When the game was there to be won…

[SydneySainter]

Just not good enough. So many chances.

[Otiman]

Lost it in the second half of the first quarter. Should not have let a 23 point lead become a 10 point defecit.

[SydneySainter]

Lost it in the second half of the first quarter. Should not have let a 23 point lead become a 10 point defecit.

Yep, again, on field leadership just no there.

[whiskers3614]

Need to hit the weights room in off season, too often outmuscled in one on ones.
Too many headless chooks kicking forward, Ross and Hill the worst but lots of others not far behind.
If that’s all Steele can do in his current condition he needs rest.
Windhager and Phillipou the bright spots on a dirty night.

[Saint2]

Cotchin is making up numbers in the Tigers team, and for him to come out and be influential really does put a big question mark over our leadership group, let alone coach

[chook23]

Cotchin is making up numbers in the Tigers team, and for him to come out and be influential really does put a big question mark over our leadership group, let alone coach

More likely explains why he gets to 300 AFL games

[nobhead]

Need to hit the weights room in off season, too often outmuscled in one on ones.
Too many headless chooks kicking forward, Ross and Hill the worst but lots of others not far behind.
If that’s all Steele can do in his current condition he needs rest.
Windhager and Phillipou the bright spots on a dirty night.

We need to keep hitting the draft ,keep trying to find and develop good young talent. We have to many players in this side that have obvious deficencies that get exposed under pressure .unfortunately atm we have no other options.

[Banger9798]

Very disappointing. As soon as the rain came we were stuffed

[Devilhead]

Inexcusable loss

2 days extra break against a Tigers side coming back from a slog in Perth

Kick the first 4 goals of the game ...... then we choke hard

Happened against Port and now against an average Tigers team without a few of their stars

Very very poor Saints

[SydneySainter]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, St Kilda are just a sh**ty football club.

[whiskers3614]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, St Kilda are just a sh**ty football club.

Bit harsh there mate!
Disappointing or heartbreaking instead of shi,,y and I will agree with you.

[Teflon]

Need to hit the weights room in off season, too often outmuscled in one on ones.
Too many headless chooks kicking forward, Ross and Hill the worst but lots of others not far behind.
If that’s all Steele can do in his current condition he needs rest.
Windhager and Phillipou the bright spots on a dirty night.

We need to keep hitting the draft ,keep trying to find and develop good young talent. We have to many players in this side that have obvious deficencies that get exposed under pressure .unfortunately atm we have no other options.

Spot on
Our best hope is talent in kids
Not fly ins promising the world who we have to pay overs for
In field leadership is also an issue

[Yorkeys]

Inexcusable loss

2 days extra break against a Tigers side coming back from a slog in Perth

Kick the first 4 goals of the game ...... then we choke hard

Happened against Port and now against an average Tigers team without a few of their stars

Very very poor Saints

Plus substitute coach, who did quite well. Might have advised Tiges to not turn the ball over with unforced errors. We conversely didn't value position enough. Cost us.

[whiskers3614]

Hannebery, Hill recruitment debacles going to haunt us for a decade or more.
Leadership vacuum caused by going for the mercensries instead of taking our medicine going right down and hitting the draft.
He who won’t be dropped provided great leadership and example, NOT!

[Scollop]

Hannebery, Hill recruitment debacles going to haunt us for a decade or more.
Leadership vacuum caused by going for the mercensries instead of taking our medicine going right down and hitting the draft.
He who won’t be dropped provided great leadership and example, NOT!

And HE who was the boss of the football department and mastermind and architect was promoted for it, and now running the show.

Is that disappointing or sh**ty?

[Yorkeys]

Hannebery, Hill recruitment debacles going to haunt us for a decade or more.
Leadership vacuum caused by going for the mercensries instead of taking our medicine going right down and hitting the draft.
He who won’t be dropped provided great leadership and example, NOT!

And HE who was the boss of the football department and mastermind and architect was promoted for it, and now running the show.

Is that disappointing or sh**ty?

our version of the Peter principle? the Simon principle, but apparently he has excellent staff to delegate to and is no longer involved in footy operations so there's that. He's probably pleased he doesn't have to front the board every month like he an Ratts had to do to explain endless LLLLs.

[Scollop]

The board and Simon have no where to hide and can't delegate responsibility after the next 3 years

How old will Grant Thomas be in 2026?

[Waltzing St Kilda]

Good on the Tiges.

Made all the right decisions and cleaned up with three flags.

Meanwhile we dicked around at Seaford with half-arsed draft picks and clueless nice guy coaches.

[ace]

Good on the Tiges.

Made all the right decisions and cleaned up with three flags.

Meanwhile we dicked around at Seaford with half-arsed draft picks and clueless nice guy coaches.

Those were not half arse draft picks.
Petracca & Bontempelli together would have won this game.
When you have low draft picks and waste them you sentence the club to over a decade of failure.

[SydneySainter]

Good on the Tiges.

Made all the right decisions and cleaned up with three flags.

Meanwhile we dicked around at Seaford with half-arsed draft picks and clueless nice guy coaches.

Those were not half arse draft picks.
Petracca & Bontempelli together would have won this game.
When you have low draft picks and waste them you sentence the club to over a decade of failure.

The catalyst of where it all went tits up was the 2014 draft. We had two first round picks (including pick 1) and fluffed them both.

That was the draft we HAD to get right. When you have pick 1, that has to be an instrumental part of your rebuild. It is not a pick you gamble.

Getting that so wrong in such spectacular fashion alone has lead to another decade of failure.

[terry smith rules]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, St Kilda are just a sh**ty football club.

Why bother then?

[SydneySainter]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, St Kilda are just a sh**ty football club.

Why bother then?

Calling it how I see it.

We have historically been a shabbily run organisation, we are a founding party of the VFL let the least successful or all the Vic clubs and we’ve burnt the last 10 years on nice guy administration.

Until this trend is bucked, we will continue to be a sh*tty football club.

[B.M]

Obviously a s*** club

We can’t hide from our history- we have been the least successful club in the AFL - off and on field

We have made some of the worst decisions in the history of the game

There has been poor luck too - along the way!

But there has always been poor leadership - we’ve never been well run!

[Impatient Sainter]

Totally agree BM - but I think sometimes in footy you make your own luck. We have had some great teams, coaches and administrators but rarely all at the same time. Then when we did we have found ways to self destruct. Perhaps now we have the makings of a great administration, we know we have a very good coach we just need the team to make them great.

My biggest fears regarding the future of our club is the appointment of SOS as our List Manager and the continued poor developmental environment of our Sandringham alliance. SOS has the potential to send our club back another 10 years in the list development if he doesn't make the right calls in coming years. And the alliance if not corrected will continue to stymie player development to our detriment.

[B.M]

What do you believe is the issue at Sandy?

Coaching?

The team is run by StK employees, has been for 10 years - with a stk employee as head coach and StK dev coaches as line coaches.

Basically Sandy is StK reserves in different jumpers

Reason we want the Sandy alliance is so we don’t have to pay top up players. Which would be a couple of hundred grand a year