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Improved Accuracy

Post: # 2001985Post StPeter »

Only a small sample but I can't help noticing our improved shooting for goal this year.

So often in recent years have our behinds outnumbered our goals in matches.

This has been the reverse this year in all matches and our collective tally for the first four matches is 55 goals 34 behinds.

The figure of our opposition is 31 goals 41 behinds.

This differential is largely responsible for our healthy percentage.


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55 - 25 if you discount rushed behinds


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Post: # 2001994Post SaintWiki »

Better kickers added to the list is notable, but confidence is everything


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Don't have Max King wasting the extreme effort of the team by kicking easy shots for behinds.

There is no such thing as the yips.
Just bad football and bad footballers.


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Post: # 2002006Post axcellence »

More players changing their set shot routines.

Higgins pretty much kicks using around the corner now even for 45 degree or less shots.


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Post: # 2002009Post Saintmike65 »

No coincidence accuracy has improved..there is goal kicking practice after each drill EVERY training session!
They’ve been doing this religiously since the beginning of preseason training.


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Post: # 2002014Post Beno88 »

Our accuracy is currently at 61.8%, the best in the comp.

Last year it was 52.8%.

From 2017-2019 it didn't surpass 48.5%.

Vastly improved. So far.


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Post: # 2002021Post The_Dud »

Yep I was going to bring this up also, I think we've gone at well above 50% in every game.

Crazy how kicking straight helps you win games...


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Maybe they are all practicing with the Skills Beast kicking harness ?
Invented by Saints own Craig Davenport - spruked by Jason Dunstall - now he could confidently kick a goal or two.
Recent Saints e-mail to members is flogging them.


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Post: # 2002113Post Impatient Sainter »

Lets hope our current accuracy is contagious when King & Membrey return.


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Post: # 2002117Post Jacks Back »

You know you've just jinxed us St Peter, lol.


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loris wrote: Wed 12 Apr 2023 12:32pm Maybe they are all practicing with the Skills Beast kicking harness ?
Invented by Saints own Craig Davenport - spruked by Jason Dunstall - now he could confidently kick a goal or two.
Recent Saints e-mail to members is flogging them.
'Devonport' is his name


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ace wrote: Wed 12 Apr 2023 8:25am Don't have Max King wasting the extreme effort of the team by kicking easy shots for behinds.

There is no such thing as the yips.
Just bad football and bad footballers.
I would put Max in the Zebs for more than one game, IMHO.
Let him prove he can actually kick straight before letting him mix with the seniors.

I wouldn't mind if he joins his bro at the Suns when his contract ends. No big loss, he sulks too much, and misses too many. He won't be missed.
He's like Joe Daniher- very tall, but hit and miss, and just expects to get the ball due to their height. Take the #12 off him- he hasn't earnt it


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Post: # 2002136Post Saintmike65 »

You don’t trade away match winners..Max has only played under Ratten & Richardson…double & triple teamed due to slow ball movement.
He’s worked his ass off and will form a terrific combination with Caminiti, Owens & Phillipou!


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WellardSaint wrote: Thu 13 Apr 2023 2:34am
ace wrote: Wed 12 Apr 2023 8:25am Don't have Max King wasting the extreme effort of the team by kicking easy shots for behinds.

There is no such thing as the yips.
Just bad football and bad footballers.
I would put Max in the Zebs for more than one game, IMHO.
Let him prove he can actually kick straight before letting him mix with the seniors.

I wouldn't mind if he joins his bro at the Suns when his contract ends. No big loss, he sulks too much, and misses too many. He won't be missed.
He's like Joe Daniher- very tall, but hit and miss, and just expects to get the ball due to their height. Take the #12 off him- he hasn't earnt it
Aside from your perceived sulking do you have evidence?

Is smacking your hand after a missing a goal sulking?
Is being disappointed in missing a goal sulking?

Or is not fronting for the next time sulking?
I cannot recall anytime that Max has shirked the next contest!

