What really stings

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
skeptic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 17028
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
Has thanked: 3647 times
Been thanked: 2918 times

What really stings

Post: # 448157Post skeptic »

It appeared that our core list peaked from about 2004-06
In those years Port, Bris, Adel, Wce and Syd to a lesser degree always looked a bit like the unstoppable jaggurnuat teams.
We all felt that once the finals started it would be extremely tough to beat any of these teams interstate...

This year, of the final 8 I only fear Port. We could mop the floor with any of the rest on our day... sure they might beat us to but we would have been dangerous. I guess IMO the standard of footy is a bit lower this year than it has been recently.

Our 2004 team would have won the premiership this year. No doubt about it. This is one year that really got away and I'm not blaming it on RL, but yeah that sucks


Prodgers
Club Player
Posts: 724
Joined: Wed 19 May 2004 3:20pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post: # 448159Post Prodgers »

im still at the belief that we have the best list in the AFL, just the brand of footy they have played just hasnt got them to where they should...

I hear what your saying about the standard of this years comp, agree 100%


User avatar
SaintWodonga
Club Player
Posts: 1868
Joined: Wed 04 Jul 2007 12:01am
Location: Wodonga
Contact:

Post: # 448161Post SaintWodonga »

Who has really come on since 2004/05?

Gilbert yes. But in the same time our recruiting has been poor, too slow and not many new talents since that time frame. We don't need hacks from other clubs, rather we need to use the draft properly.

I can't believe that Howard was last year's 2nd pick for us. Couldn't beleive it when it happened. In hindsight even worse. Seems like JB wanted to pull smokies maybe for his ego.. Not sure. The recruiting hasn't been great for a while and must be addressed.


Tony Lockett kicks 10 goals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v4ZQJHjlvM
User avatar
evertonfc
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7262
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 9:11pm
Location: 'Quietly Confident' County
Has thanked: 115 times
Been thanked: 267 times
Contact:

Post: # 448163Post evertonfc »

On paper, our list is easily top four.

But I fear that Aaron Hamill and Michael Gardiner will play only on Reflex A4, not Telstra Dome :(


Clueless and mediocre petty tyrant.

Image
StSteven
Club Player
Posts: 1169
Joined: Wed 20 Sep 2006 6:55pm

Post: # 448164Post StSteven »

Let's face reality. Other teams eg Geelong have passed us in performance, recruiting and development.

Take a look at Selwood's perfformance tonight. A first year player who was BOG tonight in a team that is on fire. There is no way we are at their standard. To believe we are is delusional.


User avatar
mad saint guy
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7077
Joined: Tue 26 Jul 2005 9:44pm
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 52 times
Been thanked: 366 times

Post: # 448165Post mad saint guy »

Our core in 2008

Hudghton 30
Hayes 27
Baker 27
S.Fisher 25
Riewoldt 24
Koschitzke 24
Dal Santo 23
Gram 23
Ball 23
Maguire 23
Montagna 23
Goddard 22
Gilbert 21

2011
Hayes 30
S.Fisher 28
Riewoldt 27
Koschitzke 27
Dal Santo 26
Gram 26
Ball 26
Maguire 26
Montagna 26
X.Clarke 26
Goddard 25
Gilbert 24
R.Clarke 24
Watts 24
Armitage 22

We will be a much better side from 2010-2013 than we are now. With Roo, Kosi, Ball, Dal, Joey, Gram, Goose, X, BJ and Gilbo all in the prime of their career we should be a dominant team.


linz
Club Player
Posts: 1209
Joined: Wed 27 Jul 2005 8:11pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times
Contact:

Post: # 448166Post linz »

Speed Speed Speed (without drugs). That's the answer.


I once spent a year in Adelaide, I think it was on a Sunday.
StSteven
Club Player
Posts: 1169
Joined: Wed 20 Sep 2006 6:55pm

Post: # 448167Post StSteven »

Nah....let's go for 2015. Gives me more time to be free of the burden of expectation!
Last edited by StSteven on Sat 01 Sep 2007 11:52pm, edited 1 time in total.


