Saints to change its approach to Hannebery's persistant injuries

[saynta]

From heraldsun.com.au


St Kilda is set to change its approach to Daniel Hannebery’s persistent run of soft tissue injuries in a bid to return the midfielder to the game and extend his career.

The Saints on Friday admitted the former Swan was frustrated and hurt by his nightmare calf and hamstring problems which have dogged Hannebery again this season.

The premiership midfielder was brought to the club on a big money deal but the injury issues have limited Hannebery to only 13 games in three seasons.

While time is running out for Hannebery, St Kilda chief operating officer Simon Lethlean said the Saints have not given up faith of the 30-year-old having an impact in 2021.

The Saints are under pressure to lift against Port Adelaide on Sunday to avoid falling to 2-4 in a blow to their hopes of playing finals again this season.

Lethlean admitted the persistent injuries had taken a toll on Hannebery but the club was set to tweak its approach to his program to help get a better result.

“He is certainly very important when we get him out there, but that hasn’t been happening,” Lethlean said on SEN.


“That is a frustration for the club and it is a frustration for him and our fans.


“He is working his butt off and nothing is working for him right now, so it is disappointing for him and it hurts. It hurts him and we want him out there.

“But rest assured he is working harder than anyone and he is still a few weeks away.

“We are looking at how we can restructure his program.

“He has been having calf complaints on the back of not particularly intense work, so there is something else going on as compared to ripping soft tissue.

“So that’s a work in progress, it is very frustrating.”

Lethlean said Hannebery hasn’t been able to make the contribution he would have liked since departing the Swans.

“He hasn’t had the career he wanted at the Saints but I’m convinced if he can get himself back on track he can have a big impact,” he said.

“If it keeps being that he can’t play, time will start to burn out, but we are not looking at it that way.

“We expect him to get back in a few weeks’ time. It is not working at the moment, so it’s not ideal.”
Dan Hannebery has played just 13 games for the Saints."

[Wayne42]

The best approach would be to convince him to retire, before he becomes a list clogger.

[Teflon]

No one doubts his footy smarts on when he’s going he lifts our midfield blue collar look (outside Steele) immediately
We all know that’s rare
IMO it’s this year then if we can’t get a decent block of gs es out of him it’s hard chat time seasons end

[Joffa Burns]

From heraldsun.com.au


St Kilda is set to change its approach to Daniel Hannebery’s persistent run of soft tissue injuries in a bid to return the midfielder to the game and extend his career.

The Saints on Friday admitted the former Swan was frustrated and hurt by his nightmare calf and hamstring problems which have dogged Hannebery again this season.

The premiership midfielder was brought to the club on a big money deal but the injury issues have limited Hannebery to only 13 games in three seasons.

While time is running out for Hannebery, St Kilda chief operating officer Simon Lethlean said the Saints have not given up faith of the 30-year-old having an impact in 2021.

The Saints are under pressure to lift against Port Adelaide on Sunday to avoid falling to 2-4 in a blow to their hopes of playing finals again this season.

Lethlean admitted the persistent injuries had taken a toll on Hannebery but the club was set to tweak its approach to his program to help get a better result.

“He is certainly very important when we get him out there, but that hasn’t been happening,” Lethlean said on SEN.


“That is a frustration for the club and it is a frustration for him and our fans.


“He is working his butt off and nothing is working for him right now, so it is disappointing for him and it hurts. It hurts him and we want him out there.

“But rest assured he is working harder than anyone and he is still a few weeks away.

“We are looking at how we can restructure his program.

“He has been having calf complaints on the back of not particularly intense work, so there is something else going on as compared to ripping soft tissue.

“So that’s a work in progress, it is very frustrating.”

Lethlean said Hannebery hasn’t been able to make the contribution he would have liked since departing the Swans.

“He hasn’t had the career he wanted at the Saints but I’m convinced if he can get himself back on track he can have a big impact,” he said.

“If it keeps being that he can’t play, time will start to burn out, but we are not looking at it that way.

“We expect him to get back in a few weeks’ time. It is not working at the moment, so it’s not ideal.”
Dan Hannebery has played just 13 games for the Saints."

St Kilda is set to change its approach to Daniel Hannebery’s persistent run of soft tissue injuries in a bid to return the midfielder to the game and extend his career.


Let's hope that doesn't mean his 5th year is still on the table.