I think this ‘sulking’ is just a show of how invested he is and his disappointment - when he stops going for the next one that’s when I will have an issue

Perhaps you need a Roo or BJ type response of blaming others to get you excited

If you think trading Max is the answer I think you need to look for a different ………,


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Post: # 2002141Post CQ SAINT »

Trading Max is an option. Trading players is now an integral part of recruiting. The successful clubs trade big names and lure high potential draft picks.
Max's start to his career has been very good.
So, he averages 2.4g.2b a game, got fairly good results from a 60 game career.
He has overcome lengthy rehabs and has been injured yet again.
Trading him isn't our of the question, the question is what is he worth.
2 FRDP all day.
But, I wouldn't be in a hurry to trade him just yet. He hasn't even hit top gear yet.


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WellardSaint wrote: Thu 13 Apr 2023 2:34am
ace wrote: Wed 12 Apr 2023 8:25am Don't have Max King wasting the extreme effort of the team by kicking easy shots for behinds.

There is no such thing as the yips.
Just bad football and bad footballers.
I would put Max in the Zebs for more than one game, IMHO.
Let him prove he can actually kick straight before letting him mix with the seniors.

I wouldn't mind if he joins his bro at the Suns when his contract ends. No big loss, he sulks too much, and misses too many. He won't be missed.
He's like Joe Daniher- very tall, but hit and miss, and just expects to get the ball due to their height. Take the #12 off him- he hasn't earnt it
What a ridiculous post.

The bloke kicked 50 goals last year in a dysfunctional forward setup.

How many St Kilda talls have kicked 50 in a season this century?

He literally finished 6th in the Coleman Medal race...
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StPeter wrote: Wed 12 Apr 2023 1:14am Only a small sample but I can't help noticing our improved shooting for goal this year.

So often in recent years have our behinds outnumbered our goals in matches.

This has been the reverse this year in all matches and our collective tally for the first four matches is 55 goals 34 behinds.

The figure of our opposition is 31 goals 41 behinds.

This differential is largely responsible for our healthy percentage.
The fact that we have won every game is largely responsible for our percentage. Accuracy is more due to our pressure than anything else.


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CQ SAINT wrote: Thu 13 Apr 2023 9:12am
But, I wouldn't be in a hurry to trade him just yet. He hasn't even hit top gear yet.
Gee, Sherlock, who would have guessed you would have drawn that conclusion? :shock:


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Post: # 2002161Post StPeter »

Trev from the Bush wrote: Thu 13 Apr 2023 12:08pm
StPeter wrote: Wed 12 Apr 2023 1:14am Only a small sample but I can't help noticing our improved shooting for goal this year.

So often in recent years have our behinds outnumbered our goals in matches.

This has been the reverse this year in all matches and our collective tally for the first four matches is 55 goals 34 behinds.

The figure of our opposition is 31 goals 41 behinds.

This differential is largely responsible for our healthy percentage.
The fact that we have won every game is largely responsible for our percentage. Accuracy is more due to our pressure than anything else.
Well of course winning every game helps percentage but if we kicked 44.45 instead of 55.34 and opps kicked 36.36 instead of 31.41 our % would be 122% instead of 160%, a big difference.

So my point was accuracy has given us such a HEATHY percentage.


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Trev from the Bush wrote: Thu 13 Apr 2023 12:10pm
CQ SAINT wrote: Thu 13 Apr 2023 9:12am
But, I wouldn't be in a hurry to trade him just yet. He hasn't even hit top gear yet.
Gee, Sherlock, who would have guessed you would have drawn that conclusion? :shock:
Have your pills d**khead.

Sorry that was rude. Im not even certain you are on pills.


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Post: # 2002168Post Scollop »

We will all need pills (or something) once we start losing a few

This place could implode


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Scollop wrote: Thu 13 Apr 2023 2:01pm We will all need pills (or something) once we start losing a few

This place could implode
Its a win/win position we find ourselves in.

I dont think we will lose too many, we may be beaten but I dont think the losses will be substantial and the gains across 22 games will be massive.


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Post: # 2002175Post IluvHarvey »

We win 4 games and now some want to trade Max King?

Where am I?


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