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Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943206Post Gershwin »

Gee, nothing to get too excited about here except Highmore.

https://www.saints.com.au/news/1083562


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943213Post Impatient Sainter »

Surprising similarities to the AFL game.

Slow stagnant ball movement for 3 quarters, kicking it down the line and to be just happy to get a restart, no Saints midfielders. It doesnt instill confidence things are on the up.


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943214Post SunnyErnie »

Gershwin wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 7:00pm Gee, nothing to get too excited about here except Highmore.

https://www.saints.com.au/news/1083562
Looking at that I can honestly say we have stuff all to come into the senior side. I know it's only 1 game in but I have this terrible feeling we are heading for the bottom 4. You look at the results on the weekend and think where is our next (first) win coming from. The only games that we will be 50 50 chance are against North, Essendon and maybe Richmond.


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943217Post Impatient Sainter »

SunnyErnie wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 7:09pm
Gershwin wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 7:00pm Gee, nothing to get too excited about here except Highmore.

https://www.saints.com.au/news/1083562
Looking at that I can honestly say we have stuff all to come into the senior side. I know it's only 1 game in but I have this terrible feeling we are heading for the bottom 4. You look at the results on the weekend and think where is our next (first) win coming from. The only games that we will be 50 50 chance are against North, Essendon and maybe Richmond.
Collingwood were poorly coached last year not too dissimilar to our Richardson years. They have been freed up under McRae and played out of their skin Friday night. We will improve, but Im really concerned about our midfield stoppage work.


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943222Post kosifantutti »

We’re playing Casey on Sunday at 1:05.

An earlier report said all games could be watched via the AFL app but this site suggests it’s only on Kayo.
https://www.afl.com.au/matches/4167


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943229Post Darth Vader »

Gershwin wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 7:00pm Gee, nothing to get too excited about here except Highmore.

https://www.saints.com.au/news/1083562
Looks like no Bytel?


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943231Post SunnyErnie »

Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 7:23pm
SunnyErnie wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 7:09pm
Gershwin wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 7:00pm Gee, nothing to get too excited about here except Highmore.

https://www.saints.com.au/news/1083562
Looking at that I can honestly say we have stuff all to come into the senior side. I know it's only 1 game in but I have this terrible feeling we are heading for the bottom 4. You look at the results on the weekend and think where is our next (first) win coming from. The only games that we will be 50 50 chance are against North, Essendon and maybe Richmond.
Collingwood were poorly coached last year not too dissimilar to our Richardson years. They have been freed up under McRae and played out of their skin Friday night. We will improve, but Im really concerned about our midfield stoppage work.
The only way I can see us improving is if we do not have any injuries at all for the next 6 weeks minimum. If that's the case we will get back all our important players. But what are the chances of that happening? We are are in all sorts!!!

Before round 1 I was hoping to be 5 and zero or at worst 4 and 1. Now I'm struggling to see any wins in our first 5.
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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943232Post Vortex »

From all reports it sounds like Highmore is on the verge of bursting out of the blocks towards a breakout year.


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

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No Bytal.


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943239Post Zed »

Highmore in Kent out.
Swap owens for NWM - the open spaces will suit NWM better.
With wider wings, I’d like to see Hill also go back to a wing,- but we know that won’t happen.

I was surprised at how quiet Sinclair was in the first half. Came alive when he moved into the midfield. Start him in the midfield this week with Highmore and Webster as the HBF. Keep him in the midfield until Jones and/or Clark return.


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943240Post Saintmatt »

SunnyErnie wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 7:09pm
Gershwin wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 7:00pm Gee, nothing to get too excited about here except Highmore.

https://www.saints.com.au/news/1083562
Looking at that I can honestly say we have stuff all to come into the senior side. I know it's only 1 game in but I have this terrible feeling we are heading for the bottom 4. You look at the results on the weekend and think where is our next (first) win coming from. The only games that we will be 50 50 chance are against North, Essendon and maybe Richmond.
We don’t have anything to come in because we’ve constantly traded away our 2nd round pick (which is where you build depth that you develop over time to support your 1st round picks) except, even with what we’ve got - we learned late last year that our development was run by Ben McGlynn part time (2 days per week). Almost as an aside.

FMD - it’s so obvious that from the top of the football department down that we’ve been swimming with our pants down and now the tide is quickly receding.


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943243Post CarlD »

I'm a might confused - so the entries into the forward line were an issue. They apparently had Connolly running to good spots and didn't give him the ball and he has probably better disposal than quite a few others. So that sounds like they are not using his skills to advantage to improve the situation.

What am I missing?


