat 24 Jul 2021 10:03pm I think the last two games have highlighted the need for another tall back
Yes, absolutely. No more midgets please. In basketball there is an old saying…’tall players don’t get any shorter as the game goes on.” Same with AFL.


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1917613Post B.M »

Do we still think it’s not an important need?!

When Dougal wen down

It was Wilkie 6’3” against MacKay 6’8” and 10kg lighter


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1917616Post CURLY »

Yep Carlisle and Frawley being out hasn’t hurt us at all.


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

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Carlisle and Frawley are 30 and 33 respectively

One has a fked body, the other got talked out of retirement


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1917632Post Wayne42 »

Let's hope the Saints "brains trust" know where the deficiencies are and recruit accordingly, providing the required players are there to recruit.

Other clubs have the same needs in some areas so they will be competing for players both at trade time and in the draft.


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

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B.M wrote: Sat 31 Jul 2021 12:44am Carlisle and Frawley are 30 and 33 respectively

One has a fked body, the other got talked out of retirement
There on our list and if one played every game between themwe’d be better off.


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

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But they haven’t

And did we expect either to play every game

Both on one year deals and were probably seen as back ups


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1917644Post Wayne42 »

Frawley was cooked when he finished at Hawthorn, dumb, lazy recruiting by the Saints, it saved them looking for a younger Key Defender to recruit.


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

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B.M wrote: Sat 31 Jul 2021 12:29am Do we still think it’s not an important need?!

When Dougal wen down

It was Wilkie 6’3” against MacKay 6’8” and 10kg lighter
Same argument can be used in the ruck and to a much lesser degree the forward line, we know what happens if either RoMa or Paddy or both go out of our side and we know what happens if the porcelain giraffe has had zero contribution.

The backline has been the best performed department of 2021 when all backmen are on the field, not so much up in the forward line.

We need another tall forward urgently because we can't get our game going specifically our mechanism into F50 due to a structural issue that gives the midfield seriously limited options and the coaches limited set plays. We are so predictable into F50.

At least we can hope we can squeeze another year out of Carlisle and target a tall forward this year and target a key tall back in 2022.

Letting Bruce go was a mistake in hindsight.


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1917951Post PADDLEPOP1001 »

Should chase Clurey from Port Adelaide was a mad Saints supporter as a kid & could complement our backline!


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

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PADDLEPOP1001 wrote: Sun 01 Aug 2021 12:27pm Should chase Clurey from Port Adelaide was a mad Saints supporter as a kid & could complement our backline!
No jokes I actually think being a mad Saints supporters is something our recruiters actively search for in a player, how many players on the list were mad Saints supporters, King and Higgins?


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1917958Post cwrcyn »

Key position players are really hard to find. We have Sharman and Allison at 193cm and 195cm and we have Joyce at 195 and Clavarino at 197. Only one has the physical strength to play key position and that's Joyce. Will Clavarino be strong enough in another years time?. Unlikely. Sharman and Allison both have slender bodies and need to put on some weight.


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

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Wood should be trialled in defence


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1918084Post saint6709 »

We need something left field I think - like Scache from WB - hopefully whoever has the job to find these type of guys and get them to the club is doing a good job - we need them to be


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

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We could play Ben King at CHB..?


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

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Vortex wrote: Sun 01 Aug 2021 12:45pm
PADDLEPOP1001 wrote: Sun 01 Aug 2021 12:27pm Should chase Clurey from Port Adelaide was a mad Saints supporter as a kid & could complement our backline!
No jokes I actually think being a mad Saints supporters is something our recruiters actively search for in a player, how many players on the list were mad Saints supporters, King and Higgins?
Jones, Sinclair
But if that theory was true
Dunstan Martin would be playing for us


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1919382Post Vortex »

It's going to be incredibly interesting watching how the Bulldogs perform without Josh.

The Lions system turned to crap after Hipwood went down in their game against us and was starting to get a hold on the game before that with the help of Daniher as a decoy.

Brisbane haven't look the same since losing Hipwood.

Obviously Naughton has also been finding his feet with Josh in the side as his decoy.

Just highlighting the importance of two key talls especially for a young and developing forward like King.

This could really hurt the Dogs chances of a flag.

We desperately need another key tall forward more than any other postional recruit IMO.


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1919389Post skeptic »

Agreed.

Pre Bruce injury… Bulldogs were pbly head shoulders above the rest and I’d have backed them in for the flag.

This opens up the race quite a bit


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1919390Post st.byron »

Anyone but Geelong. Selwood has such a punchable head.


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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1919458Post saynta »

st.byron wrote: Mon 09 Aug 2021 11:47am Anyone but Geelong. Selwood has such a punchable head.
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Re: CHB or 2nd tall defender

Post: # 1920578Post Vortex »

Bulldogs loses another one without Bruce, they have looked very beatable since Josh's injury.

Two key tall forwards is a must for flag success.

I know I have said it before but geez in hindsight we should have done more to.keep Bruce and has turned out to be a list management mistake.

We now have to replace him as our first and biggest priority.


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