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Injury update

Post: # 1996835Post aussie sainter »

Coffield 4-6 weeks calf
Members unlikely round 1
Ross also unlikely calf
Hayes now unlikely before bye

Just keeps getting better :roll:


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Re: Injury update

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https://www.saints.com.au/news/1281637/ ... -absentees

Faqk. 14 players on the injury list and we haven't fired a shot in anger


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Re: Injury update

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someone is going to ask the question soon enough you'd think about Ross's training methods.


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Re: Injury update

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It is officially an injury crisis

Never seen a list this long at the start of a season

Shocking

Probably 8 first 22 players unavailable


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Re: Injury update

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B.M wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:35am It is officially an injury crisis

Never seen a list this long at the start of a season

Shocking

Probably 8 first 22 players unavailable
And probably not coming back for awhile, Members included.


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Re: Injury update

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Not good news but opportunity opens up for Byrnes, Clark, Paton and probably Sharman. Will settle a lot of speculation, maybe. Be interesting who plays the other half back spot.


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Re: Injury update

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Yorkeys wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:48am Not good news but opportunity opens up for Byrnes, Clark, Paton and probably Sharman. Will settle a lot of speculation, maybe. Be interesting who plays the other half back spot.
Bytel, not Byrnes and Caminiti not Sharman. Clark is a given, but not sure about Paton.


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Re: Injury update

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All of those probably play


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Re: Injury update

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Massive blow for Coff.

We have been cursed by the injury gods that’s for aure


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Re: Injury update

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Vortex wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:31am someone is going to ask the question soon enough you'd think about Ross's training methods.
I think it's mostly players wanting to impress a new coach. The club has gained a lot of hunger in the past 5 months.

Nobody has called base fitness (pre-Lyon) into question either, but I don't think it's relevant.


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Re: Injury update

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The news about Coffield is sad for him personally, but we can cover for him (as we did all through 2022). I reckon we can cover for Ross as well, and hopefully he isn't too far away.

It's a shame Membrey isn't going to be ready for Round 1, but I had never really believed it anyway after such recent knee surgery. Hopefully he's only a couple of week away as well, but you never really know with knees.

Windhager remains still the most important guy to get back for Sunday night, if at all possible. We went ok against the Bombers without the others, but I reckon he would make quite a difference against Freo.

I'm still looking forward to Sunday night: let's leave the weeping, wailing, gnashing of teeth and hair pulling until after the game. I'm predicting that we'll still be in it at 3/4 time, but that they'll probably run over us by a few goals at the end. That would be an excellent performance, given how many players we have out.


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Re: Injury update

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Otiman wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 12:17pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:31am someone is going to ask the question soon enough you'd think about Ross's training methods.
I think it's mostly players wanting to impress a new coach. The club has gained a lot of hunger in the past 5 months.

Nobody has called base fitness (pre-Lyon) into question either, but I don't think it's relevant.
Personally, I blame training services.


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Re: Injury update

Post: # 1996857Post Otiman »

I'll have a go at putting together an "injured squad". It looks like our backs are reasonably injury free.

B: X X X
HB: Coffield X McKenzie
C: Billings Jones X
HF: Membrey Hayes X
F: X King X

R: Heath, Ross, Windhager

Bench: Keeler, Hotton, Allison, McLennan


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Re: Injury update

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Bummer about Coffield. Can’t take a trick. He’s potentially a very good player if he can get a decent run at it


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Re: Injury update

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saynta wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:04am https://www.saints.com.au/news/1281637/ ... -absentees

Faqk. 14 players on the injury list and we haven't fired a shot in anger
Has to be the surface at Moorabbin. Too hard and no give I reckon.
Absolute joke.

Worst preseason we have had injury wise since 2001. It should fast track some of our young players, like Bytel, and guys we have brought in like Stocker, Caminiti, and Sharman.


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Re: Injury update

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saynta wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:51am
Yorkeys wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:48am Not good news but opportunity opens up for Byrnes, Clark, Paton and probably Sharman. Will settle a lot of speculation, maybe. Be interesting who plays the other half back spot.
Bytel, not Byrnes and Caminiti not Sharman. Clark is a given, but not sure about Paton.
Paton is best 22 for us imo.


