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Bytel

Post: # 2031141Post older saint »

I wonder if Melbourne will look at him seeing Dunstan did his ACL . Richo is there and he is a similar player but younger and will provide them depth. Will be interesting.


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Re: Bytel

Post: # 2031143Post Otiman »

We have the weakest midfield in the league and we dropped him.

Doubt anyone will be interested.


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Re: Bytel

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He’ll be picked up

This year or next

Richmond got rid of Oleg Markov, then the GC did

Now he’s a starting player in the best team in the comp

Just because a s*** team gets rid of a player, doesn’t make them a dud, it probably means the environment they were in was s*** and didn’t suit them.

Hundreds of players have left clubs only to flourish elsewhere

We more than anyone should know that!


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Re: Bytel

Post: # 2031154Post saynta »

Bytel now has a chance and an opportunity to make it .

Something that he never really had at Moorabbin.


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Re: Bytel

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Correct


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Re: Bytel

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saynta wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 11:35am Bytel now has a chance and an opportunity to make it .

Something that he never really had at Moorabbin.
I'll remind you that we took the chance on an 18 year old kid, who needed back surgery and three years.

We took that punt because preinjury he was stronger in the legs.
He has come a long way, at the expense of us. If he makes it and wins a brownlow, I'm sure he will reflect on that. I'm just not sure he will win a brownlow.


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Re: Bytel

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CQ SAINT wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 11:48am
saynta wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 11:35am Bytel now has a chance and an opportunity to make it .

Something that he never really had at Moorabbin.
I'll remind you that we took the chance on an 18 year old kid, who needed back surgery and three years.

We took that punt because preinjury he was stronger in the legs.
He has come a long way, at the expense of us. If he makes it and wins a brownlow, I'm sure he will reflect on that. I'm just not sure he will win a brownlow.
He owes the Saints nothing in my humble f****** opinion. :roll:


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Re: Bytel

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saynta wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 11:51am
CQ SAINT wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 11:48am
saynta wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 11:35am Bytel now has a chance and an opportunity to make it .

Something that he never really had at Moorabbin.
I'll remind you that we took the chance on an 18 year old kid, who needed back surgery and three years.

We took that punt because preinjury he was stronger in the legs.
He has come a long way, at the expense of us. If he makes it and wins a brownlow, I'm sure he will reflect on that. I'm just not sure he will win a brownlow.
He owes the Saints nothing in my humble f****** opinion. :roll:
I dont think he owes the club anything either.

He put in a lot of work, hopefully he gets a return.


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Re: Bytel

Post: # 2031164Post older saint »

Don't have an issue with the delisting, especially as we need to make some tough calls on those players 25-35.

4 gone, maybe a couple more via trade or delist but need to find that sweet spot between clean out and losing depth


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Re: Bytel

Post: # 2031165Post Vortex »

Just ran out of time in the end, was it 7 years on the list?

....and was too slow for AFL level, could never adjust to the pace of the level.


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Re: Bytel

Post: # 2031167Post B.M »

As far as depth goes

I’ve watched a lot of VFL - more than AFL

Bytel and Highmore consistently the best two players (with Campbell)

Ver few injuries to our key backs and inside Mids and lack of opportunities have seen them stuck in the VFL dominating


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Re: Bytel

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B.M wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 11:29am He’ll be picked up

This year or next

Richmond got rid of Oleg Markov, then the GC did

Now he’s a starting player in the best team in the comp

Just because a s*** team gets rid of a player, doesn’t make them a dud, it probably means the environment they were in was s*** and didn’t suit them.

Hundreds of players have left clubs only to flourish elsewhere

We more than anyone should know that!
I don't believe Bytel will get another opportunity.

Players like Bytel and Constable who are very decent players and way above VFL standard, but can't run to an AFL required level are not high on clubs wish lists.

Markov got another opportunity because he is fast and his existing relationship with McRea.

I like Bytel, but I think delisting him is the correct move.




Looking forward to reading someone write about Greg Williams being slow :lol:


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Re: Bytel

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D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 12:33pm
B.M wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 11:29am He’ll be picked up

This year or next

Richmond got rid of Oleg Markov, then the GC did

Now he’s a starting player in the best team in the comp

Just because a s*** team gets rid of a player, doesn’t make them a dud, it probably means the environment they were in was s*** and didn’t suit them.

Hundreds of players have left clubs only to flourish elsewhere

We more than anyone should know that!
I don't believe Bytel will get another opportunity.

Players like Bytel and Constable who are very decent players and way above VFL standard, but can't run to an AFL required level are not high on clubs wish lists.

Markov got another opportunity because he is fast and his existing relationship with McRea.

I like Bytel, but I think delisting him is the correct move.




