What a brilliant draft - well done Saints!

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Re: What a brilliant draft - well done Saints!

Post: # 1989513Post chook23 »

Our draft haul just rates a mention according to Sam Landsberger HS today


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Re: What a brilliant draft - well done Saints!

Post: # 1989514Post SaintPav »

realdeal wrote: Thu 01 Dec 2022 1:33pm
Killa wrote: Wed 30 Nov 2022 9:05pm What I do know is that Brett was the catalyst for a focus on junior development

And that he challenged our junior players to put pressure on, and surpass the older players

And to forge the future of St Kilda FC

Even with Steele, the challenge was you are good enough to write your own reputation, not tag

That challenge was accepted

Would we have replicated 2021 and focussed on the Draft in 2022?

The answer was in 2021 and Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager, Owens, Adams and Peris

Nothing has changed in regards strategy

Gallagher remains as List Manager - and very competent
Lucky we gave Kent a game in round 22 then..
Strange decision.

Matt Maguire was never gifted a 100th game.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... guire.html

Roy Cazaly played 99 games for St Kilda though he went on to play a further 68 games with South.

Josh Bruce also played 99 games for the Saints.

Aaron Hamill finished 2 games short of his century of games.


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Re: What a brilliant draft - well done Saints!

Post: # 1989515Post IluvHarvey »

SaintPav wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 8:59am
realdeal wrote: Thu 01 Dec 2022 1:33pm
Killa wrote: Wed 30 Nov 2022 9:05pm What I do know is that Brett was the catalyst for a focus on junior development

And that he challenged our junior players to put pressure on, and surpass the older players

And to forge the future of St Kilda FC

Even with Steele, the challenge was you are good enough to write your own reputation, not tag

That challenge was accepted

Would we have replicated 2021 and focussed on the Draft in 2022?

The answer was in 2021 and Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager, Owens, Adams and Peris

Nothing has changed in regards strategy

Gallagher remains as List Manager - and very competent
Lucky we gave Kent a game in round 22 then..
Strange decision.

Matt Maguire was never gifted a 100th game.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... guire.html

Roy Cazaly played 99 games for St Kilda though he went on to play a further 68 games with South.

Josh Bruce also played 99 games for the Saints.

Aaron Hamill finished 2 games short of his century of games.
Not that it means anything but I’m pretty sure Cazaly played 99 games with both us and South.


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Re: What a brilliant draft - well done Saints!

Post: # 1989517Post SaintPav »

IluvHarvey wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 9:39am
SaintPav wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 8:59am
realdeal wrote: Thu 01 Dec 2022 1:33pm
Killa wrote: Wed 30 Nov 2022 9:05pm What I do know is that Brett was the catalyst for a focus on junior development

And that he challenged our junior players to put pressure on, and surpass the older players

And to forge the future of St Kilda FC

Even with Steele, the challenge was you are good enough to write your own reputation, not tag

That challenge was accepted

Would we have replicated 2021 and focussed on the Draft in 2022?

The answer was in 2021 and Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager, Owens, Adams and Peris

Nothing has changed in regards strategy

Gallagher remains as List Manager - and very competent
Lucky we gave Kent a game in round 22 then..
Strange decision.

Matt Maguire was never gifted a 100th game.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... guire.html

Roy Cazaly played 99 games for St Kilda though he went on to play a further 68 games with South.

Josh Bruce also played 99 games for the Saints.

Aaron Hamill finished 2 games short of his century of games.
Not that it means anything but I’m pretty sure Cazaly played 99 games with both us and South.
True. Great stat.

I was looking at the goals column on my phone.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... azaly.html


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chook23 wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 7:57am Our draft haul just rates a mention according to Sam Landsberger HS today
Any chance of posting it?


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Impatient Sainter wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 10:43am
chook23 wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 7:57am Our draft haul just rates a mention according to Sam Landsberger HS today
Any chance of posting it?
acknowledged industry rated our draft as highly rated


it is more to do with lack of comment


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Does anyone know why Adelaide didn't nominate Keeler as an NGA?
It defies logic if he's meant to be very good and a Paddy Ryder clone.


