As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
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As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
I looked at the filth's line up last week.
Hardly star studded.
Hit by injuries like most of us they elected to play a few newbies through necessity.
Sullivan the past 2 weeks
Harrison some regular gigs
McCrae - been in and out of the side
McInnes - ditto
Bytel - well he needs no introduction!
They tamed a lame insipid WCE side. Got hold of them by 70 odd points early.
My thoughts r that we need to turn over a new leaf and keep playing the likes of Wilson, Garcia, Hastie, Owen's, Windhager and Schoenmakers et al as we need to find out if they can cut it at AFL level.
Some just transition to AFL rather than waste away at VFL level in a sub standard competition.
Thoughts?
Hardly star studded.
Hit by injuries like most of us they elected to play a few newbies through necessity.
Sullivan the past 2 weeks
Harrison some regular gigs
McCrae - been in and out of the side
McInnes - ditto
Bytel - well he needs no introduction!
They tamed a lame insipid WCE side. Got hold of them by 70 odd points early.
My thoughts r that we need to turn over a new leaf and keep playing the likes of Wilson, Garcia, Hastie, Owen's, Windhager and Schoenmakers et al as we need to find out if they can cut it at AFL level.
Some just transition to AFL rather than waste away at VFL level in a sub standard competition.
Thoughts?
Sing it loud and sing it proud but most of all hang around for this club will rise to claim the prize and then we will realise its not such a surprise.
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Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
I also think Hayes and Hammer have what it takes.
Pou can play believe me on that.
He might benefit from a 4 week VFL block.
It works for some. Not all.
Pou can play believe me on that.
He might benefit from a 4 week VFL block.
It works for some. Not all.
Sing it loud and sing it proud but most of all hang around for this club will rise to claim the prize and then we will realise its not such a surprise.
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Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
I don't think it's simply about players. Last year was a bit of a honeymoon period for Ross Lyon. The new 'game plan' for players and the new messaging from the new coach was important, but so too was the need to impress and preserve your footy career.
It doesn't take much for players to lose faith in the game plan and the messaging can become stale very quickly when players aren't enjoying their footy...so let's see if Ross can turn around what seems to be (since the Essendon capitulation) a severe form slump.
I'm very impressed by the Collingwood coach. I find his positivity is totally infectious. He speaks clearly... and when they lose he takes full responsibility for their form ...and their game style
I remember his press conference after their 3rd loss in a row to start their year. They played Round Zero where as for us it was our second game of the year
He was calm, analytical and methodical in his press conference after that loss. He didn't deflect or make excuses. He spoke honestly and he gave frank assessments on his leaders and senior players.
The other thing that impressed me and that I remember vividly was his humble nature. He said firstly he looked inwardly. He looked at what he was doing.
So he also talked immediately about solutions. He remained positive. He seemed to be able to grasp exactly what was needed to motivate his group. I also rate Justin Leppitch as one of the best (if not 'the best') assistant coach in the caper.
It doesn't take much for players to lose faith in the game plan and the messaging can become stale very quickly when players aren't enjoying their footy...so let's see if Ross can turn around what seems to be (since the Essendon capitulation) a severe form slump.
I'm very impressed by the Collingwood coach. I find his positivity is totally infectious. He speaks clearly... and when they lose he takes full responsibility for their form ...and their game style
I remember his press conference after their 3rd loss in a row to start their year. They played Round Zero where as for us it was our second game of the year
He was calm, analytical and methodical in his press conference after that loss. He didn't deflect or make excuses. He spoke honestly and he gave frank assessments on his leaders and senior players.
The other thing that impressed me and that I remember vividly was his humble nature. He said firstly he looked inwardly. He looked at what he was doing.
So he also talked immediately about solutions. He remained positive. He seemed to be able to grasp exactly what was needed to motivate his group. I also rate Justin Leppitch as one of the best (if not 'the best') assistant coach in the caper.
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Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
My Mrs is a Collingwood supporter. Her sisters are Collingwood supporters too. Took after their mum who was a passionate footy fan ...
Anyhow... I'm in a difficult situation where I have to watch some of the Collingwood press conferences because I also subject her to some of the Saints ones.
I usually get on my phone while McCrae is on (reading Saintsational ) but I do remember the presser after they lost to us.