Looking forward to reading someone write about Greg Williams being slow :lol:
Greg Williams was slow


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Re: Bytel

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I'm a bytel fan but he is too slow and turns the ball over too much to be in most sides.

As the #1 man inside a contest winning the footy he excels- at our club he is 3rd or 4th in line for that role.

I actually think the best place he could go is Essendon where they lack that inside clearance machine.

Most likely outcome is he has a post St Kilda career similar to that of Dunstan.

I assume the morons s*** canning our club for not investing a sixth year in an injury prone player with upside won't be apologising if the most likely outcome turns out to be the reality.

Instead they will say his development was stunted here, overlooking the ability St Kilda have shown to develop late draft picks, midseason draft picks and rookie selections over recent times.


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Post: # 2031183Post D.B.Cooper »

I assume his spot is filled by Dow.

I’d prefer not to take Dow, but he’s better depth than Bytel IMO.


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Re: Bytel

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Otiman wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 10:37am We have the weakest midfield in the league and we dropped him.

Doubt anyone will be interested.
If he was a quick outside mid you might have a point. Bytel was behind 3 pretty handy inside mids.


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Re: Bytel

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GET OVER BYTEL FFS. He’s gone. He’s a dud. Move the fvck on ya old wa***** Everyone on reddit and big footy think you are stuffed in the head to think Bytel is this classy midfielder that’s going to revolutionise the game. We got three. Windy, Owens and Phillipou. Put your energy into them. Get over it.


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Re: Bytel

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nostalgicsaint wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 1:50pm I'm a bytel fan but he is too slow and turns the ball over too much to be in most sides.
Last game he played for the Saints was in Round 19 when he was used on a wing. He must be a winger

He couldn't play the Josh Daicos or Isaac Smith role on the wing so who'd want him? Right?!!

Funny really...Round 17 and 18 we were up against Melbourne and the Gold Coast Suns in consecutive weeks. Two teams with the best credentialled inside mids and among the best in the league at winning clearances and winning contested footy.

Bytel was left out of the side in those rounds, but was BOG for Sandringham in consecutive weeks and voted best player for the month of June for the Zebs.

You'd think we might want to use a young kid hungry to perform on the big stage and to showcase his strengths at winning clearances and winning contested footy, but no!! We leave him hanging until his form can't be ignored...AND then we play him on a wing!! Fvcking ridiculous. No common sense in that

So...in Round 19 we dropped Ronnie Byrnes for the match against North Melbourne and Ryan was replaced by that we'll known winger in Jack Bytel.


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This Bytel can’t run notion - where is that from? His ability to cover the ground was a strength. Not quick, neither are many pure inside Mids. But endurance good.

It’s a bit like Seb Ross is slow myth

His top end speed ranks top 5 at stK and he regularly hits 34.5k
Hill leads the way at 35.6kph


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TheGreatZacsby wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 3:11pm GET OVER BYTEL FFS. He’s gone. He’s a dud. Move the fvck on ya old wa****. Everyone on reddit and big footy think you are stuffed in the head to think Bytel is this classy midfielder that’s going to revolutionise the game. We got three. Windy, Owens and Phillipou. Put your energy into them. Get over it.
Pull your head in.


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B.M wrote: Wed 13 Sep 2023 7:30pm This Bytel can’t run notion - where is that from? His ability to cover the ground was a strength. Not quick, neither are many pure inside Mids. But endurance good.

It’s a bit like Seb Ross is slow myth

His top end speed ranks top 5 at stK and he regularly hits 34.5k
Hill leads the way at 35.6kph
Just the eye test to be honest, regularly seems to be last to spread from a contest.

Your point about him being a pure inside mid is what has held him back at the Saints. He is behind other better inside mids or other young talent who have more strings to their bow.

I really hope he ends up at a club that lacks in this area and goes well but fully understand why it isn't going to work out for him at our club.


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Re: Bytel

Post: # 2031294Post saintbob »

Bytel is half the player Dunstan was, which sadly wasn’t quite good enough at the top level.
I’d be surprised if he gets another chance.


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Re: Bytel

Post: # 2031607Post Teflon »

Another good VFL player not good enough at AFL level - millions of them
He can’t spread , doesn’t win enough ball at top level
Has had plenty chances
37 touches racks em up easy in VFL but that’s 2 rungs below as we know
Move on


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Re: Bytel

Post: # 2031610Post SaintPav »

How would Bytel go tonight if he was playing for Port?

Kid has good hands but no leg speed. He’s also an average kick which lacks penetration.

Pity it’s not 1995.


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Re: Bytel

Post: # 2031613Post Teflon »

We saw last week how Giants ran us off our legs when they got the footy on the outside
Bytel is not our answer


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