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magnifisaint wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 12:38pm Does anyone know why Adelaide didn't nominate Keeler as an NGA?
It defies logic if he's meant to be very good and a Paddy Ryder clone.
there is/has been some concern with application and work ethic

AFL will sort that out one way or the other

Adelaide prob had those concerns too the safer option

may have picked him later if got through

because he is ours we (supporters) might be rating him higher than he really is

pick 44 must be a toss up to make it


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magnifisaint wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 12:38pm Does anyone know why Adelaide didn't nominate Keeler as an NGA?
It defies logic if he's meant to be very good and a Paddy Ryder clone.
The main reason I've heard is because they were bluffed into thinking he would go before pick 40.
Others have hinted that he may not be that impressive aerobically.
He is certainly athletically gifted and seems to have some skill and good kicking abilities and well worth the 44 he cost us, so you will have to draw your own conclusions, as time goes on.


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Re: What a brilliant draft - well done Saints!

Post: # 1989592Post realdeal »

SaintPav wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 8:59am
realdeal wrote: Thu 01 Dec 2022 1:33pm
Killa wrote: Wed 30 Nov 2022 9:05pm What I do know is that Brett was the catalyst for a focus on junior development

And that he challenged our junior players to put pressure on, and surpass the older players

And to forge the future of St Kilda FC

Even with Steele, the challenge was you are good enough to write your own reputation, not tag

That challenge was accepted

Would we have replicated 2021 and focussed on the Draft in 2022?

The answer was in 2021 and Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager, Owens, Adams and Peris

Nothing has changed in regards strategy

Gallagher remains as List Manager - and very competent
Lucky we gave Kent a game in round 22 then..
Strange decision.

Matt Maguire was never gifted a 100th game.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... guire.html

Roy Cazaly played 99 games for St Kilda though he went on to play a further 68 games with South.

Josh Bruce also played 99 games for the Saints.

Aaron Hamill finished 2 games short of his century of games.
TBH, if given the chance i would've made sure all 3 of those blokes hit 100 games with the club, but Kent was playing what, game 37 with us and also wasnt going to benefit the club in any way..


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Re: What a brilliant draft - well done Saints!

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chook23 wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 7:57am Our draft haul just rates a mention according to Sam Landsberger HS today
I think that’s actually a good thing.

The media are usually wrong and or late to the party about most things.


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SaintPav wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 7:26pm
chook23 wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 7:57am Our draft haul just rates a mention according to Sam Landsberger HS today
I think that’s actually a good thing.

The media are usually wrong and or late to the party about most things.
Lol I pay as much credence to a journo as I would anyone else on here 😊


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The Fireman wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 7:42pm
SaintPav wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 7:26pm
chook23 wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 7:57am Our draft haul just rates a mention according to Sam Landsberger HS today
I think that’s actually a good thing.

The media are usually wrong and or late to the party about most things.
Lol I pay as much credence to a journo as I would anyone else on here 😊
Ok. :D


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The playing group seemed supportive of Kent appearing for the 100th time at AFL level

They celebrated with him - also recognising his retirement

He was on our List so trained and attended all other responsibilities with his fellow players - so, you would assume, had the respect of the Club

And he was included for his 100th and last game

I have no problem with that

In fact, I applaud it

It was the Club’s last game for the season - being the completion of the Minor Round season

Put things into perspective people

I am sure Kent was most appreciative

He leaves the game with 100 AFL games to his credit - along with a number of VFL games


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CQ SAINT wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 2:10pm
magnifisaint wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 12:38pm Does anyone know why Adelaide didn't nominate Keeler as an NGA?
It defies logic if he's meant to be very good and a Paddy Ryder clone.
The main reason I've heard is because they were bluffed into thinking he would go before pick 40.
Others have hinted that he may not be that impressive aerobically.
He is certainly athletically gifted and seems to have some skill and good kicking abilities and well worth the 44 he cost us, so you will have to draw your own conclusions, as time goes on.
That being said, if Adelaide actually wanted him, they could have picked him at 43. They chose Billy Dowling instead.
Sometimes players just don’t fit into a squad, they aren’t the right player.
We passed on Biggy a few years ago, and I don’t think we missed him.


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Post: # 1989631Post CQ SAINT »

I wouldn't want to play alongside Tex. Maybe he didn't like the vibe over at Adelaide and made that clear.