“He is working his butt off and nothing is working for him right now, so it is disappointing for him and it hurts. It hurts him and we want him out there.

“But rest assured he is working harder than anyone and he is still a few weeks away.


Not sure all these statements line up with below Simon.

“He has been having calf complaints on the back of not particularly intense work, so there is something else going on as compared to ripping soft tissue.

We are like a pathetic gambling addict still thinking we can win our money back.
Face facts, the recruitment is another bust that everyone in the AFL and most on this site saw coming.

Take a leaf out of Dylan Roberton's book and do the right thing and retire Hannebery.

[saintsRrising]

From heraldsun.com.au


St Kilda is set to change its approach to Daniel Hannebery’s persistent run of soft tissue injuries in a bid to return the midfielder to the game and extend his career.

The Saints on Friday admitted the former Swan was frustrated and hurt by his nightmare calf and hamstring problems which have dogged Hannebery again this season.

The premiership midfielder was brought to the club on a big money deal but the injury issues have limited Hannebery to only 13 games in three seasons.

While time is running out for Hannebery, St Kilda chief operating officer Simon Lethlean said the Saints have not given up faith of the 30-year-old having an impact in 2021.

The Saints are under pressure to lift against Port Adelaide on Sunday to avoid falling to 2-4 in a blow to their hopes of playing finals again this season.

Lethlean admitted the persistent injuries had taken a toll on Hannebery but the club was set to tweak its approach to his program to help get a better result.

“He is certainly very important when we get him out there, but that hasn’t been happening,” Lethlean said on SEN.


“That is a frustration for the club and it is a frustration for him and our fans.


“He is working his butt off and nothing is working for him right now, so it is disappointing for him and it hurts. It hurts him and we want him out there.

“But rest assured he is working harder than anyone and he is still a few weeks away.

“We are looking at how we can restructure his program.

“He has been having calf complaints on the back of not particularly intense work, so there is something else going on as compared to ripping soft tissue.

“So that’s a work in progress, it is very frustrating.”

Lethlean said Hannebery hasn’t been able to make the contribution he would have liked since departing the Swans.

“He hasn’t had the career he wanted at the Saints but I’m convinced if he can get himself back on track he can have a big impact,” he said.

“If it keeps being that he can’t play, time will start to burn out, but we are not looking at it that way.

“We expect him to get back in a few weeks’ time. It is not working at the moment, so it’s not ideal.”
Dan Hannebery has played just 13 games for the Saints."

So basically that just means that 1/ they know that he is injury prone, and 2/ have no idea on how that may be changed.

[Mr Magic]

or
3. have started the process of retirement for him.

[repta]

Once he is retired we can start on finding our next "project"

[spert]

A botched recruitment. I wish him well in his recovery, but we're not going forward with a player who has only played 13 games in three seasons and whose best is a long way behind him.

[The_Dud]

If only we could have seen this coming before we handed $4M to him.

Oh wait...

[CURLY]

Can't wait for him to get back we are a far better side when he plays.

[Sanctorum]

You have to cut the poor bugger some slack, imagine how bad he feels about his inability to recover from the raft of soft tissue injuries he has suffered since coming over from the Swans 2 years ago.

It is all very well to argue that he is on exceptionally good coin, but he will be very much aware that fans have their knives out for him, even if he doesn't look at the sometimes quite abusive flack posted on this forum.

The club just a week ago issued a reprimand to supporters who abuse players and officials on social media, and I am surprised that people who genuinely support St Kilda can direct such venom on this forum towards players and officials who are totally committed to the success of the footy club we all love!

The sub heading of this forum states the following:

"This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages and all posts must be respectful."

OP headings such as "F@ck Hannebery" and "Brad Hill is a Cancer that needs excising" are recent examples of discussions on this forum that are offensive in the extreme!

[Ghost Like]

You have to cut the poor bugger some slack, imagine how bad he feels about his inability to recover from the raft of soft tissue injuries he has suffered since coming over from the Swans 2 years ago.

It is all very well to argue that he is on exceptionally good coin, but he will be very much aware that fans have their knives out for him, even if he doesn't look at the sometimes quite abusive flack posted on this forum.

The club just a week ago issued a reprimand to supporters who abuse players and officials on social media, and I am surprised that people who genuinely support St Kilda can direct such venom on this forum towards players and officials who are totally committed to the success of the footy club we all love!

