Sharman on the wing?

[SydneySainter]

I think he’s more suited to it than as a KPP.

[Scollop]

Howard, Wilkie and Pou played as the key position defenders against the taller West Coast forwards.

Sharman was filling in at half back flank. He doesn't defend well 1-1 but he's very good at starting our attack from the backline.

When he plays forward he's usually a HFF. When does he play the role of key position?

[SydneySainter]

He was filling in at half back flank. Howard, Wilkie and Pou played as the key position defenders.

When he plays forward he's usually a HFF. When does he play the role of key position?

You’re probably right.

I think being a mobile unit is definitely to his strength, whether that be as a forward or back.

[skeptic]

I’d kind of like to seem him up forward again. What we really haven’t seen him have the opportunity to do so much was the thing that actually made him stand out early on…
And that is, playing on the lead, relying on an ability to get on the end of it and utilise his strong grab.

Even when he has forayed forward this year… he’s played more as a drop in forward/up with the pack and bring the ball down type which really isn’t his strength.

It’s an interesting consideration to be frank… it seems like with the exception of Higgins, none of our forwards really seem to play on the lead.

[Saint2]

The big bonus is that he can kick properly, and makes good decisions.

[CQ SAINT]

Sharman was ok. Did some nice things.

[saynta]

Sharman was ok. Did some nice things.

Cooper has football smarts.

[Otiman]

Yes, wing is absolutlely the right place for him. I believe that was his role in preseason.

Unfortunately being the sub means you have to play wherever you're needed.

Sharman is this years Josh Battle from 2020. Jack of all trades.

[Banger9798]

Cooper reads the balloff the boot quicker than anyone bar Sincs and Wilkie.
A definite strength in his game.
Got a great leap too

[magnifisaint]

He's a good kick and a smart footballer

[B.M]

He’s a KPP trapped in a slightly smaller body

If he was 196 he’d be a chance

If he was the same size but more agile and better at ground level he’d be a chance

He’s a classic tweener

[Banger9798]

He’s a KPP trapped in a slightly smaller body

If he was 196 he’d be a chance

If he was the same size but more agile and better at ground level he’d be a chance

He’s a classic tweener

Can he be a Bailey Fritch?

3rd tallish forward?

[Annoyedsaint]

Wing…..

No.
Not quick enough.
Has no endurance.

He’s sub because he can fill gaps for a quarter.
Nothing more than that or he’d be starting every week.

[B.M]

Not as quick or agile as Fritch

He has tools - no doubt

He can catch it and kick it and has ok endurance

But his lack of size for a predominantly marking player, and lack speed for a wing/HF/HB

Maybe a third? Not convinced though - at this stage

Bit of Siposs about him - in that his body size doesn’t match his skill set

[Teflon]

The big bonus is that he can kick properly, and makes good decisions.

Yes spot on
Just feel that when he gets the ball in his hands….you have that confidence he’ll use it …unlike say Byrnes, Gresham or Dougal …heart in mouth stuff
He’s a keeper Sharman
Vortex/Cairns a complete muppet

[B.M]

Kicking the footy is a small aspect of your ability to play the game

Getting it - air and ground
Game sense
Decision making
Execution - hand and foot

In game

Training
Application and drive
Coachability

Just because someone can kick - doesn’t make you a good player, or even a skilful player
Otherwise Arryn Siposs would have played 200 games
Leo Connolly is a case in point - can kick but lacks competitiveness- which is why he’s been put inside at Sandy, to see if he can win his own ball and tackle. He cannot!

Being a great athlete alone doesn’t either
Otherwise Steven Gaertner and Spencer White would’ve made it

You MUST tick a lot of boxes to make it as a player - that’s the art of recruiting

But the most important trait - can they consistently impact a game - because that’s what good players do

[Teflon]

Kicking the footy is a small aspect of your ability to play the game

Getting it - air and ground
Game sense
Decision making
Execution - hand and foot

In game

Training
Application and drive
Coachability

Just because someone can kick - doesn’t make you a good player, or even a skilful player
Otherwise Arryn Siposs would have played 200 games
Leo Connolly is a case in point - can kick but lacks competitiveness- which is why he’s been put inside at Sandy, to see if he can win his own ball and tackle. He cannot!

Being a great athlete alone doesn’t either
Otherwise Steven Gaertner and Spencer White would’ve made it

You MUST tick a lot of boxes to make it as a player - that’s the art of recruiting

But the most important trait - can they consistently impact a game - because that’s what good players do

I agree - it’s not on topic but good generalist post on “good players impact games” thank you
Explains clearly why Bytel isn’t getting ganes
Good exploring told us that
Sharman still a good field kick tho - that was the discussion

[B.M]

The thread was - Sharman on a wing

Then it was stated that he was a good kick - which he is pretty good

I was making the point that being a good kick doesn’t make you a good player

Sharman has capabilities but also has deficiencies which limit him imo

[Scollop]

I wouldn’t bother answering him, he’s wasting your time and everyone else’s

I think as long as Cooper has “Application and drive” (as you put it) he can secure a contract extension. In the long term, I’d like to see him as the third tall in our forward line.

[D.B.Cooper]

For a few years many posters on this forum wanted Battle payed as a wingman or tall mid.

He has good endurance running capacity but lacks the pace lateral mobility to impact on a wing or as a mid.

Sharman similarly whilst decent endurance wise, lacks the lateral movement and ball handling to hold down a wing.

Battle is also as hard as a cats head, Sharman is nothing like Battle here.

To make it I believe Sharman needs to settle as a 3rd tall forward or back.

He has an elite leap, he’s a good kick and reads the flight ok.

[saintsRrising]

The big bonus is that he can kick properly, and makes good decisions.

This is where Sharman stood out.

One of the only players in the team this game to keep kicking the ball beautifully and consistently to advantage.

He kicked beautifully, chose good options and then also kicked to the advantage of his team mate.

[saintsRrising]

Kicking the footy is a small aspect of your ability to play the game

Getting it - air and ground
Game sense
Decision making
Execution - hand and foot

In game

Training
Application and drive
Coachability

Just because someone can kick - doesn’t make you a good player, or even a skilful player
Otherwise Arryn Siposs would have played 200 games
Leo Connolly is a case in point - can kick but lacks competitiveness- which is why he’s been put inside at Sandy, to see if he can win his own ball and tackle. He cannot!

Being a great athlete alone doesn’t either
Otherwise Steven Gaertner and Spencer White would’ve made it

You MUST tick a lot of boxes to make it as a player - that’s the art of recruiting

But the most important trait - can they consistently impact a game - because that’s what good players do

While all true, a current fact is that too many of our players in our current team are poor users of the ball. Sharman is one of the few who is a good user of the ball.

Lyon in remoulding the team must improve our ball use if we want to become a genuine contender.

Now Sharman may or may not be part of that future. But unless Lyon and our recruiters can inject better ball use we are not going to be a genuine threat (except to my mental health and level of contentment!).

[skeptic]

Sharman got 10 touches coming on for Battle in what was it… part way through the second?

Byrnes got 12 for the match as a full time winger from the get go.

Byrnes - 55%DE and 257m gained
Sharman - 80%DE and 266m gained

Throw Seb Ross in there…
16 touches
65% DE and 259m gained

Now I’m no mathematician… but on those numbers, I would say that Coops contribution holds up and that RTB should be wanting a lot more from Byrnes and Ross.

[B.M]

Different positions

Can’t compare

[skeptic]

Different positions

Can’t compare

Ross absolutely…

But I think Coops (and Bytel) if given the opportunity could Byrnes role and with results as good as many of his performances