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Post: # 1989722Post D.B.Cooper »

Here is an interesting thread.
Seems we felt we had drafted three elite players in the 2013 draft

http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?t=84050


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realdeal wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 6:57pm
SaintPav wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 8:59am
realdeal wrote: Thu 01 Dec 2022 1:33pm
Killa wrote: Wed 30 Nov 2022 9:05pm What I do know is that Brett was the catalyst for a focus on junior development

And that he challenged our junior players to put pressure on, and surpass the older players

And to forge the future of St Kilda FC

Even with Steele, the challenge was you are good enough to write your own reputation, not tag

That challenge was accepted

Would we have replicated 2021 and focussed on the Draft in 2022?

The answer was in 2021 and Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager, Owens, Adams and Peris

Nothing has changed in regards strategy

Gallagher remains as List Manager - and very competent
Lucky we gave Kent a game in round 22 then..
Strange decision.

Matt Maguire was never gifted a 100th game.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... guire.html

Roy Cazaly played 99 games for St Kilda though he went on to play a further 68 games with South.

Josh Bruce also played 99 games for the Saints.

Aaron Hamill finished 2 games short of his century of games.
TBH, if given the chance i would've made sure all 3 of those blokes hit 100 games with the club, but Kent was playing what, game 37 with us and also wasnt going to benefit the club in any way..
I was hoping Dylan Roberton would have been made sub a few times to get him to 100.
I think he has 3 boys and he and his wife come from a good local footy pedigree.
Ken I didn't feel earned the 100th, but that is just my opinion which is irrelevant.
I would have preferred a player like Bytel or Byrnes or who was performing best in the VFL play on front of Kent and Hannas for that matter.


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We won’t know whether it’s a great draft for 4-5 years

2014
We drafted 2 kp pillars for 12 years

Played 40 games between them


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Killa wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 10:09pm The playing group seemed supportive of Kent appearing for the 100th time at AFL level

They celebrated with him - also recognising his retirement

He was on our List so trained and attended all other responsibilities with his fellow players - so, you would assume, had the respect of the Club

And he was included for his 100th and last game

I have no problem with that

In fact, I applaud it

It was the Club’s last game for the season - being the completion of the Minor Round season

Put things into perspective people

I am sure Kent was most appreciative

He leaves the game with 100 AFL games to his credit - along with a number of VFL games
That’s nice that Kent was appreciative.

No wonder we only have won one flag in 150 years.


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Did it matter?!


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B.M wrote: Mon 05 Dec 2022 6:11pm We won’t know whether it’s a great draft for 4-5 years

2014
We drafted 2 kp pillars for 12 years

Played 40 games between them
It will also be about the same time we find out if Ross can rebuild a list capable of winning a flag.


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Loser mentality.

Who bangs on about gifting games..


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Who’s to say he didn’t earn his spot?

How was he going in the twos?

I don’t like gifting games to kids - they need to learn how to earn a spot in the side


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Post: # 1989846Post bobmurray »

SaintPav wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 10:14am
IluvHarvey wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 9:39am
SaintPav wrote: Fri 02 Dec 2022 8:59am
realdeal wrote: Thu 01 Dec 2022 1:33pm
Killa wrote: Wed 30 Nov 2022 9:05pm What I do know is that Brett was the catalyst for a focus on junior development

And that he challenged our junior players to put pressure on, and surpass the older players

And to forge the future of St Kilda FC

Even with Steele, the challenge was you are good enough to write your own reputation, not tag

That challenge was accepted

Would we have replicated 2021 and focussed on the Draft in 2022?

The answer was in 2021 and Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager, Owens, Adams and Peris

Nothing has changed in regards strategy

Gallagher remains as List Manager - and very competent
Lucky we gave Kent a game in round 22 then..
Strange decision.

Matt Maguire was never gifted a 100th game.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... guire.html

Roy Cazaly played 99 games for St Kilda though he went on to play a further 68 games with South.

Josh Bruce also played 99 games for the Saints.

Aaron Hamill finished 2 games short of his century of games.
Not that it means anything but I’m pretty sure Cazaly played 99 games with both us and South.
True. Great stat.

I was looking at the goals column on my phone.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... azaly.html
Check twice, post once, factually.


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