The sub heading of this forum states the following:

"This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages and all posts must be respectful."

OP headings such as "F@ck Hannebery" and "Brad Hill is a Cancer that needs excising" are recent examples of discussions on this forum that are offensive in the extreme!

I agree with absolutely everything you wrote Sanctorum except the first paragraph. Those raft of soft tissue injuries began when he was at Sydney, they sold him as the 2015 version and therein lies the problem.

All else written, spot on mate.

[skeptic]

What a nothing article...

Quite literally the entire story is in the headline

Doesn’t even say what the changes are. Just that they think something else is going on

Ppl pay money for this!?

I so should have been a journalist

‘Skeptic says Saints have concerns RE Hannebery calf issues’

Front page. 1000 words

Onto Hannebery... it doesn’t really seem like there’s anything more to do here. Seems the injury is just too chronic.
Not unlike Hamil whose knee would flair up post game no matter how well rested.

Personally I think all that there’s left to do is negotiate a pay out and not keep him on the list for another 2 years

Sucks for the guy but he’s not playing

[Laurie]

His body was cooked when we drafted him.
The gurus in the know at St.Kilda knew this but still persisted in offering him big coin and signing him.
I think those same people Lethlean and co. should be in dicussions to end his time at St Kilda 13 games in 3 years i really cannot see him playing many more games for the sainters.

[cwrcyn]

It's got that David Armitage feel about it. Mind you, Sam Fisher had a couple of horror years not getting on the park, but then came good. Sam Gilbert experienced similar issues and came back. This one looks pretty bleak, though. Hannebery is not even able to get to 3/4 running intensity without re-injuring. Money down the drain, just like Freeman we got from Collingwood. Time to go back to th draft.

[Waltzing St Kilda]

The club is run by gamblers. They have the gamber's mentality.

Roll the dice. Take the long odds. Bet the house on Number 8.

If the ball falls in the right slot, there's an immense buzz.

if it doesn't, they dig deeper into their pockets and gamble some more.

[Joffa Burns]

Can't wait for him to get back we are a far better side when he plays.

Interesting comment, what do you base this on?
Is it his contribution, leadership, training standards, on-field coaching or something else to which you refer?

The reason I ask is statistically he appears to have little positive impact when playing.

In 2019 we won only one of the five games he played (win ratio 20%) against a win/loss season of 40% with Hannebery hardly setting the game alight with an average 25 possessions and not registering elite in any category.

In 2020 we averaged a win/loss ratio of 58% and 62% with Dan in the team across his 8 games where he averaged 17 possessions and again failed to register as elite in any category.

Lastly, I was at the Bulldogs final and his game was way overrated by TV viewers in my opinion as Hannebery was by himself for large parts of the game on the wing and was not pushing back deep into defence like the half forwards and other wingers were doing.

Dan was an elite player, absolute gut running gun midfielder in his prime, but since 2018 has been a butt average AFL player who can barely get on the park.

It is sad to watch the decline of someone who was an AFL champion to become what Dan now is, a broken down player desperately clinging to the past and trying to get back.

I wish he could get back, but it is getting highly more unlikely by the week as the game gets quicker and he is slowing and struggling with injury, now that is fact.

[Joffa Burns]

You have to cut the poor bugger some slack, imagine how bad he feels about his inability to recover from the raft of soft tissue injuries he has suffered since coming over from the Swans 2 years ago.

It is all very well to argue that he is on exceptionally good coin, but he will be very much aware that fans have their knives out for him, even if he doesn't look at the sometimes quite abusive flack posted on this forum.

The club just a week ago issued a reprimand to supporters who abuse players and officials on social media, and I am surprised that people who genuinely support St Kilda can direct such venom on this forum towards players and officials who are totally committed to the success of the footy club we all love!

The sub heading of this forum states the following:

"This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages and all posts must be respectful."

OP headings such as "F@ck Hannebery" and "Brad Hill is a Cancer that needs excising" are recent examples of discussions on this forum that are offensive in the extreme!

I respect your opinion but no for me, F@ck Hannebery!

This is a business and not a retirement home.
When I sold my business to an ASX listed company I had a 2 year performance based earn out and had to warrant for 5 years all the information provided was factual.