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943248Post cwrcyn »

Just like when Hill runs to good positions and doesn't get used


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943251Post CURLY »

Saintmatt wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 9:12pm
SunnyErnie wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 7:09pm
Gershwin wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 7:00pm Gee, nothing to get too excited about here except Highmore.

https://www.saints.com.au/news/1083562
Looking at that I can honestly say we have stuff all to come into the senior side. I know it's only 1 game in but I have this terrible feeling we are heading for the bottom 4. You look at the results on the weekend and think where is our next (first) win coming from. The only games that we will be 50 50 chance are against North, Essendon and maybe Richmond.
We don’t have anything to come in because we’ve constantly traded away our 2nd round pick (which is where you build depth that you develop over time to support your 1st round picks) except, even with what we’ve got - we learned late last year that our development was run by Ben McGlynn part time (2 days per week). Almost as an aside.

FMD - it’s so obvious that from the top of the football department down that we’ve been swimming with our pants down and now the tide is quickly receding.

We don’t have much to come in as we have

Ryder
Jones
Billings
Clarke
Coffield
Bytal
Hannebery

All unavailable.


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943254Post Yorkeys »

Thanks Gershwin. Actually sounded promising to me, rose glasses of course.

Josh Battle has reason to be nervous - Lienert & Highmore coming.....

Wonder about the Sharman comment, but. Are they trying to get him to spoil rather than catch? Surely not, he has such great hands. (Shocked he is not in the side: did he ghost a relative of Rath.)

Anyway I think most of the
players reviewed could come into the side and we wouldn't be any poorer for it.

Thanks again 👍


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I'd play Battle in the midfield. We need the grunt. Desperately.


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Post: # 1943258Post samuraisaint »

Now there's a surprise, Sandy suck. Hold the front page! Breaking news!
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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943283Post Royston »

Toy Saint wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 10:20pm I'd play Battle in the midfield. We need the grunt. Desperately.
Can't play him midfield as he is very average below his knees.
One attribute you require as a mid.


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

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Yorkeys wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 10:14pm
Wonder about the Sharman comment, but. Are they trying to get him to spoil rather than catch? Surely not, he has such great hands. (Shocked he is not in the side: did he ghost a relative of Rath.)
I noticed that as well and it honestly concerned me. Sharman's style is to lead into dangerous spots with good timing and separation on his opponent. Are we trying to coach that out of him? Seems like the game plan is to bomb it on a stationary forward's head and hope we get the crumb.


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Royston wrote: Tue 22 Mar 2022 1:21am
Toy Saint wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 10:20pm I'd play Battle in the midfield. We need the grunt. Desperately.
Can't play him midfield as he is very average below his knees.
One attribute you require as a mid.
And he runs on railroad tracks, no evasive skills at all.


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Royston wrote: Tue 22 Mar 2022 1:21am
Toy Saint wrote: Mon 21 Mar 2022 10:20pm I'd play Battle in the midfield. We need the grunt. Desperately.
Can't play him midfield as he is very average below his knees.
One attribute you require as a mid.
And he runs on railroad tracks, no evasive skills at all.


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943326Post spert »

I can only see one position for Battle and that's CHF


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

Post: # 1943354Post saintsRrising »

I thought the plan was to develop Allison into a key defender?

Matthew Allison
Matty played on the wing and looked promising. He had a couple of shots at goal and worked back well defensively as well as challenged going forward. He looked good, he had a purpose around the contest, and I think he would be able to take a lot out of it.


It looks like new plan for him now.


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

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saintsRrising wrote: Tue 22 Mar 2022 11:49am I thought the plan was to develop Allison into a key defender?

Matthew Allison
Matty played on the wing and looked promising. He had a couple of shots at goal and worked back well defensively as well as challenged going forward. He looked good, he had a purpose around the contest, and I think he would be able to take a lot out of it.


It looks like new plan for him now.
Its because he has zero footy nouse and cant get near the ball, they are trying to get him more involved.


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Re: Review of VFL practice match v Collingwood

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Cooper Sharman
Cooper had a good start to the game and got involved early on. He was at both sides of our inside-50 connection during the first quarter, he is always moving and trying to provide an option for us.

Our ball movement probably hurt him a bit when we got a bit stagnant. When our ball movement was slick, that’s when he was in the play. His aerial contest stuff is still a work in progress and he has to get a bit better at that with the way we are going to play but his attitude is fantastic and he just wants to keep getting better.

"Our ball movement probably hurt him a bit when we got a bit stagnant. When our ball movement was slick, that's when he was in the play."

Forget the fact that was said about Sharman. That quote could have been used in relation to any of our forwards, big or small, on Friday night. Slick ball movement is what caught our defenders out, stagnant ball movement is.what made Moore & Howe shine. In fact I believe we can cut & paste that quote for all our losses.


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