Contrast and compare our coach and his last couple of pressers with McCrae
Anyhow... I'm in a difficult situation where I have to watch some of the Collingwood press conferences because I also subject her to some of the Saints ones.
I usually get on my phone while McCrae is on (reading Saintsational ) but I do remember the presser after they lost to us.
Contrast and compare our coach and his last couple of pressers with McCrae
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Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
We are currently playing more inexperienced players in our AFL lineup than is ideal. If you have too many, the team is just going to get clobbered, and young players aren't going to learn particularly well in that situation.
In NRL, a longstanding coaching strategy is that, if you have a few good young players in reserve grade and your first team is going crap, you keep the young players in the reserves for the rest of the season and hope they keep learning how to win games. AFL clubs don't seem to operate that way, but there's something in it IMO.
In NRL, a longstanding coaching strategy is that, if you have a few good young players in reserve grade and your first team is going crap, you keep the young players in the reserves for the rest of the season and hope they keep learning how to win games. AFL clubs don't seem to operate that way, but there's something in it IMO.
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Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
Beat up on West Coast in Victoria. Generally Pies fans are begging Collingwood to inject some kids.ShakenNotStirred wrote: ↑Thu 16 May 2024 1:52am I looked at the filth's line up last week.
Hardly star studded.
Hit by injuries like most of us they elected to play a few newbies through necessity.
Sullivan the past 2 weeks
Harrison some regular gigs
McCrae - been in and out of the side
McInnes - ditto
Bytel - well he needs no introduction!
They tamed a lame insipid WCE side. Got hold of them by 70 odd points early.
My thoughts r that we need to turn over a new leaf and keep playing the likes of Wilson, Garcia, Hastie, Owen's, Windhager and Schoenmakers et al as we need to find out if they can cut it at AFL level.
Some just transition to AFL rather than waste away at VFL level in a sub standard competition.
Thoughts?
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Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
Scollop wrote: ↑Thu 16 May 2024 2:46am I don't think it's simply about players. Last year was a bit of a honeymoon period for Ross Lyon. The new 'game plan' for players and the new messaging from the new coach was important, but so too was the need to impress and preserve your footy career.
It doesn't take much for players to lose faith in the game plan and the messaging can become stale very quickly when players aren't enjoying their footy...so let's see if Ross can turn around what seems to be (since the Essendon capitulation) a severe form slump.
I'm very impressed by the Collingwood coach. I find his positivity is totally infectious. He speaks clearly... and when they lose he takes full responsibility for their form ...and their game style
I remember his press conference after their 3rd loss in a row to start their year. They played Round Zero where as for us it was our second game of the year
He was calm, analytical and methodical in his press conference after that loss. He didn't deflect or make excuses. He spoke honestly and he gave frank assessments on his leaders and senior players.
The other thing that impressed me and that I remember vividly was his humble nature. He said firstly he looked inwardly. He looked at what he was doing.
So he also talked immediately about solutions. He remained positive. He seemed to be able to grasp exactly what was needed to motivate his group. I also rate Justin Leppitch as one of the best (if not 'the best') assistant coach in the caper.
In a injury ravaged season with a ridiculously tough draw we have lost 5 games by a total of about 20 points.
Bit of luck we win all 5 I doubt the players have lost faith.
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Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
A horribly miserable cold wet winter awaits that big bunch of Collingwood players who are well into their 30s,
They are about to fall off a cliff.
They are about to fall off a cliff.
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Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
For once , I hope you are right.
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Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
Why don't you double down on that bet you took for them not to make the top 8.
The odds will be nice and juicy for you
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Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
Funnily enough, and as you’d expect, I’m showing a lot of interest in the Pies this season, they’ve bounced ok from their poor start but playing catch up is is going to catch up with them soon enough, it will come when the older guys start dropping. Who knows maybe not, but we haven’t hit winter yet and that’s historically when it gets hard for teams in the Pies precarious position.
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Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
Ross is a seasoned media performer and his pressers and appearances should be considered with that in mind.
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Re: As much as I loathe them maybe we should throw caution to the wind...
N. Daicos. Captain Moore. If they or either go down for a few weeks Coach Fly might have to change from sanguine to reflective again.