This is business and Hannebery hasn't delivered so f@ck him, make him retire and get out and recruit some young talent we can develop or at least imports who are physically able to take the field and not broken down has-beens on arrival at the club.

Hannebery is a bust, cut the losses, do a deal for him to retire gracefully, f@ck him off out of the club and move forward. He was a great AFL player, a gun in his prime, but his time has come like all champions and we owe him NOTHING!

[MickThomas]

+1000
I stand with every word that Joffa says.
The team is bigger than any individual.

[perfectionist]

Haven't they heard of drugs? There are all sorts of hormones that will do the trick. Send him on a trip to Germany - to see the sights. It's worked for other clubs - what could go wrong? Even if he comes back looking like a horse, at least we could run him the Cup.

[Darth Vader]

Haven't they heard of drugs? There are all sorts of hormones that will do the trick. Send him on a trip to Germany - to see the sights. It's worked for other clubs - what could go wrong? Even if he comes back looking like a horse, at least we could run him the Cup.

I think they already tried Professor Frankenfurter.

[Goose is king]

I for one have put a line through him ever being a solid contributor. Next

[whiskers3614]

Haven't they heard of drugs? There are all sorts of hormones that will do the trick. Send him on a trip to Germany - to see the sights. It's worked for other clubs - what could go wrong? Even if he comes back looking like a horse, at least we could run him the Cup.

Didn't Freeman go there off his own bat?

[CURLY]

Can't wait for him to get back we are a far better side when he plays.

Interesting comment, what do you base this on?
Is it his contribution, leadership, training standards, on-field coaching or something else to which you refer?

The reason I ask is statistically he appears to have little positive impact when playing.

In 2019 we won only one of the five games he played (win ratio 20%) against a win/loss season of 40% with Hannebery hardly setting the game alight with an average 25 possessions and not registering elite in any category.

In 2020 we averaged a win/loss ratio of 58% and 62% with Dan in the team across his 8 games where he averaged 17 possessions and again failed to register as elite in any category.

Lastly, I was at the Bulldogs final and his game was way overrated by TV viewers in my opinion as Hannebery was by himself for large parts of the game on the wing and was not pushing back deep into defence like the half forwards and other wingers were doing.

Dan was an elite player, absolute gut running gun midfielder in his prime, but since 2018 has been a butt average AFL player who can barely get on the park.

It is sad to watch the decline of someone who was an AFL champion to become what Dan now is, a broken down player desperately clinging to the past and trying to get back.

I wish he could get back, but it is getting highly more unlikely by the week as the game gets quicker and he is slowing and struggling with injury, now that is fact.

I think we structure up better when he’s around the clearances. He also sets us up with basically every disposal always takes the best option. Rarely let’s the ball gets past he either kills the loose ball so we get another contest rather than letting the opposition walk it out.

[Ghost Like]

You have to cut the poor bugger some slack, imagine how bad he feels about his inability to recover from the raft of soft tissue injuries he has suffered since coming over from the Swans 2 years ago.

It is all very well to argue that he is on exceptionally good coin, but he will be very much aware that fans have their knives out for him, even if he doesn't look at the sometimes quite abusive flack posted on this forum.

The club just a week ago issued a reprimand to supporters who abuse players and officials on social media, and I am surprised that people who genuinely support St Kilda can direct such venom on this forum towards players and officials who are totally committed to the success of the footy club we all love!

The sub heading of this forum states the following:

"This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages and all posts must be respectful."

OP headings such as "F@ck Hannebery" and "Brad Hill is a Cancer that needs excising" are recent examples of discussions on this forum that are offensive in the extreme!

I respect your opinion but no for me, F@ck Hannebery!

This is a business and not a retirement home.
When I sold my business to an ASX listed company I had a 2 year performance based earn out and had to warrant for 5 years all the information provided was factual.

This is business and Hannebery hasn't delivered so f@ck him, make him retire and get out and recruit some young talent we can develop or at least imports who are physically able to take the field and not broken down has-beens on arrival at the club.

Hannebery is a bust, cut the losses, do a deal for him to retire gracefully, f@ck him off out of the club and move forward. He was a great AFL player, a gun in his prime, but his time has come like all champions and we owe him NOTHING!

I disagree with the headline of F@ck Hannebery JB, that's personal imo. Other club's supporters are laughing at our recruitment of him, not him, so F@ck those who RECRUITED him!