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Re: Injury update

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samuraisaint wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 12:54pm
saynta wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:51am
Yorkeys wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:48am Not good news but opportunity opens up for Byrnes, Clark, Paton and probably Sharman. Will settle a lot of speculation, maybe. Be interesting who plays the other half back spot.
Bytel, not Byrnes and Caminiti not Sharman. Clark is a given, but not sure about Paton.
Paton is best 22 for us imo.
Yes, I agree, but I am not sure the coach does.


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Re: Injury update

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Tough to get excited about a year already cruelled by injury.
Any hope of finals requires our best team available.

I think Ross should probably play the kids early and see who will step up


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Re: Injury update

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samuraisaint wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 12:51pm
saynta wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:04am https://www.saints.com.au/news/1281637/ ... -absentees

Faqk. 14 players on the injury list and we haven't fired a shot in anger
Has to be the surface at Moorabbin. Too hard and no give I reckon.
Absolute joke.

Simply put questions must be asked

Effectively 1/3 of our squad is injured before a ball is bounced

So yes is it the ground, are there training shoes giving the right type of support (this could apply to calf injuries). Are coaches trying to changes their running styles (eg too much up on the toes)

Whatever the causes, as others have said it is very hard to see us starting the season any better than 3-8 (happy to be wrong)


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Re: Injury update

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The Hammer and the Saints Shaman to surprise a few I'd say.


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Re: Injury update

Post: # 1996872Post CQ SAINT »

I think.a year of low expectations and unexpected surprises is in order.
Give the kids a development year.
Give Mackenzie Billings Coffield Jones and Ross, time and reserves matches.
Give Windhager, NVM, Phillipou, Owens, Van Es Caminiti and Adams game time in different positions and use Heath in the ruck, forward bench rotations. We have nothing to lose.
Mackenzie Billings Jones and Coffield should all be 200 game player who are injury prone.


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meher baba wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 12:20pm The news about Coffield is sad for him personally, but we can cover for him (as we did all through 2022). I reckon we can cover for Ross as well, and hopefully he isn't too far away.

It's a shame Membrey isn't going to be ready for Round 1, but I had never really believed it anyway after such recent knee surgery. Hopefully he's only a couple of week away as well, but you never really know with knees.

Windhager remains still the most important guy to get back for Sunday night, if at all possible. We went ok against the Bombers without the others, but I reckon he would make quite a difference against Freo.

I'm still looking forward to Sunday night: let's leave the weeping, wailing, gnashing of teeth and hair pulling until after the game. I'm predicting that we'll still be in it at 3/4 time, but that they'll probably run over us by a few goals at the end. That would be an excellent performance, given how many players we have out.
Members 4 to 5 weeks away I believe. Pretty sad start to what was heading to be a fairly promising season.


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Re: Injury update

Post: # 1996876Post nostalgicsaint »

Definitely not an ideal situation.

I wonder if our preseason has been thought about as a platform for 2024 and beyond

I.e. we're prepared to accept a higher injury count this year (obviously trying to avoid it regardless) but with the view to having a great baseline of fitness for future campaigns when we anticipate contending.


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Re: Injury update

Post: # 1996880Post samuraisaint »

I have just seen the updated injury list - as a member I would like the club to come out and explain how in the hell we can possibly have 5 plays listed as indefinite already?!?!
Why have players been sent off to have surgery in late summer who are now listed as TBC, and 5 more players listed as somewhere between 6-12 weeks away?!?
We didn't play finals so these guys should be fit and firing for round 1, not on the exercise bike in the gym.
Not happy at all!
Imagine what will happen when we have played a few games and natural attrition creeps in. We could be uncompetitive.
It must be either the surface of the ground, or training loads not being managed you would think. What else could it be put down to?


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Re: Injury update

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saynta wrote: Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:04am https://www.saints.com.au/news/1281637/ ... -absentees

Faqk. 14 players on the injury list and we haven't fired a shot in anger
7-8 who would be first picked imo, and 10 of the 14 injured are regular senior players


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