User avatar
Carl Mynott
Club Player
Posts: 270
Joined: Mon 21 May 2007 1:30pm

Post: # 448169Post Carl Mynott »

Prodgers wrote:im still at the belief that we have the best list in the AFL,
I hope for us life long supporters sake RL doesn't believe this shite...

The list is flawed,this alleged best list hasn't done much yet,it needs to be tweaked,that is a non arguable fact...unfortunately......



:roll:


The more things change the more they stay the same
User avatar
St. Luke
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5268
Joined: Wed 17 Mar 2004 12:34pm
Location: Hiding at Telstra Dome!

Post: # 448202Post St. Luke »

mad saint guy wrote:Our core in 2008

Hudghton 30
Hayes 27
Baker 27
S.Fisher 25
Riewoldt 24
Koschitzke 24
Dal Santo 23
Gram 23
Ball 23
Maguire 23
Montagna 23
Goddard 22
Gilbert 21

2011
Hayes 30
S.Fisher 28
Riewoldt 27
Koschitzke 27
Dal Santo 26
Gram 26
Ball 26
Maguire 26
Montagna 26
X.Clarke 26
Goddard 25
Gilbert 24
R.Clarke 24
Watts 24
Armitage 22

We will be a much better side from 2010-2013 than we are now. With Roo, Kosi, Ball, Dal, Joey, Gram, Goose, X, BJ and Gilbo all in the prime of their career we should be a dominant team.
We've still got a reasonably young list. Nice assessment MSG!


When they created LENNY HAYES (in the shadow of Harvs) they forgot to break the mold (again)- hence the Supremely Incredible Jack Steven!!
Saints-06-Premiers
Club Player
Posts: 394
Joined: Tue 27 Sep 2005 10:08pm

Post: # 448208Post Saints-06-Premiers »

mad saint guy wrote:Our core in 2008

Hudghton 30
Hayes 27
Baker 27
S.Fisher 25
Riewoldt 24
Koschitzke 24
Dal Santo 23
Gram 23
Ball 23
Maguire 23
Montagna 23
Goddard 22
Gilbert 21

2011
Hayes 30
S.Fisher 28
Riewoldt 27
Koschitzke 27
Dal Santo 26
Gram 26
Ball 26
Maguire 26
Montagna 26
X.Clarke 26
Goddard 25
Gilbert 24
R.Clarke 24
Watts 24
Armitage 22

We will be a much better side from 2010-2013 than we are now. With Roo, Kosi, Ball, Dal, Joey, Gram, Goose, X, BJ and Gilbo all in the prime of their career we should be a dominant team.
There is no way I'm waiting until 2010.
Maybe the players can feel what its like to miss finals and come back next season and give it a red hot crack.


Too lazy to update my username
User avatar
Iceman234
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6533
Joined: Wed 20 Jul 2005 1:29am

Post: # 448211Post Iceman234 »

Saints-06-Premiers wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:Our core in 2008

Hudghton 30
Hayes 27
Baker 27
S.Fisher 25
Riewoldt 24
Koschitzke 24
Dal Santo 23
Gram 23
Ball 23
Maguire 23
Montagna 23
Goddard 22
Gilbert 21

2011
Hayes 30
S.Fisher 28
Riewoldt 27
Koschitzke 27
Dal Santo 26
Gram 26
Ball 26
Maguire 26
Montagna 26
X.Clarke 26
Goddard 25
Gilbert 24
R.Clarke 24
Watts 24
Armitage 22

We will be a much better side from 2010-2013 than we are now. With Roo, Kosi, Ball, Dal, Joey, Gram, Goose, X, BJ and Gilbo all in the prime of their career we should be a dominant team.
There is no way I'm waiting until 2010.
Maybe the players can feel what its like to miss finals and come back next season and give it a red hot crack.
And of course .....

Harvey 40

???


User avatar
Winmar
Club Player
Posts: 922
Joined: Tue 23 Mar 2004 11:52pm
Location: Canberra
Has thanked: 14 times
Been thanked: 26 times

Post: # 448241Post Winmar »

The core of our list is still very good, but some of the fringe players really aren't good enough. Our players make horrendous errors all too often, and give away at least one goal a week through sheer stupidity.


Post Reply