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Indigenous Flag Wammed

Post: # 1861222Post ace »

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/abo ... 55m6x.html

The indigenous flag will not be seen in the indigenous round.

Seems it is not an indigenous flag after all but a WAM flag.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... g-fake-art
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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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Why not use the german civil flag instead.
It has been around a lot longer.


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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Pity. The flag should belong to all indigenous peoples not to some company out for profit.


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

Post: # 1861249Post roskilde »

saynta wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 4:47pm Pity. The flag should belong to all indigenous peoples not to some company out for profit.
Blame Harold Thomas the creator. He's the one who sold it to them.


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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roskilde wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 4:57pm
saynta wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 4:47pm Pity. The flag should belong to all indigenous peoples not to some company out for profit.
Blame Harold Thomas the creator. He's the one who sold it to them.
Yeah, aware of that.


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

Post: # 1861272Post Joffa Burns »

saynta wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 4:47pm Pity. The flag should belong to all indigenous peoples not to some company out for profit.
Yes it should, totally agree with the sentiment.

But if it was sold by Harold Thomas or some legal agreement was reached between Thomas and the WAM organization as the article alludes WAM have every right to receive compensation for the usage.

Probably a very naive thought but perhaps the government could purchase the rights from WAM and free the usage for all indigenous people and sporting organisations to use in a not for profit sense.


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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What a strange world we live in.


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plus
no indigy jumper for us this week ... pity


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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Joffa Burns wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 5:28pm
saynta wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 4:47pm Pity. The flag should belong to all indigenous peoples not to some company out for profit.
Yes it should, totally agree with the sentiment.

But if it was sold by Harold Thomas or some legal agreement was reached between Thomas and the WAM organization as the article alludes WAM have every right to receive compensation for the usage.

Probably a very naive thought but perhaps the government could purchase the rights from WAM and free the usage for all indigenous people and sporting organisations to use in a not for profit sense.
Good idea.


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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Labor's Paul Keating had the aboriginal proclaimed an official Australian Flag on 14 July 1995.
The Labor government demonstrated their usual incompetence by failing to obtain the copyright to the flag.


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ace wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 8:42pm Labor's Paul Keating had the aboriginal proclaimed an official Australian Flag on 14 July 1995.
The Labor government demonstrated their usual incompetence by failing to obtain the copyright to the flag.
How can the government copyright something it doesn't own?

Why does everything have to be some stupid, grug brain partisan issue for so many people?

This has nothing to do with the Labour party and everything to do with the rightful owner selling the rights to his creation as is his legal right.


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Re: Indigenous Flag Wammed

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roskilde wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 8:43pm
ace wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 8:42pm Labor's Paul Keating had the aboriginal proclaimed an official Australian Flag on 14 July 1995.
The Labor government demonstrated their usual incompetence by failing to obtain the copyright to the flag.
How can the government copyright something it doesn't own?

Why does everything have to be some stupid, grug brain partisan issue for so many people?
The government could have bought the copyright just as WAM has done, only done it 25 years early before they proclaimed it a national flag.
We now have a national flag that does not belong to the nation.


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ace wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 8:46pm
roskilde wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 8:43pm
ace wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 8:42pm Labor's Paul Keating had the aboriginal proclaimed an official Australian Flag on 14 July 1995.
The Labor government demonstrated their usual incompetence by failing to obtain the copyright to the flag.
How can the government copyright something it doesn't own?

Why does everything have to be some stupid, grug brain partisan issue for so many people?
The government could have bought the copyright just as WAM has done, only done it 25 years early before they proclaimed it a national flag.
We now have a national flag that does not belong to the nation.
Mr. Thomas got better offers from the private industry and accepted them. Again I have no idea what this has to do with partisan politics.


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Or maybe these WAM blokes could do the right thing and hand it over to the people, they’ve milked it for 50 years, I’m sure that’s long enough.


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The_Dud wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 8:58pm Or maybe these WAM blokes could do the right thing and hand it over to the people, they’ve milked it for 50 years, I’m sure that’s long enough.
'Milked it'? They bought the rights from the creator -- likely for a hefty fee -- and they're exercising their ownership.

What on Earth are you babbling about?

They're also not the only person he's sold the image to.


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The_Dud wrote: Mon 17 Aug 2020 8:58pm Or maybe these WAM blokes could do the right thing and hand it over to the people, they’ve milked it for 50 years, I’m sure that’s long enough.
WAM obtained exclusive licence in November 2018, became a national flag in 1995.


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50 years ?

que

granted the licence in 2017 for an exclusive on ‘clothing’
to a dodgy white dude
with an additional licence to a flag maker
(in the second link)

dodgy white dude sitting pretty

same old same old isn’t it ?


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Post: # 1861340Post The_Dud »

Sorry, thought it said they obtained the copyright in 1971, my bad.

It does seem odd the government didn’t purchase the copyright when it became available.


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We only need one flag in this country
A red white and black one !


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Yeah good point Joffa! Who is WAM? I have no idea what this is about


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Been an issue of discussion for many years. The owner has always sought to profit from it. Easy fix - design a new one. Should've done it a long time ago. Many blackfellas were arguing for this when news of the sale came out and they discovered they were suddenly restricted from using it.


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The irony in this is quite laughable really, given they dont recognise the Australian flag.


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Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 18 Aug 2020 1:39am The irony in this is quite laughable really, given they dont recognise the Australian flag.
You can't refer to them as they.
Oops, I may just have made the same mistake.


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pull your head in Ace

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